You had a thread removed a few days ago for posting conspiracy theories about Melania and her immigration status. This one should be removed also.

Thanks for the article on her meager workload as first lady. Doesn't seem like she enjoys being a First Lady.

"In July alone, she skipped three major events in as many weeks, bringing fresh attention to her status as one of the least-active first ladies in the country's modern history."

Seems like her few public appearances were to promote her documentary.

I dont think historians will be kind to her.

You would criticize her either way

BearlySane88 said:

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You would criticize her either way

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Without checking with Google ....can you name any charitable causes that she has been leading the way on?

I can't.

DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You would criticize her either way

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Without checking with Google ....can you name any charitable causes that she has been leading the way on?

I can't.

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Of course you can't because you only pay attention to negative things.

Foster children, Revenge porn, children's safety online, etc.

There is zero requirement for a spouse of any politician to appear publicly, correct?
I could care less to see her publicly. In fact, it's better if she just hides - I don't want to see her.

That said, I totally believe that melania was an illegal alien working in USA until she married Donald who then used chain migration to bring her parents to USA as citizens.

I believe this is a matter of record, facts covered up by the family. Unlike Obama, who released his birth certificate backed up by Honolulu News papers announcing his birth at the time, I do not believe that Melania has any actual evidence that proves she was working in USA legally.

The height of hypocrisy.

BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You would criticize her either way

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Without checking with Google ....can you name any charitable causes that she has been leading the way on?

I can't.

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Of course you can't because you only pay attention to negative things.

Foster children, Revenge porn, children's safety online, etc.

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Cool story.

concordtom said:

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There is zero requirement for a spouse of any politician to appear publicly, correct?
I could care less to see her publicly. In fact, it's better if she just hides - I don't want to see her.

That said, I totally believe that melania was an illegal alien working in USA until she married Donald who then used chain migration to bring her parents to USA as citizens.

I believe this is a matter of record, facts covered up by the family. Unlike Obama, who released his birth certificate backed up by Honolulu News papers announcing his birth at the time, I do not believe that Melania has any actual evidence that proves she was working in USA legally.

The height of hypocrisy.

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This is blatant misinformation that should be removed from this board.

DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You would criticize her either way

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Without checking with Google ....can you name any charitable causes that she has been leading the way on?

I can't.

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Of course you can't because you only pay attention to negative things.

Foster children, Revenge porn, children's safety online, etc.

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Cool story.

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Weird response since you asked, I answered. Are you not a fan of the causes she chose?

BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You would criticize her either way

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Without checking with Google ....can you name any charitable causes that she has been leading the way on?

I can't.

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Of course you can't because you only pay attention to negative things.

Foster children, Revenge porn, children's safety online, etc.

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Cool story.

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Weird response since you asked, I answered. Are you not a fan of the causes she chose?

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Not weird at all.
Entirely appropriate given your highly erroneous claim.

BearlySane88 said:

"Of course you can't because you only pay attention to negative things."

DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You would criticize her either way

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Without checking with Google ....can you name any charitable causes that she has been leading the way on?

I can't.

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Of course you can't because you only pay attention to negative things.

Foster children, Revenge porn, children's safety online, etc.

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Cool story.

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Weird response since you asked, I answered. Are you not a fan of the causes she chose?

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Not weird at all.
Entirely appropriate given your highly erroneous claim.

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She's not supporting those causes?

Let's see what copilot says on the matter:

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The claim that Melania Trump worked illegally in the U.S. before marrying Donald Trump hinges on a contested timeline of her visa status and modeling work in 1996. Here's the evidence on both sides:

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Evidence supporting the claim (she worked illegally)

Associated Press documents: AP obtained ledgers and contracts from a New York modeling agency showing Melania (then Melanija Knaus) was paid about $20,000 for 10 modeling jobs between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, 1996.
Visa status at the time: She reportedly entered the U.S. on a B1/B2 visitor visa in August 1996, which allows travel and jobsearching but not paid employment.
Work visa date: Her H1B work visa is documented as being issued on Oct. 18, 1996, after those paid assignments.
Interpretation: If the AP records are accurate, those jobs occurred while she lacked legal work authorization, which would constitute unauthorized employment.


