Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.

Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

Football is not politics. If you beg to differ go to OT.

Goobear said:

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Football is not politics. If you beg to differ go to OT.

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How can anyone possibly say that in the NIL era? EVERYTHING is politics. Period.

Head in the sand mentality.

falseintellect said:

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Goobear said:

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Football is not politics. If you beg to differ go to OT.

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How can anyone possibly say that in the NIL era? EVERYTHING is politics. Period.

Head in the sand mentality.

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They say it because they share his political beliefs and don't like seeing the negative reactions to it. They were expecting to be universally praised for this hire.

What's hilarious is we only know the politics of this FOOTBALL COACH because he went out of his way to publicize them. He inserted his politics into his job, not anyone else. Think of all the coaches out there and how many you know their political beliefs. Not many.

CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.

Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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Cal is supposed to be a place where people from all ideologies, religious beliefs and political affiliations can come together and have discussions. We then hope to educate students enough to make their own choices on the matter. It is Cal's job to expose people to all sides of the issue, not indoctrinate them with one particular vision of the matter. If you are a 4.2 GPA student attracted to Cal for its "liberal history" but refuse to play for a Trump supporter then you have missed the point. The idea that Cal ONLY supports ONE VIEW on things is a misconception we should fight rather than embrace.

Now, if he uses his position of authority to force his opinions on others or rewards players with playing time based on their ideologies we have a problem. That goes for any coach regardless of political affiliation. But the fact he supports Trump is 100% irrelevant to whether or not he will be a good Offensive Coordinator here.

There are plenty of legitimate red flags that you can point out such as a rough history at Auburn, poor recruiting, or being seen as abrasive to work with by recruits. Frankly bringing up his political affiliation as a main argument for or against his hiring weakens your argument. That is doubly true at a school with the free speech history that Cal is proud to be associated with.

falseintellect said:

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Goobear said:

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Football is not politics. If you beg to differ go to OT.

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How can anyone possibly say that in the NIL era? EVERYTHING is politics. Period.

Head in the sand mentality.

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Looks like head in the sand mentality is that kids with a 4.2 gpa are critical thinkers and therefore do not play for Trumpers as a critical thinker cannot possibly condone Trump views…this is OT content and this is all I will say…

MrGPAC said:

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CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.

Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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Cal is supposed to be a place where people from all ideologies, religious beliefs and political affiliations can come together and have discussions. We then hope to educate students enough to make their own choices on the matter. It is Cal's job to expose people to all sides of the issue, not indoctrinate them with one particular vision of the matter. If you are a 4.2 GPA student attracted to Cal for its "liberal history" but refuse to play for a Trump supporter then you have missed the point. The idea that Cal ONLY supports ONE VIEW on things is a misconception we should fight rather than embrace.

Now, if he uses his position of authority to force his opinions on others or rewards players with playing time based on their ideologies we have a problem. That goes for any coach regardless of political affiliation. But the fact he supports Trump is 100% irrelevant to whether or not he will be a good Offensive Coordinator here.

There are plenty of legitimate red flags that you can point out such as a rough history at Auburn, poor recruiting, or being seen as abrasive to work with by recruits. Frankly bringing up his political affiliation as a main argument for or against his hiring weakens your argument. That is doubly true at a school with the free speech history that Cal is proud to be associated with.

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+1. The posts here and on off-topic remind me that Cal graduates just as many idiots as any other school. And with some here, not just idiots, but severely damaged human beings as well.

CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.

Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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I will do the Growls board a favor do my part to send this thread to OT where it belongs by mentioning 56% of young men in the last election didn't vote for Wilie Brown's lover.

CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.
Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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How do you know there are no "Trumpers" - AKA: "Republicans" or "conservatives" - playing for Cal right now? Aaron Rodgers is a "Trumper". And I'm sure there are many more. The scholly limit is what? 135 (changes to 105 next year)? So ALL of them are progressives, or Democrats? I seriously doubt it.

MrGPAC said:

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CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.

Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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Cal is supposed to be a place where people from all ideologies, religious beliefs and political affiliations can come together and have discussions. We then hope to educate students enough to make their own choices on the matter. It is Cal's job to expose people to all sides of the issue, not indoctrinate them with one particular vision of the matter. If you are a 4.2 GPA student attracted to Cal for its "liberal history" but refuse to play for a Trump supporter then you have missed the point. The idea that Cal ONLY supports ONE VIEW on things is a misconception we should fight rather than embrace.

Now, if he uses his position of authority to force his opinions on others or rewards players with playing time based on their ideologies we have a problem. That goes for any coach regardless of political affiliation. But the fact he supports Trump is 100% irrelevant to whether or not he will be a good Offensive Coordinator here.

