How to watch the election smartly and sanely


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I'm surprised they listed Nate Silver as a trustworthy source. He's a stooge.

I plan to go for a walk around 7pm EST when they spend an hour talking about Florida votes. This isn't my first rodeo.

More made up racist bull**** from the fascist right.

I'm thinking you are lacking in the necessary knowledge to discuss the topic intelligently. You only have memes and tweets from your fascist right "information" bubble. And you are either too dumb or too lazy to think for yourself.


That's what I'm thinking.

More made up racist bull**** from the fascist left.

You dims on the Right don't know very much. Nothing I said had any thing to do with race. And fascism is to the far right on the political spectrum. It's why you conservasheep are so comfortable with it. Liberals are commies, remember?

Projection is also a big feature of fascism. And it's a word most righties didn't understand, let alone use, before 2016.

AunBear89 said:

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You dims on the Right don't know very much. Nothing I said had any thing to do with race. And fascism is to the far right on the political spectrum. It's why you conservasheep are so comfortable with it. Liberals are commies, remember?

Projection is also a big feature of fascism. And it's a word most righties didn't understand, let alone use, before 2016.

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You're lost but that's nothing new.

During the 1920s and the early 1930s, fascism was not only looked on favorably by the left but recognized as having kindred ideas, agendas and assumptions.

Only after Hitler and Mussolini disgraced themselves, mainly by their brutal military aggressions in the 1930s, did the…

— Thomas Sowell Quotes (@ThomasSowell) January 20, 2024

My plan is to just stay calm. Keep an eye on Congressional races.

I won't be surprised to see Harris wins. No way - ZERO chance - D's are quietly accepting the recent news of Trump surging. I expect bigger numbers than currently projected because of turnout activities.

I won't be surprised if Trump wins - all the news shows the race moving in his direction,

I really hope we have quiet and acceptance, whichever way it goes.

Here you go. With simple concepts and pictures, to make it easier for MAGAts to understand:

Instead of a linear political spectrum, the graph could also be represented as a circle since there are commonalities between the far left and far right. The current Democratic Party is skewed closer the far left than towards the center, and therefore, closer to various types of extremist elements that can be found in ideologies such as fascism.

Nice word salad. Try an educated opinion, this time.


I know it sucks to be called fascist, so maybe we should call you Extreme Far Right Conservatives. With profligate Liberal spending.

The irony of all this is that even as a fascist, you're a member of Antifa.

"Day after: start sifting through the pearl clutching …"


She Wore a Pearl Necklace

bear2034 said:

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Instead of a linear political spectrum, the graph could also be represented as a circle since there are commonalities between the far left and far right. The current Democratic Party is skewed closer the far left than towards the center, and therefore, closer to various types of extremist elements that can be found in ideologies such as fascism.

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Yet Yogi and Matt Taibbi, who ally with tRumpists as useful idiots to get the Progressives in power and kill off Moderates, will tell you that as a result of the Vote for the Lesser of Two Evils Theory, if Kamala Harris wins, she will govern from Right Center…..and those guys are a lot smarter than you guys …..but dicks nonetheless.

bearister said:

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bear2034 said:

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Instead of a linear political spectrum, the graph could also be represented as a circle since there are commonalities between the far left and far right. The current Democratic Party is skewed closer the far left than towards the center, and therefore, closer to various types of extremist elements that can be found in ideologies such as fascism.

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Yet Yogi and Matt Taibbi, who ally with tRumpists as useful idiots to get the Progressives in power and kill off Moderates, will tell you that as a result of the Vote for the Lesser of Two Evils Theory, if Kamala Harris wins, she will govern from Right Center…..and those guys are a lot smarter than you guys …..but dicks nonetheless.

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Matt Taibbi is anti-Trump and I don't think Yogi ever said a Kamala Harris presidency would be a right-center White House.

Tuesdays are one of our SF walking days. We will be walking into the evening. I guess it will be too early in the evening to call unless it's a blowout. I'd be mildly surprised if there is some level of frustration if Trump wins.

bear2034 said:

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bearister said:

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bear2034 said:

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Instead of a linear political spectrum, the graph could also be represented as a circle since there are commonalities between the far left and far right. The current Democratic Party is skewed closer the far left than towards the center, and therefore, closer to various types of extremist elements that can be found in ideologies such as fascism.

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Yet Yogi and Matt Taibbi, who ally with tRumpists as useful idiots to get the Progressives in power and kill off Moderates, will tell you that as a result of the Vote for the Lesser of Two Evils Theory, if Kamala Harris wins, she will govern from Right Center…..and those guys are a lot smarter than you guys …..but dicks nonetheless.

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Matt Taibbi is anti-Trump and I don't think Yogi ever said a Kamala Harris presidency would be a right-center White House.

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Yes, when Taibbi was a legitimate journalist at the Rolling Stone he bashed tRump all the time. Now that he has tapped into the Joe Rogan market of angry maladjusted White men, he makes millions from Substack subscriptions feeding them Anti anti tRumper red meat. Like many former Bernie Bros. they join in all your anti Democratic arguments….but for their purpose, not yours.

