Anigwe set free

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BearBint
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(I tried posting under the original thread, but the site kept giving me a 403 error.)

http://www.fiba.com/world/u19women/2015/2107/USA-Egypt#|tab=boxscore_statistics

She seemed pretty nervous--erratic shooting and too many turnovers--but the 7 point and 10 rebounds in 15 minutes were nice.

The U.S. plays Argentina tomorrow about 7:30 a.m., PDT. There should be a YouTube link by then:

http://www.fiba.com/world/u19women/2015/2207/Argentina-USA
dfineguy
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I don't understand the meaning of this post.
BearBint
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dfineguy;842516251 said:

I don't understand the meaning of this post.


Kristine Anigwe, Cal recruit, is playing with the U.S.A. under-19 team in Russia:

http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?93491-FIBA-Under-19-%28w-Anigwe!%29-on-YouTube-this-morning

I was trying to post in the above thread, but the Bear Insider site wouldn't let me, so I started a new thread with information about her performance this morning.
dfineguy
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Well, if I understand it at all, I'm happy to have Christina back home with her new teammates now to acclimate to the college game and help recruit the '16s and '17s.

If she is ill, I'd rather have her recovering at her new home.
ncbears
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I was scared that "set free" meant she was given her release - and was going to some other school. Don't scare us like that!
Schroeder71
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I believe "set free" means that she was given the opportunity to play almost 15 minutes in a blowout of Egypt. I concur that Anigwe was anxious because she commited 5 turnovers, 2 personal fouls, shot 28% from the field and 50% on free throws (3-6). I also thought that she was kicked off of Team USA. GO BEARS!
stanfurdbites
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ncbears;842516267 said:

I was scared that "set free" meant she was given her release - and was going to some other school. Don't scare us like that!


The goal of the poster was to drive traffic to the thread with an ambiguous, potentially controversial title. No accident that these words were chosen.
CalWBBFan
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stanfurdbites;842516298 said:

The goal of the poster was to drive traffic to the thread with an ambiguous, potentially controversial title. No accident that these words were chosen.


Hyperbole much? When I saw the thread title I knew exactly what she meant. Not sure why folks were so confused. Glad she was finally able to play.:cheer
BearBint
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stanfurdbites;842516298 said:

The goal of the poster was to drive traffic to the thread with an ambiguous, potentially controversial title. No accident that these words were chosen.


WTF? No one is a mind reader and that includes you, sir or madam.

My goal, since I'm a long-time Cal WBB fan and have been following the international under-19 games in Russia, was to alert other Cal WBB fans that our much-anticipated new recruit, Kristine Anigwe, was finally given some real playing time: i.e., set free from the bench; her lack of minutes had been a topic of indignant commentary on the original thread. I was unable to post on the original thread, because the Bear Insider Web site kept (erroneously) giving me an error message, and so I started a new thread.

As Joanne Boyle used to tell her players, it ain't rocket science (nor a devious plot to drive traffic).
CalWBBFan
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BearBint;842516356 said:

WTF? No one is a mind reader and that includes you, sir or madam.

My goal, since I'm a long-time Cal WBB fan and have been following the international under-19 games in Russia, was to alert other Cal WBB fans that our much-anticipated new recruit, Kristine Anigwe, was finally given some real playing time: i.e., set free from the bench; her lack of minutes had been a topic of indignant commentary on the original thread. I was unable to post on the original thread, because the Bear Insider Web site kept (erroneously) giving me an error message, and so I started a new thread.

As Joanne Boyle used to tell her players, it ain't rocket science (nor a devious plot to drive traffic).
LOL, I'm glad you used the phrase "it ain't rocket science." I was tempted to throw that into my response too....too funny. :gobears:
califan
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I know, but way to mess with a kid. I too will be glad when she is here with us at Cal.

Btw, there has been much said about the issues with Staley and the conflict of interest it is causing, not just with KA but others and non SC fan bases. A lot of people have a problem with it.
BearBint
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califan;842516379 said:

Btw, there has been much said about the issues with Staley and the conflict of interest it is causing, not just with KA but others and non SC fan bases. A lot of people have a problem with it.


