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socaltownie
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Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.
bearister
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socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.

I think German Clubs got grandfathered in.

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Anarchistbear
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Hopefully this ends St Patrick's Day
BearGoggles
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socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.
Did you read the letter? I'm willing to be you did not. If so, please quote the part of the letter that bans ethnic clubs?
bearister
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Anarchistbear said:

Hopefully this ends St Patrick's Day

Not in your lifetime you Orangeman Mother f'er.



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Anarchistbear
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What's green, 2 miles long and has an ******* every 6 inches?

St Patrick's Day
bearister
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Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
“98 yards with my boys” Yeah, sure.
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socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.




This will help stop the indoctrination of our youth that every citizen in our country is racist and sexist. I'm happy with this despite your insistence to put a negative spin on it. You are still being programmed by MSM
concordtom
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socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.


All we have to do is wait and they'll piss so many people off that there will be massive protests, riots, and ************* attempts.
Ooops. That would be bad.
bear2034
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The Department will no longer tolerate the overt and covert racial discrimination that has become widespread in this Nation's educational institutions. The law is clear: treating students differently on the basis of race to achieve nebulous goals such as diversity, racial balancing, social justice, or equity is illegal under controlling Supreme Court precedent.

MLK Jr. would be proud.
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concordtom said:

socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.


All we have to do is wait and they'll piss so many people off that there will be massive protests, riots, and ************* attempts.
Ooops. That would be bad.
Except these Trump admin policy changes enjoy widespread support. Most people don't like discrimination based on race (including so called affirmative action). And a firm plurality (if not majority) reject the concept of intersectional grievance that underpins so much of DEI.

If there are protests, it will be among the fringe left or Antifa types and perhaps those in out of touch academia.

And for the record, the policy does not prevent ethnic, religious, or race based clubs.
socaltownie
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BearGoggles said:

socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.
Did you read the letter? I'm willing to be you did not. If so, please quote the part of the letter that bans ethnic clubs?
"Federal law thus prohibits covered entities from using race in decisions pertaining to admissions, hiring, promotion, compensation, financial aid, scholarships, prizes, administrative support, discipline, housing, graduation ceremonies, and all other aspects of student, academic, and campus life." (my emphasis)

Yes it does. I love you Maga people. You don't really believe this **** but will defend it to the ends of the earth.
bear2034
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socaltownie said:

BearGoggles said:

socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.
Did you read the letter? I'm willing to be you did not. If so, please quote the part of the letter that bans ethnic clubs?
"Federal law thus prohibits covered entities from using race in decisions pertaining to admissions, hiring, promotion, compensation, financial aid, scholarships, prizes, administrative support, discipline, housing, graduation ceremonies, and all other aspects of student, academic, and campus life." (my emphasis)

Yes it does. I love you Maga people. You don't really believe this **** but will defend it to the ends of the earth.

No segregated dorms or graduations anymore? Does this mean the LGBTQ+ clubs must allow heterosexuals to participate?
socaltownie
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bear2034 said:

socaltownie said:

BearGoggles said:

socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.
Did you read the letter? I'm willing to be you did not. If so, please quote the part of the letter that bans ethnic clubs?
"Federal law thus prohibits covered entities from using race in decisions pertaining to admissions, hiring, promotion, compensation, financial aid, scholarships, prizes, administrative support, discipline, housing, graduation ceremonies, and all other aspects of student, academic, and campus life." (my emphasis)

Yes it does. I love you Maga people. You don't really believe this **** but will defend it to the ends of the earth.

No segregated dorms or graduations anymore? Does this mean the LGBTQ+ clubs must allow heterosexuals to participate?
LOL. You do realize these dorms are NOT segregated. Rather members of the decidedly unrepresented groups (California school age population of aaftican americans about 9% - 3% at UCB) can opt to go to a floor where they are likely to find other AA. This clearly would prohibit university funds being expended to promote/facilitate that. Ditto ASUC funds to any of the ethnic clubs.