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Evidence rejecting the claim (she worked legally)

Lawyer's statement: Melania's attorney has said she complied fully with immigration law, asserting she obtained an H1B visa in October 1996 and worked legally thereafter.
Former agent's account: Paolo Zampolli, the modeling agent who sponsored her move, claimed he secured her work visa before she began professional modeling in the U.S. and denied she worked unlawfully.
No official violation found: There has been no court ruling or government finding that she violated immigration law. The dispute remains based on conflicting documents and statements.


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Key insight

The strongest evidence of unauthorized work is the AP's contemporaneous ledgers, which multiple outlets authenticated.
The strongest rebuttal is the absence of official immigration violations and her lawyer's insistence that she followed the law.
Ultimately, the record is contested and unresolved: no definitive proof has been released by U.S. immigration authorities to settle the timeline.


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Would you like me to lay out a timeline of Melania's visa history (visitor visa, H1B, EB1 green card, naturalization) so you can see how her immigration path unfolded step by step?

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Like I said, there is evidence to support that she worked illegally. Her word, her lawyers word, is not believable to me. And the lack of prosecution does not provide evidence that she didn't exist in violation of the law.

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Let's see what copilot says on the matter:

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The claim that Melania Trump worked illegally in the U.S. before marrying Donald Trump hinges on a contested timeline of her visa status and modeling work in 1996. Here's the evidence on both sides:

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Evidence supporting the claim (she worked illegally)

Associated Press documents: AP obtained ledgers and contracts from a New York modeling agency showing Melania (then Melanija Knaus) was paid about $20,000 for 10 modeling jobs between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, 1996.
Visa status at the time: She reportedly entered the U.S. on a B1/B2 visitor visa in August 1996, which allows travel and jobsearching but not paid employment.
Work visa date: Her H1B work visa is documented as being issued on Oct. 18, 1996, after those paid assignments.
Interpretation: If the AP records are accurate, those jobs occurred while she lacked legal work authorization, which would constitute unauthorized employment.


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Evidence rejecting the claim (she worked legally)

Lawyer's statement: Melania's attorney has said she complied fully with immigration law, asserting she obtained an H1B visa in October 1996 and worked legally thereafter.
Former agent's account: Paolo Zampolli, the modeling agent who sponsored her move, claimed he secured her work visa before she began professional modeling in the U.S. and denied she worked unlawfully.
No official violation found: There has been no court ruling or government finding that she violated immigration law. The dispute remains based on conflicting documents and statements.


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Key insight

The strongest evidence of unauthorized work is the AP's contemporaneous ledgers, which multiple outlets authenticated.
The strongest rebuttal is the absence of official immigration violations and her lawyer's insistence that she followed the law.
Ultimately, the record is contested and unresolved: no definitive proof has been released by U.S. immigration authorities to settle the timeline.


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Would you like me to lay out a timeline of Melania's visa history (visitor visa, H1B, EB1 green card, naturalization) so you can see how her immigration path unfolded step by step?

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Like I said, there is evidence to support that she worked illegally. Her word, her lawyers word, is not believable to me. And the lack of prosecution does not provide evidence that she didn't exist in violation of the law.

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Ridiculous claims that have no basis in fact. More misinformation that should be removed from the board.

BearlySane88 said:

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concordtom said:

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Let's see what copilot says on the matter:

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The claim that Melania Trump worked illegally in the U.S. before marrying Donald Trump hinges on a contested timeline of her visa status and modeling work in 1996. Here's the evidence on both sides:

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Evidence supporting the claim (she worked illegally)

Associated Press documents: AP obtained ledgers and contracts from a New York modeling agency showing Melania (then Melanija Knaus) was paid about $20,000 for 10 modeling jobs between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, 1996.
Visa status at the time: She reportedly entered the U.S. on a B1/B2 visitor visa in August 1996, which allows travel and jobsearching but not paid employment.
Work visa date: Her H1B work visa is documented as being issued on Oct. 18, 1996, after those paid assignments.
Interpretation: If the AP records are accurate, those jobs occurred while she lacked legal work authorization, which would constitute unauthorized employment.


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Evidence rejecting the claim (she worked legally)

Lawyer's statement: Melania's attorney has said she complied fully with immigration law, asserting she obtained an H1B visa in October 1996 and worked legally thereafter.
Former agent's account: Paolo Zampolli, the modeling agent who sponsored her move, claimed he secured her work visa before she began professional modeling in the U.S. and denied she worked unlawfully.
No official violation found: There has been no court ruling or government finding that she violated immigration law. The dispute remains based on conflicting documents and statements.