Good, I'm glad it's getting that much attention. I realize that college sports are a for-profit business, one way or another, but it's not nice to mess this much with the so-called product. (Or at least try to be more subtle about it, particularly if you have a legacy like Staley's to uphold.)
puget sound cal fan
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I, too, am hopeful enough of a tempest has developed from this situation to cause USA Basketball to seriously review the situation and enact measures to prevent it from occurring in future national team programs featuring amateur athletes. I don't think coaches like Staley appreciate how pursuing their own agendas potentially affects the players and the game. I don't want to take anything away from Canada's accomplishment, but the USA's talent strongly suggests a different outcome.
really
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puget sound cal fan;842516526 said:

I, too, am hopeful enough of a tempest has developed from this situation to cause USA Basketball to seriously review the situation and enact measures to prevent it from occurring in future national team programs featuring amateur athletes. I don't think coaches like Staley appreciate how pursuing their own agendas potentially affects the players and the game. I don't want to take anything away from Canada's accomplishment, but the USA's talent strongly suggests a different outcome.


Ok - now I'm really confused.... We know Staley's team didn't lose to Canada, right? That was the PanAm team, coached by the Iowa coach - who far as I know is not in contention for any recruits (and that team has no HS players).

It's more than a little ironic that this thread mentions the problems inherent in hyperbole and mind reading as well as using rocket science and devious plotting to explain things you don't get or agree with, when more simple explanations are available. (perhaps Stanfurdbites' insinuation was just a reminder that Occam prefers a close shave)

I would say this board is getting to be a bit of an echo-chamber on this topic, but it's actually spread beyond that -- when we're relying on other message boards as source material, it's not a good sign. ;-)

It's in the nature of fan bases to complain when things don't go the way they'd like; and the nature of these kind of all-star team selections is also messy, especially in the U.S. system. So people are always going to be unhappy (and these are the ones that usually make the most noise) and there's nothing wrong with having a place to voice opinions, and it's definitely fun to vent.

But these things can also tend to take on a life of their own, assumptions get built on top of other assumptions or gossip, messages passed back & forth like a game of telephone -- and it's easy for rationality to get lost. You also see a lot of bemoaning on these boards of players transferring, or of not playing enough team ball.... But seems to me the fan mentality that complains about playing time and wants to overhaul the system based on the evidence we have is part of the same problem.

If Anigwe's playing time were cut for some legitimate reason (or would be at Cal - plenty of people have said that Boyd or Gray should have been sat to teach a message, right?), I wouldn't want the first knee-jerk response by Kristine, parents or friends, etc. to be that the coaching staff must have some personal agenda -- doesn't help Kristine or the situation. But if Coach G (or anyone) were in Staley's position, even if she bent over backwards not to show any favoritism, what I'm pretty sure of is that somebody's still going to feel slighted and accuse her of something.... That seems like as simple an explanation as any.
ClayK
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As always, if you're not at practice every day, you can't really understand substitution patterns -- and none of us were.

Are there outside influences on coaches? Sure. Are there agendas, hidden or otherwise? Sure. But does anyone really think a USA Basketball coach would play a lineup that she didn't think had the best chance to win? (Now if two players are relatively equal, then the other stuff comes into play, but if Player A is clearly better than Player B every day in practice, Player A is getting the minutes.)
califan
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I guess thats why Staley likes to take selfies with Wilson, talk about SC with them and when someone asked her why not with the rest of the team she said "she's mine". Recruiting has taken on another level whether you think its expected or not, the situations can be avoided by NOT having D1 coaches coaching players who they can recruit or like Gray and Davis, can influence their transfer to your school!!!
ClayK
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califan;842516742 said:

I guess thats why Staley likes to take selfies with Wilson, talk about SC with them and when someone asked her why not with the rest of the team she said "she's mine". Recruiting has taken on another level whether you think its expected or not, the situations can be avoided by NOT having D1 coaches coaching players who they can recruit or like Gray and Davis, can influence their transfer to your school!!!


Solution? D2 coaches? High school coaches?
wvitbear
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I nominate clay, with Tom of St. Mary's and Kelly of Miramonte as your assistant coaches.
ClayK
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wvitbear;842516828 said:

I nominate clay, with Tom of St. Mary's and Kelly of Miramonte as your assistant coaches.


Thanks, but I think you have the order wrong. Kelly and Tom can co-coach, and I'll carry the balls and hand them the clipboard during timeouts.
califan
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Way to go Wv and I second it.

Easy solution if you think about it.
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