Aaron on fire.

Tearing the 49ers a new one.

Fine, but even the Cal Bears looked GREAT in the first quarter against Nevada. Not so good since...

Keep it up, AR!

I love the way the TV production team make it look like the game is in San Francisco with the bridge shots and Coit Tower in the fog.

Why not be proud of the beauty of Santa Clara County?


The railings on the upper decks are low and are below my center body mass:


Which makes me scratch my head wondering why no one has ever taken a flyer out of Levis.

Great America is louder than Levi's right now. And they're closed.

The sting of leaving SF has lessened over time, but the shame of choosing Santa Clara as their home endures.

Alex Mack with a great block to get SF a TD right before the half.

Thanks for the memories, Sonny. Way to shine!

I think Collinsworth belittled AR by dwelling on coverage error. That was one heck of a throw.

Entertaining game. Kittle is a beast.

Helluva game. Niners defense couldn't hold it.

Should have squibed the kickoff to waste some seconds. Would have won.

Those field goal thingies are incredible! One guy snaps the ball, another guy holds it just right and then the third guy kicks it through the uprights! And the other eight guys keep the defense from blocking the kick! I can't remember seeing anything like that (lately)!

"How could you not be romantic about football?” - Aaron Rodgers

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— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) September 27, 2021

In other news, free Viagra will be handed out to Cal fans at CMS for the remainder of this season.

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The sting of leaving SF has lessened over time, but the shame of choosing Santa Clara as their home endures.

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Still makes me mad. Almost as mad as the team passing on Aaron Rodgers.

BadNewsBear1 said:

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Should have squibed the kickoff to waste some seconds. Would have won.

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Maybe. Probably, perhaps. But it also would have changed how the Packers attacked. With fewer seconds, maybe they're more aggressive and they get down the field quicker. Once you change that, you have no idea what would have happened and can't say what would have happened.

GMP said:

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BadNewsBear1 said:

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Should have squibed the kickoff to waste some seconds. Would have won.

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Maybe. Probably, perhaps. But it also would have changed how the Packers attacked. With fewer seconds, maybe they're more aggressive and they get down the field quicker. Once you change that, you have no idea what would have happened and can't say what would have happened.

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Squib kick could also result in a shorter field if it gets cut off early.

.@AaronRodgers12's reaction is everything.#GoPackGo | @Packers pic.twitter.com/AHY43658tJ

— NFL (@NFL) September 27, 2021

sycasey said:

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GMP said:

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BadNewsBear1 said:

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Should have squibed the kickoff to waste some seconds. Would have won.

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Maybe. Probably, perhaps. But it also would have changed how the Packers attacked. With fewer seconds, maybe they're more aggressive and they get down the field quicker. Once you change that, you have no idea what would have happened and can't say what would have happened.

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Squib kick could also result in a shorter field if it gets cut off early.

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OK.....should have squibed it down to the five and have it hit off the returner's knee, start the clock, run 5 seconds off and force him to fall on it at the three lol!

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Why not be proud of the beauty of Santa Clara County?

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Looks like the after photo of Chernobyl.

What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

what a game! packers with no timeouts left, 37 seconds left. Aaron Butte community legend strikes again.

dmh65 said:

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What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

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A long time south bay resident here. What a terrible location for an nfl stadium. Both the niners management and the city of sc failed a big time.

dmh65 said:

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What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

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I'm more shocked that they built a stadium that immediately felt dated. All around the league teams have built awesome venues and the Niners didn't even try.

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dmh65 said:

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What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

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I'm more shocked that they built a stadium that immediately felt dated. All around the league teams have built awesome venues and the Niners didn't even try.

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Having worked nearly 20 years in that area, just a couple blocks away, I've seen that eyesore of a stadium too often. I've been inside a couple times for company events too and it, IMO, has zero aesthetic appeal from within also. There's simply no jaw-drop factor; and there should have been for this franchise, Silicon Valley, the Bay Area...

As far as the location goes, the South Bay, there's a huge population base here though. San Jose itself is larger than San Francisco. I recall research indicating a majority of season ticket holders were south of SF too, so the decision in that respect makes sense. Major highways are within a couple miles of the stadium, so pretty good in that respect and I don't recall much in the way of residential housing nearby (was born in Santa Clara)...

AR was clutch yet again. I was yelling so loud on that last drive, I'm sure some neighbors grew irritated, lol. Helped soothe Saturday's loss...

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dmh65 said:

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What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

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I'm more shocked that they built a stadium that immediately felt dated. All around the league teams have built awesome venues and the Niners didn't even try.

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The contrast with the Rams and Bucs game at SoFi stadium could not have been more stark. Now that is an impressive venue!

dmh65 said:

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What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

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i wished they had stayed in SF too, but I'm not sure they ever could have gotten their stadium built there....at least not at the same favorable terms.

They're valued at $4.2B (#6 overall in the league). I think the franchise will be ok long-term.

dmh65 said:

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What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

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i wished they had stayed in SF too, but I'm not sure they ever could have gotten their stadium built there....at least not at the same favorable terms.

They're valued at $4.2B (#6 overall in the league). I think the franchise will be ok long-term.

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dmh65 said:

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What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

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i wished they had stayed in SF too, but I'm not sure they ever could have gotten their stadium built there....at least not at the same favorable terms.

They're valued at $4.2B (#6 overall in the league). I think the franchise will be ok long-term.