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Key insight

The strongest evidence of unauthorized work is the AP's contemporaneous ledgers, which multiple outlets authenticated.
The strongest rebuttal is the absence of official immigration violations and her lawyer's insistence that she followed the law.
Ultimately, the record is contested and unresolved: no definitive proof has been released by U.S. immigration authorities to settle the timeline.


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Would you like me to lay out a timeline of Melania's visa history (visitor visa, H1B, EB1 green card, naturalization) so you can see how her immigration path unfolded step by step?

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Like I said, there is evidence to support that she worked illegally. Her word, her lawyers word, is not believable to me. And the lack of prosecution does not provide evidence that she didn't exist in violation of the law.

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Ridiculous claims that have no basis in fact. More misinformation that should be removed from the board.

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Would you like the links to the AP news story? Would you like to take it up with the investigative journalists that release that?


https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-travel-immigration-migration-election-2020-37dc7aef0ce44077930b7436be7bfd0d



Just because you and I disagree on who we're going to believe doesn't mean the exchange of evidence and opinions should be deleted. This has been widely discussed by many outlets.

I suppose one way to find out as if Melania agreed to strap down to a lie detector test. Do you think she would do that?

It's also been widely discussed as blatantly false and a hit job, like the Obama birth certificate situation.

Would you care to comment on the assertion that Melania and Donald used his concept of chain migration to bring her parents to the United States?

Have fun with that one, too.
Since I don't really like communicating back-and-forth with you, I'm going to try and excuse myself here.
I'll let you have the last word on why this is rubbish and any discussion of it is ferbotten (censorship).

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I'll let you have the last word on why this is rubbish and any discussion of it is ferbotten (censorship).

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Same reason I'd call out someone posting that Obama nonsense from years back.

I prefer Margo "Faux Melania" Martin

This is it! Nice work CT

Heck no, this is totally factual like that story.

Say no to censorship!

Vote Blue and Welcome Back Wags

There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

SBGold said:

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Heck no, this is totally factual like that story.

Say no to censorship!

Vote Blue and Welcome Back Wags

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Your post was removed, it wasn't factual.

And that's insane given what the right posts here.

Shame shame shame

VOTE BLUE and VOTE GAVIN

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And that's insane given what the right posts here.

Shame shame shame

VOTE BLUE and VOTE GAVIN

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Examples?

Please get your misinformation under control

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There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

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You are correct.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks in the US, documents show | Fox News

DiabloWags said:

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dajo9 said:

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There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

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You are correct.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks in the US, documents show | Fox News

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"these documents, which have not been verified, do not reflect our records including corresponding passport stamps."

Don't you think we would have this verified in the last 10 years if it were true?

DiabloWags said:

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dajo9 said:

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There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

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You are correct.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks in the US, documents show | Fox News

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Holy smokes. Based on what you just said, a model had a work visa where she was allowed to look for work but not actually work and in a one month period took a few modeling jobs? ZOMG! Lock her up! Better yet, burn her! This is the most ridiculous witch hunt.

By the way, it is not hypocritical to take advantage of unenforced laws or things that are legal, even if you disagree with them. Enforcing these laws or making these things illegal later is not hypocritical.

It is lame to hide money in monopoly. However, if I am playing with my brothers who hide money, I would hide money too. I would, at the same time, propose and want to play future games where hiding money is not allowed.

You do know ICE is crushing men, women and children for much less. So yes, it's a big deal

Vote Blue and Vote Gavin

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You do know ICE is crushing men, women and children for much less. So yes, it's a big deal

Vote Blue and Vote Gavin

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For much less? Proof of this?

oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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dajo9 said:

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There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

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You are correct.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks in the US, documents show | Fox News

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Holy smokes. Based on what you just said, a model had a work visa where she was allowed to look for work but not actually work and in a one month period took a few modeling jobs? ZOMG! Lock her up! Better yet, burn her! This is the most ridiculous witch hunt.

By the way, it is not hypocritical to take advantage of unenforced laws or things that are legal, even if you disagree with them. Enforcing these laws or making these things illegal later is not hypocritical.

It is lame to hide money in monopoly. However, if I am playing with my brothers who hide money, I would hide money too. I would, at the same time, propose and want to play future games where hiding money is not allowed.

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Sorry, I don't have time for word salads and hypotheticals.
Kind of like there is some "proof" of Covid coming from a lab in Wuhan.

