in the always free (?) guardian..
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/12/washington-post-fires-staff
signed, reluctantly cancelled our WP subscription after ahole bought it.

lede, written by WP's former "public editor"..

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Not so long ago it's been less than a decade the New York Times and the Washington Post were almost neck and neck in the race for readers, reputation and scoops. The Times was always bigger, but the two were somewhat comparable.

These days, that's far from reality. The Post has been declining in influence, newsroom staff and financial health losing at least $100m a year while the Times is on an astonishing upward trajectory, with operating profit approaching $200m annually.

The Times boasts about 13 million digital subscribers compared to the Post's roughly 2 million. It now has newsroom staff around the world of well over 2,000, while the Post has slipped to only 400, after reaching a height of more than 1,000.

There's no question now of who won the war..

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The real story of the Post is that they were kept afloat by anti-Trump liberals. When Bezos went away from giving them the propaganda they wanted, they flocked to the New York Times en masse to get their lies elsewhere.

Aunburdened said:

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The real story of the Post is that they were kept afloat by anti-Trump liberals. When Bezos went away from giving them the propaganda they wanted, they flocked to the New York Times en masse to get their lies elsewhere.

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Sounds like a bad business decision by Bezos.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Aunburdened said:

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The real story of the Post is that they were kept afloat by anti-Trump liberals. When Bezos went away from giving them the propaganda they wanted, they flocked to the New York Times en masse to get their lies elsewhere.

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Sounds like a bad business decision by Bezos.

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Oligarchs don't purchase media for the pro forma numbers.

Why pay to read lies, half-truths, and left-wing propaganda?

Aunburdened said:

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The real story of the Post is that they were kept afloat by anti-Trump liberals. When Bezos went away from giving them the propaganda they wanted, they flocked to the New York Times en masse to get their lies elsewhere.

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What news or media sources do you recommend as telling the truth?
Where do you recommend people get "informed" at?

PAC-10-BEAR said:

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Why pay to read lies, half-truths, and left-wing propaganda?

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Right.

Why bother to pay when you can get all of your right-wing talking points and investment advice on BITCOIN from super CREDIBLE anonymous accounts on Twitter for FREE!

DiabloWags said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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Why pay to read lies, half-truths, and left-wing propaganda?

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Right.

Why bother to pay when you can get all of your right-wing talking points and investment advice on BITCOIN from super CREDIBLE anonymous accounts on Twitter for FREE!

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I wish I was on Twitter much earlier so that I could have bought it at a much lower price!

DiabloWags said:

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Right.

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between the lines i'm sensing a lil bit of sarcasm, tnx DW,

concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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The real story of the Post is that they were kept afloat by anti-Trump liberals. When Bezos went away from giving them the propaganda they wanted, they flocked to the New York Times en masse to get their lies elsewhere.

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What news or media sources do you recommend as telling the truth?
Where do you recommend people get "informed" at?

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Truth is in short supply in the media and hard to find. It isn't about news organizations anymore, as no organization can be trusted 100% to put truth first. You have to pick which journalists are willing to question their own biases and follow the facts instead of their personal politics.

Very few of those these days.

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DiabloWags said:

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Right.

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between the lines i'm sensing a lil bit of sarcasm, tnx DW,

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Just think about this for a moment . . .
Our great nation's capital doesn't have a single newspaper in it.

"It finally lost the one major newspaper left - - - and during the Trump Administration no less, during a time of the easy abuse of standards and traditions, of inching up to and then inching over the law, in a pattern that promises not to get better but worse - - - is more than a Jeffersonian nightmare, it is a kind of sin.

The kind history doesn't easily ignore."

Peggy Noonan Columns, pieces and posts

DiabloWags said:

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smh said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Right.

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between the lines i'm sensing a lil bit of sarcasm, tnx DW,

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Just think about this for a moment . . .
Our great nation's capital doesn't have a single newspaper in it.

"It finally lost the one major newspaper left - - - and during the Trump Administration no less, during a time of the easy abuse of standards and traditions, of inching up to and then inching over the law, in a pattern that promises not to get better but worse - - - is more than a Jeffersonian nightmare, it is a kind of sin.

The kind history doesn't easily ignore."

Peggy Noonan Columns, pieces and posts

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Everyone in that picture is mentally unstable.

Your idol, Reagan, was also a former Democrat. But unlike Trump, Elon, RFK Jr, and Tulsi, he didn't have the opportunity to own Bitcoin!

DiabloWags said:

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Everyone in that picture is mentally unstable.

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right, tnx.

smh said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Everyone in that picture is mentally unstable.

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right, tnx.

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E. Jean Carroll spends her spare time in the forest painting trees & rocks…

I don't know how or why anyone would doubt this woman's recollection of events… 🤷🏼‍♀️🙄
I mean…🤦🏼‍♀️🤡🌎 pic.twitter.com/dQ5lobxrcl

— Emily (@EmilyM0703) May 9, 2023

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smh said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Everyone in that picture is mentally unstable.