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Yeah, they tricked Santa Clara into giving them that sweet deal they should never have supported. Good for the Yorks I guess.

Just awesome

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socaliganbear said:

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dmh65 said:

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What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

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I'm more shocked that they built a stadium that immediately felt dated. All around the league teams have built awesome venues and the Niners didn't even try.

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Having worked nearly 20 years in that area, just a couple blocks away, I've seen that eyesore of a stadium too often. I've been inside a couple times for company events too and it, IMO, has zero aesthetic appeal from within also. There's simply no jaw-drop factor; and there should have been for this franchise, Silicon Valley, the Bay Area...

As far as the location goes, the South Bay, there's a huge population base here though. San Jose itself is larger than San Francisco. I recall research indicating a majority of season ticket holders were south of SF too, so the decision in that respect makes sense. Major highways are within a couple miles of the stadium, so pretty good in that respect and I don't recall much in the way of residential housing nearby (was born in Santa Clara)...

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I will disagree with you on one point. I think there are aspects of the stadium that are jaw-dropping. I think the stadium was designed for suites and the club level first and everything else was an after thought. The club level and suites are phenomenal and I think they will hold up quite well over time.

I also have less of an issue with the move south than I do with the specific move to SC. The location is horrendous and it makes going to games a complete chore. Granted, I live in the city, but still it's a disaster to get to even if you are coming from closer because they built it in the middle of office parks. It's obvious that very little thought was given to how to move tens of thousands of cars within a compressed timeframe so people will start getting antsy to leave before the game ends - hence you end up with the proverbial LA fan. I went to a preseason game recently (got dragged to it) and by far the worst part was between the freeway and the parking lots. The connection to SF proper had become nominal over the years. Most people in SF are transplants and don't have any connection to the niners. The move sucked for the fans from Vallejo, Napa and Marin but I believe that on average fans are driving fewer miles to the new stadium than the stick.

I'm also not sure this is really related to the move but there also seem to be a lot more riffraff tailgating than at candlestick. The stick certainly wasn't a conflict free zone, but from what I can tell it's significantly worse now. I can't imagine taking my kids to a niner game until they are in middle school or high school. Maybe this is because the raiders left, I don't know.

"riffraff "

Some have said that describing me with this term constitutes an unmerited upgrade.

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"riffraff "

Some have said that describing me with this term constitutes an unmerited upgrade.

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It's funny because a lot of people portrayed niners tailgating as wine and steak (and there are certainly some people like that). The last decade plus at the stick proved that stereotype to be less and less relevant and the parking lot feels more like Mos Eisley Cantina meets Margaritaville than it does the Carnelian Room.

The one thing that hasn't changed is the banjo guy. He's still around.

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Cal89 said:

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socaliganbear said:

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dmh65 said:

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What a lousy move for the franchise to leave SF for Santa Clara, i'm still pissed about it. I think they saved a bunch of money short term, but really devalued the franchise in the long term. And it's not just the location; I think it's a lousy stadium.
I'm also unhappy that the Warriors left Oakland for SF, but that's at least understandable.

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I'm more shocked that they built a stadium that immediately felt dated. All around the league teams have built awesome venues and the Niners didn't even try.

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Having worked nearly 20 years in that area, just a couple blocks away, I've seen that eyesore of a stadium too often. I've been inside a couple times for company events too and it, IMO, has zero aesthetic appeal from within also. There's simply no jaw-drop factor; and there should have been for this franchise, Silicon Valley, the Bay Area...

As far as the location goes, the South Bay, there's a huge population base here though. San Jose itself is larger than San Francisco. I recall research indicating a majority of season ticket holders were south of SF too, so the decision in that respect makes sense. Major highways are within a couple miles of the stadium, so pretty good in that respect and I don't recall much in the way of residential housing nearby (was born in Santa Clara)...

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I will disagree with you on one point. I think there are aspects of the stadium that are jaw-dropping. I think the stadium was designed for suites and the club level first and everything else was an after thought. The club level and suites are phenomenal and I think they will hold up quite well over time.

I also have less of an issue with the move south than I do with the specific move to SC. The location is horrendous and it makes going to games a complete chore. Granted, I live in the city, but still it's a disaster to get to even if you are coming from closer because they built it in the middle of office parks. It's obvious that very little thought was given to how to move tens of thousands of cars within a compressed timeframe so people will start getting antsy to leave before the game ends - hence you end up with the proverbial LA fan. I went to a preseason game recently (got dragged to it) and by far the worst part was between the freeway and the parking lots. The connection to SF proper had become nominal over the years. Most people in SF are transplants and don't have any connection to the niners. The move sucked for the fans from Vallejo, Napa and Marin but I believe that on average fans are driving fewer miles to the new stadium than the stick.

I'm also not sure this is really related to the move but there also seem to be a lot more riffraff tailgating than at candlestick. The stick certainly wasn't a conflict free zone, but from what I can tell it's significantly worse now. I can't imagine taking my kids to a niner game until they are in middle school or high school. Maybe this is because the raiders left, I don't know.

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With respect to suites and club level seating, I have no valuable input there, so I'll take your word on those.

As a kid, having had Giant's season tickets (Sunday games) at Candlestick and also Raider's season tickets, it was always a nightmare to get-out for us (South Bay residents). With that as my only reference, I guess it sounds like what I remember...

You brought back some memories of attending Raider games during my elementary school years, mostly very good ones, but riffraff is being polite, lol.