You really can't read from your orange lenses. Thank goodness I expect a TRO by Tuesday night.
BearGoggles
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socaltownie said:

BearGoggles said:

socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.
Did you read the letter? I'm willing to be you did not. If so, please quote the part of the letter that bans ethnic clubs?
"Federal law thus prohibits covered entities from using race in decisions pertaining to admissions, hiring, promotion, compensation, financial aid, scholarships, prizes, administrative support, discipline, housing, graduation ceremonies, and all other aspects of student, academic, and campus life." (my emphasis)

Yes it does. I love you Maga people. You don't really believe this **** but will defend it to the ends of the earth.
You're wrong. There is nothing in the order that makes ethnic clubs "illegal".

Notably, you omitted the sentence before the quote above which states:

"If an educational institution treats a person of one race differently than it treats another person because of that person's race, the educational institution violates the law."

The order doesn't cover students or their right to associate. Students (which are not educational institutions or covered entities) can associate and organize however they want. That is part of the First Amendment.

What the schools cannot do is give special benefits/preferences to one student group over the other based on race or create Jim Crow-esq rules that have that effect. This is settled law.
socaltownie
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It can't give them office space. Can't likely spend money announcing them. Etc. Etc.
bear2034
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socaltownie said:

bear2034 said:

socaltownie said:

BearGoggles said:

socaltownie said:

Department of Education letter essentially making ethnic clubs and affinity housing illegal. 14 days to comply. I hope all of you MAGA idiots stand up to support.
Did you read the letter? I'm willing to be you did not. If so, please quote the part of the letter that bans ethnic clubs?
"Federal law thus prohibits covered entities from using race in decisions pertaining to admissions, hiring, promotion, compensation, financial aid, scholarships, prizes, administrative support, discipline, housing, graduation ceremonies, and all other aspects of student, academic, and campus life." (my emphasis)

Yes it does. I love you Maga people. You don't really believe this **** but will defend it to the ends of the earth.

No segregated dorms or graduations anymore? Does this mean the LGBTQ+ clubs must allow heterosexuals to participate?
LOL. You do realize these dorms are NOT segregated. Rather members of the decidedly unrepresented groups (California school age population of aaftican americans about 9% - 3% at UCB) can opt to go to a floor where they are likely to find other AA. This clearly would prohibit university funds being expended to promote/facilitate that. Ditto ASUC funds to any of the ethnic clubs.

You really can't read from your orange lenses. Thank goodness I expect a TRO by Tuesday night.

The letter applies to all schools across the country receiving federal funds and not just UC. And yes, there are segregated dorms.

dear-colleague-letter-sffa-v-harvard-109506.pdf
bear2034
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I'm sorry, not sorry this is happening to you.
BearGoggles
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socaltownie said:

It can't give them office space. Can't likely spend money announcing them. Etc. Etc.
More falsehoods. You have no understanding of the legalities, yet you spout this nonsense.

It can give a black students association, La Raza or similar type of organization office space, publicity, or funds as long as those are made available to all student organizations on an equal basis, without consideration of race, religion, or other similar factors.

Either your are knowingly dissembling or really uninformed.
Big C
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The first rule of high school ethnic clubs is that they are all open to people of any ethnicity.
socaltownie
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That isnt what the letter says.
chazzed
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The cruelty is the point.

BearGoggles
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socaltownie said:

That isnt what the letter says.
You don't understand the letter or its legal meaning. The letter says nothing about student groups. You don't understand that the first amendment guarantees freedom of association irrespective of any Trump guidance and/or congressional law.

According to the link below, there are currently 49 student groups with the word "Black" in their name. I will bet you $1,000 (donated to Cal football NIL) that at least one of those groups survives the adoption of Trump's guidance and implementation of any subsequent Trump policies.

https://callink.berkeley.edu/Organizations?query=black

As others have pointed out:

  • The student groups themselves will be subject to anti-discrimination rules/regulations. That was already the case.
  • The guidance does potentially impact other UC policies, including UC housing opportunities that are set aside for only one race/religion/etc. and holding events (e.g., special graduation ceremonies) that are for only one race/ethnic group. That is a different issue.

Do you accept my bet (again, donated to Cal football NIL)?
AunBear89
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MAGA voted for this.

"Grandma lost her life's savings? Sucks to be her - but at least we put an an end to wokeness! MAGA!"
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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