DiabloWags said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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dajo9 said:

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There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

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You are correct.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks in the US, documents show | Fox News

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Holy smokes. Based on what you just said, a model had a work visa where she was allowed to look for work but not actually work and in a one month period took a few modeling jobs? ZOMG! Lock her up! Better yet, burn her! This is the most ridiculous witch hunt.

By the way, it is not hypocritical to take advantage of unenforced laws or things that are legal, even if you disagree with them. Enforcing these laws or making these things illegal later is not hypocritical.

It is lame to hide money in monopoly. However, if I am playing with my brothers who hide money, I would hide money too. I would, at the same time, propose and want to play future games where hiding money is not allowed.

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Kind of like there is some "proof" of Covid coming from a lab in Wuhan.

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Lots of posts about it should you choose to read them.

BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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dajo9 said:

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There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

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You are correct.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks in the US, documents show | Fox News

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Holy smokes. Based on what you just said, a model had a work visa where she was allowed to look for work but not actually work and in a one month period took a few modeling jobs? ZOMG! Lock her up! Better yet, burn her! This is the most ridiculous witch hunt.

By the way, it is not hypocritical to take advantage of unenforced laws or things that are legal, even if you disagree with them. Enforcing these laws or making these things illegal later is not hypocritical.

It is lame to hide money in monopoly. However, if I am playing with my brothers who hide money, I would hide money too. I would, at the same time, propose and want to play future games where hiding money is not allowed.

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Kind of like there is some "proof" of Covid coming from a lab in Wuhan.

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Lots of posts about it should you choose to read them.

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I've already told you multiple times that I'm not interested in reading posts based in speculation.
For some reason, you are unable to accept that.
Not my problem.

DiabloWags said:

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DiabloWags said:

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dajo9 said:

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There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

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You are correct.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks in the US, documents show | Fox News

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Holy smokes. Based on what you just said, a model had a work visa where she was allowed to look for work but not actually work and in a one month period took a few modeling jobs? ZOMG! Lock her up! Better yet, burn her! This is the most ridiculous witch hunt.

By the way, it is not hypocritical to take advantage of unenforced laws or things that are legal, even if you disagree with them. Enforcing these laws or making these things illegal later is not hypocritical.

It is lame to hide money in monopoly. However, if I am playing with my brothers who hide money, I would hide money too. I would, at the same time, propose and want to play future games where hiding money is not allowed.

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Kind of like there is some "proof" of Covid coming from a lab in Wuhan.

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Please don't pirate the topic. Stay on point and avoid personal attacks.

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DiabloWags said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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dajo9 said:

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There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

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You are correct.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks in the US, documents show | Fox News

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Holy smokes. Based on what you just said, a model had a work visa where she was allowed to look for work but not actually work and in a one month period took a few modeling jobs? ZOMG! Lock her up! Better yet, burn her! This is the most ridiculous witch hunt.

By the way, it is not hypocritical to take advantage of unenforced laws or things that are legal, even if you disagree with them. Enforcing these laws or making these things illegal later is not hypocritical.

It is lame to hide money in monopoly. However, if I am playing with my brothers who hide money, I would hide money too. I would, at the same time, propose and want to play future games where hiding money is not allowed.

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Kind of like there is some "proof" of Covid coming from a lab in Wuhan.

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Please don't pirate the topic. Stay on point and avoid personal attacks.

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There were none.
Please stop trolling me and obey the board rules.

DiabloWags said:

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DiabloWags said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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dajo9 said:

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There is some proof that Melania worked in the US illegally

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You are correct.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.

Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks in the US, documents show | Fox News

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Holy smokes. Based on what you just said, a model had a work visa where she was allowed to look for work but not actually work and in a one month period took a few modeling jobs? ZOMG! Lock her up! Better yet, burn her! This is the most ridiculous witch hunt.

By the way, it is not hypocritical to take advantage of unenforced laws or things that are legal, even if you disagree with them. Enforcing these laws or making these things illegal later is not hypocritical.

It is lame to hide money in monopoly. However, if I am playing with my brothers who hide money, I would hide money too. I would, at the same time, propose and want to play future games where hiding money is not allowed.

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Kind of like there is some "proof" of Covid coming from a lab in Wuhan.

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Please don't pirate the topic. Stay on point and avoid personal attacks.

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There were none.
Please stop trolling me and obey the board rules.

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I didn't troll you nor disobey board rules.