My opinion: Jimmy Lake has coached his final game at Washington, and Justin Wilcox will be hired by UW within a month

— Jon Wilner (@wilnerhotline) November 9, 2021

Coaching trade or is Cal job too toxic?

Might be a good result for us. But Knowlton hiring the next guy makes me scared. I thought Halloween was over?

CaliforniaEternal said:

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Oh God. Lake = Wilcox.

82gradDLSdad said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Oh God. Lake = Wilcox.

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Lake lost his composure during a heated rivalry game, Wilcox has been mediocre for 5 years.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Oh God. Lake = Wilcox.

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Except Lake was fired for hitting a player.

UW buying out Wilcox's contract is far better than us having to fire him and buy out his contract. I just don't see UW doing that. Lake just beat Wilcox a few weeks ago.


Our basketball team just lost our home opener to UCSD 67-80.

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82gradDLSdad said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Oh God. Lake = Wilcox.

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Except Lake was fired for hitting a player.

UW buying out Wilcox's contract is far better than us having to fire him and buy out his contract. I just don't see UW doing that. Lake just beat Wilcox a few weeks ago.

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Wilcox has familiarity with the program and would be obviously an unremarkable but stable hire. Of course the Husky fanbase will howl when it happens.

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82gradDLSdad said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Oh God. Lake = Wilcox.

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Except Lake was fired for hitting a player.

UW buying out Wilcox's contract is far better than us having to fire him and buy out his contract. I just don't see UW doing that. Lake just beat Wilcox a few weeks ago.

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I saw nuns do more damage to grammar schoolers than what Lake did to that college football player.

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calumnus said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Oh God. Lake = Wilcox.

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Except Lake was fired for hitting a player.

UW buying out Wilcox's contract is far better than us having to fire him and buy out his contract. I just don't see UW doing that. Lake just beat Wilcox a few weeks ago.

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Wilcox has familiarity with the program and would be obviously an unremarkable but stable hire. Of course the Husky fanbase will howl when it happens.

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Plus Wilcox has performed well vs UW here at Cal. 2-2 with both wins coming over top-15 ranked UW teams and one of the losses in OT. Relative to expectations, there probably isn't another Pac-12 team that Wilcox has done as well against. Of course this is not a good reason to hire someone, but it probably makes an impression on people.

He may want to go, and Sirmon may want to go with him to coach his son.

Nope. He's not going. Much of this mess is institutional and of course there is no support from Berkeley for sports in general, but he's not leaving as a "loser." Remember when we suggested he was going to get plucked by a better program? Funny.

okaydo said:

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My opinion: Jimmy Lake has coached his final game at Washington, and Justin Wilcox will be hired by UW within a month

— Jon Wilner (@wilnerhotline) November 9, 2021

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I think I am OK with this.

Wilcox will leave and be a success Cal will hire someone else and be mediocre
The problem at Cal is institutional and will never change
If Wilcox goes to UW they will rise again

This would be a dream come true.

okaydo said:

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My opinion: Jimmy Lake has coached his final game at Washington, and Justin Wilcox will be hired by UW within a month

— Jon Wilner (@wilnerhotline) November 9, 2021

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Makes sense, Husky fans are already used to seeing good defense and bad offense. It's a perfect match rivaling any on e-Harmony.

And Brad Musgrave will be promoted to head coach!

Wilcox isn't going anywhere, he has the #3 defense in the conference and the #5 offense in the conference. The AZ game was an outlier for obvious reasons and prior to that one could argue that Cal's offense was one of the best in the PAC 12. This major bump in the road, COVID, will derail that a bit due to lack of practice time but it should be enough to beat 'furd. Fucla will be a challenge but by then both the O and D will have had significant reps.

The bigger problem for Cal is how many current players decide enough is enough and transfer out at the end of the year. Recruiting has already been impacted due to a poor start to the season and that may be exasperated with what has transpired in the last week.

Why Knowlton made the decision to stop testing during the season is a fireable offense. Christ has to roll a head and it has to be Knowlton's.

Go Bears!!

I mean, this is certainly a better outcome than firing Wilcox and throwing good money after bad but do we really think this AD is going to replace Wilcox with someone better? We have a puncher's chance but more likely than not we end up worse off than we are now. Which is saying something.

KoreAmBear said:

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He may want to go, and Sirmon may want to go with him to coach his son.

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Nephew Son.

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KoreAmBear said:

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He may want to go, and Sirmon may want to go with him to coach his son.

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Nephew

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Son

Moon.

New hope!

Strykur said:

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Oh God. Lake = Wilcox.

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Except Lake was fired for hitting a player.

UW buying out Wilcox's contract is far better than us having to fire him and buy out his contract. I just don't see UW doing that. Lake just beat Wilcox a few weeks ago.

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Absolutely! There is nothing in Wilcox's resume, even the 2 razor thin wins over the Dawgs, that would justify this hire for the fan base. Delusional Husky fans see the job as a career goal on the order of USC, 'Bama, ND, OK, tOSU! That said, Lake's record and recruiting failures are far more likely to bring him down than the player abuse incident.

Good riddance. UW replacing a bad coach with an even worse one. This could potentially be great news for Cal if we could hire someone good. But Knowelton is our AD, so…

"I saw nuns do more damage to grammar schoolers than what Lake did to that college football player."

yup, the old yardstick across the knuckles really hurt LOL

🏈#UWfootball BREAKING NEWS: 9:20 a.m.