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right, tnx.

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E. Jean Carroll spends her spare time in the forest painting trees & rocks…

I don't know how or why anyone would doubt this woman's recollection of events… 🤷🏼‍♀️🙄
I mean…🤦🏼‍♀️🤡🌎 pic.twitter.com/dQ5lobxrcl

— Emily (@EmilyM0703) May 9, 2023

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Trump is an occasional artist too and has sold his work, yet you don't dispute his recollection of events.

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concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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The real story of the Post is that they were kept afloat by anti-Trump liberals. When Bezos went away from giving them the propaganda they wanted, they flocked to the New York Times en masse to get their lies elsewhere.

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What news or media sources do you recommend as telling the truth?
Where do you recommend people get "informed" at?

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Truth is in short supply in the media and hard to find. It isn't about news organizations anymore, as no organization can be trusted 100% to put truth first. You have to pick which journalists are willing to question their own biases and follow the facts instead of their personal politics.

Very few of those these days.

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What news or media sources which journalists do you recommend as telling the truth?
Where do you recommend people get "informed" at?

concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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The real story of the Post is that they were kept afloat by anti-Trump liberals. When Bezos went away from giving them the propaganda they wanted, they flocked to the New York Times en masse to get their lies elsewhere.

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What news or media sources do you recommend as telling the truth?
Where do you recommend people get "informed" at?

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Truth is in short supply in the media and hard to find. It isn't about news organizations anymore, as no organization can be trusted 100% to put truth first. You have to pick which journalists are willing to question their own biases and follow the facts instead of their personal politics.

Very few of those these days.

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What news or media sources which journalists do you recommend as telling the truth?
Where do you recommend people get "informed" at?

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You wouldn't like the journalists I follow. They tell truths you don't want to read.

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concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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The real story of the Post is that they were kept afloat by anti-Trump liberals. When Bezos went away from giving them the propaganda they wanted, they flocked to the New York Times en masse to get their lies elsewhere.

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What news or media sources do you recommend as telling the truth?
Where do you recommend people get "informed" at?

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Truth is in short supply in the media and hard to find. It isn't about news organizations anymore, as no organization can be trusted 100% to put truth first. You have to pick which journalists are willing to question their own biases and follow the facts instead of their personal politics.

Very few of those these days.

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What news or media sources which journalists do you recommend as telling the truth?
Where do you recommend people get "informed" at?

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You wouldn't like the journalists I follow. They tell truths you don't want to read.

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Print media news is dead, and talking about The NY Times circulation vs Washington Post seems like a useless exercise. Print advertising is dying. Consumer confidence in the print media is shaky at best. Conservatives went after mainstream media, then liberals. Most people on the left I know blame the general legacy media's collusion with Democratic political elites to hide Joe Biden's obviously declining medical condition as the primary reason we all have three more years of Trump (a view I concur with).

The digital takeover for the past decade accounts for much of where people read their newspapers now typically on a paid subscription basis, and the legacy outlets still face a pattern of distrust in the accuracy of information and still are losing readers. There is a perceived lack of value for traditional media compared to "free" social media. Options of choosing when and how to consume news abound, with users more likely to read blogs, social newsfeeds, or aggregate news sites than newspapers or newspaper blogs. There is specialization: tech blogs. food blogs, music blogs, film blogs, political blogs and yes, even sports blogs (and even then, golf blogs, tennis blogs, water polo blogs, and you get the picture). Who really needs the a legacy newspaper, even in a digital format? So much to read that is fast, free, and unfiltered. Online is clean and convenient, immediate and with no paper to throw away, etc. There is some irony when I surf my news aggregator that there is some journalistic work that originated in a newspaper, but that doesn't really save any newspaper jobs or enhance shareholder value does it? Basically the self righteous at the Post wanted a savior to subsidize their failing newspaper and when the savior decided to get an editor in to remove the red ink, they are now horrified. The NYT at least still makes money though it too had layoffs, and it is a questionable investment (low profits to revenue ratios), and needs to shutter its contracting print operations that are cratering cash. It just seems to be a slow, painful death for legacy print companies.

DiabloWags said:

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smh said:

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between the lines i'm sensing a lil bit of sarcasm, tnx DW,

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Just think about this for a moment . . .
Our great nation's capital doesn't have a single newspaper in it.

"It finally lost the one major newspaper left - - - and during the Trump Administration no less, during a time of the easy abuse of standards and traditions, of inching up to and then inching over the law, in a pattern that promises not to get better but worse - - - is more than a Jeffersonian nightmare, it is a kind of sin.

The kind history doesn't easily ignore."

Peggy Noonan Columns, pieces and posts

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As much as I like Peggy, she is living in the past. Sorta like the types that bemoan paying college players as ruinng college sports. Maybe they are somewhat right, but that ship sailed (or whatever metaphor you want to use).