"The next little thing about this vote-for-the-lesser-evil trick, of course and this is no secret to anyone anymore is that it drives all the "serious" candidates toward what is commonly referred to as the "moderate center," even if these serious candidates aren't, in fact, moderate or centrist in any meaningful sense and the so-called center moves further to the right with each election cycle. For nearly two decades now this process has been steadily advancing on the Democratic side, as liberals are trained to accept the idea that the national majority will never accept a true labor party, or any candidate perceived as "soft" on defense."
-Matt Taibbi

Matt Taibbi, Left-Wingers for Trump Remain Deeply Confused


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/matt-taibbi-why-republican-trump-left-wing.html

"Donald Trump has consistently attracted the support of a handful of left-wing activists and writers. Some of them were die-hard Bernie Sanders supporters who believed, much like the Weimar communists, that Trump would hasten the social crisis that would open the door for their revolution. A somewhat different faction on the left today believes electing Trump is a necessary price for punishing Joe Biden for his Zionism."

This voter chose Jill Stein, listen to their reason why 🎤 pic.twitter.com/UVC1w8XT5G

— Don Lemon (@donlemon) October 26, 2024

GoOskie said:

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Lock n Load. Keep your head on a swivel. Keep your loved ones safe.

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I moved from urban centers already following 9/11, where I lost 3 colleagues.
I'm ready for this! I can do this!

tequila4kapp said:

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My plan is to just stay calm. Keep an eye on Congressional races.

I won't be surprised to see Harris wins. No way - ZERO chance - D's are quietly accepting the recent news of Trump surging. I expect bigger numbers than currently projected because of turnout activities.

I won't be surprised if Trump wins - all the news shows the race moving in his direction,

I really hope we have quiet and acceptance, whichever way it goes.

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The sad thing is, Trump has shown people what is possible, so even if he swallows a ww2 era hand grenade, the next generation will follow his example.

American Democracy is no more.
It merely took someone as dastardly as Trump to reveal the weakness in the Constitution. It is merely parchment, and if you can get people, judges and a mob, to say January 6 was peaceful, it doesn't matter what was written on that parchment, does it?

Government only works if people submit to the rules. Add "anarchist" to Trump's accused labels.

Cal88 said:

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This voter chose Jill Stein, listen to their reason why 🎤 pic.twitter.com/UVC1w8XT5G

— Don Lemon (@donlemon) October 26, 2024

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Yeah, she said she wants the entire system to be uprooted.
Well, she's gonna get that!!


By the way, Don… see Ross Perot. A lot of people didn't understand how the electoral college process works back them, either.

concordtom said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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My plan is to just stay calm. Keep an eye on Congressional races.

I won't be surprised to see Harris wins. No way - ZERO chance - D's are quietly accepting the recent news of Trump surging. I expect bigger numbers than currently projected because of turnout activities.

I won't be surprised if Trump wins - all the news shows the race moving in his direction,

I really hope we have quiet and acceptance, whichever way it goes.

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The sad thing is, Trump has shown people what is possible, so even if he swallows a ww2 era hand grenade, the next generation will follow his example.

American Democracy is no more.
It merely took someone as dastardly as Trump to reveal the weakness in the Constitution. It is merely parchment, and if you can get people, judges and a mob, to say January 6 was peaceful, it doesn't matter what was written on that parchment, does it?

Government only works if people submit to the rules. Add "anarchist" to Trump's accused labels.

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Yah...it's just Trump.

He was the catalyst, you cannot deny that.
Others ("Russia Russia Russia") might suggest it was Putin, for propping him up on social media in 2016.

tequila4kapp said:
"I won't be surprised if Trump wins - all the news shows the race moving in his direction.."

…and every cable network wants to push that narrative and hopefully the end result. tRump is money in the bank for the political talkies. MSNBC probably secretly wants a tRump W so they can make bank from 24/7 All Pity Parties All the Time. What are they going to talk about if Harris wins?

Similarly, Fox News probably wants a Harris W because otherwise what are those lying sacks of sh@it Fox News "personalities" gonna have to lie about if tRump wins….other than to say he is doing a good job and that Putin and Musk didn't rig the Election?

concordtom said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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My plan is to just stay calm. Keep an eye on Congressional races.

I won't be surprised to see Harris wins. No way - ZERO chance - D's are quietly accepting the recent news of Trump surging. I expect bigger numbers than currently projected because of turnout activities.

I won't be surprised if Trump wins - all the news shows the race moving in his direction,

I really hope we have quiet and acceptance, whichever way it goes.

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The sad thing is, Trump has shown people what is possible, so even if he swallows a ww2 era hand grenade, the next generation will follow his example.

American Democracy is no more.
It merely took someone as dastardly as Trump to reveal the weakness in the Constitution. It is merely parchment, and if you can get people, judges and a mob, to say January 6 was peaceful, it doesn't matter what was written on that parchment, does it?

Government only works if people submit to the rules. Add "anarchist" to Trump's accused labels.

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I disagree. It is a Trump cult. Since 2016, Republicans have gotten destroyed in every election that didn't involve Trump. Win or lose in 2024, the fight for freedom, equality, and economic fairness continues.

History shows, in some countries and political situations, that can be a very loooooooong fight.

Nothing is guaranteed.