Hugh Millen, former team captain & Washington QB, stated on 950 KJR that UW is buyout negotiations with coach Jimmy Lake.#JimmyLake #GoDawgs #Huskies #JenCohen #Buyout #950KJR

— Sports By Chris Clough (@ChrisOnSports) November 10, 2021

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Wilcox will leave and be a success Cal will hire someone else and be mediocre
The problem at Cal is institutional and will never change
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No they won't. UW doesn't fare any better than Cal when they have bad coaches.
See Gilbertson, Willingham, and Lake. Even Sark didn't do very well there. Sure, Petersen did well, but he's one of the best coaches around.

People look at Dykes at SMU and say "See? The problem is Cal." Yes, the problem for Dykes was Cal. It was a terrible fit for both sides. That doesn't mean "Cal is a problem for every coach," it means Cal needs to do a MUCH better job at finding a good coach who is a good fit. (Just like everyone else who hires people, this is Human Resources 101.)

Wilcox was "great fit, mediocre coach." At UW he would be "okay fit, still mediocre coach, but with much higher expectations." So if he goes, I hope he is saving his money and investing it well.

If Wilcox goes to UW, he will fail there, like he did at Cal. And if, God forbid, Lake comes to Cal, he will fail here, too. Miserably. He's the only coach in the Pac 12 who is arguably worse than Wilcox.

That's not to say I wouldn't blame Wilcox for leaving. The Lockdown Cult Crazies have ruined Cal and, by extension, the sports programs. He'll find out Seattle isn't any better in that regard, he should set is sights east. COVID is always going to be with us. Which means in Deep Blue America, COVID Cult Crazy will always be with us. The rest of the country is done with this and doing fine. Wilcox would just be changing addresses in Losertown. But, given his judgment as a coach, this move wouldn't surprise me in the least. Good luck and good riddance.

I'd take any other coach in the Pac 12 over those two (well, not SC's interim HC, but he's not a real HC).

If Cal wants to take a fired UW coach, the only one I'd feel remotely okay about would be Neuheisel. And that's because he was actually a good coach at UW.

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Frankly I think only a Cal person would take on this radioactive job now. Too bad Pawlawski did not go into coaching, he'd be great. Troy Taylor might come.

I don't think Wilcox is a bad coach, but like... why would they want him?

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I don't think Wilcox is a bad coach, but like... why would they want him?

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They have an inkling of hope that Wilcox could do something up there, previously coached in Seattle, they have to get rid of Lake, and there are a ton of openings this year.

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Frankly I think only a Cal person would take on this radioactive job now. Too bad Pawlawski did not go into coaching, he'd be great. Troy Taylor might come.

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Troy Taylor was getting $500K annual while at Utah but then took a 50% pay cut to $240K to coach Sac State, we just need to pay enough and he will come unless some other program takes a shot at him.

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Frankly I think only a Cal person would take on this radioactive job now. Too bad Pawlawski did not go into coaching, he'd be great. Troy Taylor might come.

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Troy Taylor was getting $500K annual while at Utah but then took a 50% pay cut to $240K to coach Sac State, we just need to pay enough and he will come unless some other program takes a shot at him.

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Do not waste money on "search firms"

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Frankly I think only a Cal person would take on this radioactive job now. Too bad Pawlawski did not go into coaching, he'd be great. Troy Taylor might come.

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Troy Taylor was getting $500K annual while at Utah but then took a 50% pay cut to $240K to coach Sac State, we just need to pay enough and he will come unless some other program takes a shot at him.

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Could not agree more. Why keep going to the dry well?

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diva1 said:

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Wilcox will leave and be a success Cal will hire someone else and be mediocre
The problem at Cal is institutional and will never change
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No they won't. UW doesn't fare any better than Cal when they have bad coaches.
See Gilbertson, Willingham, and Lake. Even Sark didn't do very well there. Sure, Petersen did well, but he's one of the best coaches around.

People look at Dykes at SMU and say "See? The problem is Cal." Yes, the problem for Dykes was Cal. It was a terrible fit for both sides. That doesn't mean "Cal is a problem for every coach," it means Cal needs to do a MUCH better job at finding a good coach who is a good fit. (Just like everyone else who hires people, this is Human Resources 101.)

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I'm seriously questioning whether anyone at this point is a good fit for Cal. Every hire we've made in the last 50 years has either been terrible or in the three cases where they were okay, one was forced out, one left for a better job, and one flamed out hard. And the best of those still couldn't get us to a Rose Bowl.

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You mean the guy who flamed out with superior talent and location at UCLA? How would that work for us in any way?

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diva1 said:

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Wilcox will leave and be a success Cal will hire someone else and be mediocre
The problem at Cal is institutional and will never change
If Wilcox goes to UW they will rise again

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No they won't. UW doesn't fare any better than Cal when they have bad coaches.
See Gilbertson, Willingham, and Lake. Even Sark didn't do very well there. Sure, Petersen did well, but he's one of the best coaches around.

People look at Dykes at SMU and say "See? The problem is Cal." Yes, the problem for Dykes was Cal. It was a terrible fit for both sides. That doesn't mean "Cal is a problem for every coach," it means Cal needs to do a MUCH better job at finding a good coach who is a good fit. (Just like everyone else who hires people, this is Human Resources 101.)

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I'm seriously questioning whether anyone at this point is a good fit for Cal. Every hire we've made in the last 50 years has either been terrible or in the three cases where they were okay, one was forced out, one left for a better job, and one flamed out hard. And the best of those still couldn't get us to a Rose Bowl.

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You mean the guy who flamed out with superior talent and location at UCLA? How would that work for us in any way?

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Snyder and Tedford were not just OK.