There are plenty of legitimate red flags that you can point out such as a rough history at Auburn, poor recruiting, or being seen as abrasive to work with by recruits. Frankly bringing up his political affiliation as a main argument for or against his hiring weakens your argument. That is doubly true at a school with the free speech history that Cal is proud to be associated with.

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MrGpac..well said!

Dear thread,

Welcome to the OT Forum!

Pittstop said:

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CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.
Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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How do you know there are no "Trumpers" - AKA: "Republicans" or "conservatives" - playing for Cal right now? Aaron Rodgers is a "Trumper". And I'm sure there are many more. The scholly limit is what? 135 (changes to 105 next year)? So ALL of them are progressives, or Democrats? I seriously doubt it.

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I don't think the typical Trumper takes ayuhyasca or goes to Egypt for inspiration. He's 100% NorCal, but, yeah, if you told me most of the team voted for trump it wouldn't surprise me. People's pigeonholing characterizations of voters are just lame cliches

CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.

Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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im a cal fan so you already know my politics

but if bryan harsin leads cal to an 11-1 regular season and a playoff loss im storming the capitol with him the next time there's a stolen election https://t.co/kPi6azYXko

— 🅱️EARS 🅱️Y 50 (@BearsBy50) December 9, 2024

Let's go!

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Anarchistbear said:

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Pittstop said:

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CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.
Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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How do you know there are no "Trumpers" - AKA: "Republicans" or "conservatives" - playing for Cal right now? Aaron Rodgers is a "Trumper". And I'm sure there are many more. The scholly limit is what? 135 (changes to 105 next year)? So ALL of them are progressives, or Democrats? I seriously doubt it.

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I don't think the typical Trumper takes ayuhyasca or goes to Egypt for inspiration. He's 100% NorCal, but, yeah, if you told me most of the team voted for trump it wouldn't surprise me. People's pigeonholing characterizations of voters are just lame cliches

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Probably Dykes, and Spavital, and Bloesch, and Gilbert, and many of our Texas recruits are more "typical Trumpers", given their long ties to Texas' Ultra conservative political culture, and obvious comfort with the Texas cultural environment. We never asked them about their political leanings, or for their political opinions. And you/we never felt compelled to "research" them. So I guess it's a "don't ask, don't tell" standard of acceptance, is that it?

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Guess you could say the same thing about folks from rural Oregon and Washington. Hint, hint. Basically the culture under Wilcox re: players is be interested in politics, but don't judge others. There a couple thigs on the internet about it you can hunt down. The coaches generally just stick to coaching. The HC always sets the culture, and the assistants get in line, or leave.

MrGPAC said:

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CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.

Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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Cal is supposed to be a place where people from all ideologies, religious beliefs and political affiliations can come together and have discussions. We then hope to educate students enough to make their own choices on the matter. It is Cal's job to expose people to all sides of the issue, not indoctrinate them with one particular vision of the matter. If you are a 4.2 GPA student attracted to Cal for its "liberal history" but refuse to play for a Trump supporter then you have missed the point. The idea that Cal ONLY supports ONE VIEW on things is a misconception we should fight rather than embrace.

Now, if he uses his position of authority to force his opinions on others or rewards players with playing time based on their ideologies we have a problem. That goes for any coach regardless of political affiliation. But the fact he supports Trump is 100% irrelevant to whether or not he will be a good Offensive Coordinator here.

There are plenty of legitimate red flags that you can point out such as a rough history at Auburn, poor recruiting, or being seen as abrasive to work with by recruits. Frankly bringing up his political affiliation as a main argument for or against his hiring weakens your argument. That is doubly true at a school with the free speech history that Cal is proud to be associated with.

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Comparing Registered Democrats to Registered Republicans amongst Faculty at elite American universities pic.twitter.com/4Vg3j74y5O

— The Rabbit Hole (@TheRabbitHole84) December 10, 2024

The purpose is supposed to be education and not indoctrination but unfortunately, I don't think that's happening in many elite universities including Cal. These schools supposedly support diversity, equity, and inclusion except when it comes to ideas, beliefs, and values.

Looks like we need Affirmative Action for Republicans.

bear2034 said:

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CNHTH said:

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Just like trumpers don't want to play at Cal…
Critically thinking kids with a 4.2 who also play sports and are attracted to Berkeley don't want to play for a trumper.

Which puts us in kind of a funky spot?
Don't cha know!

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Why would critically thinking kids disrupt a game to show support for a professor who was fired for harassment and stalking?

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They should have done this when Miami was coming back to give our defense time to rest.

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> Better than what's her face in the movie theater.

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whoa, nice find, thanks all, never woulda connected that pic with aoc.

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AOC GIF. I send weird political gifs to my SIL when we play Wordle and Connections each morning. Tons of Biden, Trump, AOC, Kamala gifs available.