TandemBear said:

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How will the mathematics department pay for the seismic retrofit?
Will they sell exclusive "center 10 lecture hall seats" to students who want the "best view of the action?"
Will they pump songs & advertisements through the building's PA system to "enhance" revenue?
Jumbotron space for advertisers?
Sell the naming rights to the computer lab?

I'd sure like to know how on earth they're gonna be able to justify such huge expenditure and run math "in the black" so the University can provide its much sought-after "stakeholder value."

And this is for a COMPLETELY NON-REVENUE academic department! Oh man, they're gonna have to rely on some "non-traditional revenue sources" to make this whole thing work!

Otherwise, it looks like it'll NEVER get repaid! At LEAST Memorial Stadium has some sort of repayment plan - with interest, no less!

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79 Bear said:

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MilleniaBear said:

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"Abandon All Hope All Ye Who Enter Here"

I still wake at night with nightmares of being trapped in the basement of Evans waiting for my computer cards to feed and my Fortran program to compile. ***sob***

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I may have seen you there while trying to finish my final project for my Fortran for non-CSEE majors class. Still not sure how I finally got it to work.

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concernedparent said:

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Golden One said:

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Evans Hall is certainly not an architectural gem, but it's not the ugliest building on campus. I just don't see how a campus so strapped for money and space can just tear down a 12-story building and leave the space open. And then they're going to shoe horn a new building in the small Dwinelle parking lot? Unbelieveable. It could only happen at Cal, where administrators seem to be totally brain dead.

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What building is uglier?

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Big Dog said:

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concernedparent said:

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Golden One said:

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Evans Hall is certainly not an architectural gem, but it's not the ugliest building on campus. I just don't see how a campus so strapped for money and space can just tear down a 12-story building and leave the space open. And then they're going to shoe horn a new building in the small Dwinelle parking lot? Unbelieveable. It could only happen at Cal, where administrators seem to be totally brain dead.

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What building is uglier?

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"Bill Wurster had hoped that no University regent would like the building when it was finished, and he got his wish."

btw: Wurster Hall was designed by the Architecture school faculty.


https://ced.berkeley.edu/about-ced/college-history

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MilleniaBear said:

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"Abandon All Hope All Ye Who Enter Here"

I still wake at night with nightmares of being trapped in the basement of Evans waiting for my computer cards to feed and my Fortran program to compile. ***sob***

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socaliganbear said:

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The new Gateway building is probably the wildest to me.

https://capitalstrategies.berkeley.edu/gateway

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Unit2Sucks said:

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ncbears said:

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Bye Bye

I have no fond memories of Evans Hall. And while I knew architecture majors and practitioners who would defend Wurster - I never heard any defense of Evans.

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I enjoyed my classes there but yeesh have to agree with everything you said. Nobody will miss that building.

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Golden One said:

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concernedparent said:

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Golden One said:

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Evans Hall is certainly not an architectural gem, but it's not the ugliest building on campus. I just don't see how a campus so strapped for money and space can just tear down a 12-story building and leave the space open. And then they're going to shoe horn a new building in the small Dwinelle parking lot? Unbelieveable. It could only happen at Cal, where administrators seem to be totally brain dead.

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What building is uglier?

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You're kidding, right? Wurster Hall is by far the ugliest building on campus. Cory Hall and Lewis Hall are not great.

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Chapman_is_Gone said:

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Golden One said:

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concernedparent said:

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Golden One said:

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Evans Hall is certainly not an architectural gem, but it's not the ugliest building on campus. I just don't see how a campus so strapped for money and space can just tear down a 12-story building and leave the space open. And then they're going to shoe horn a new building in the small Dwinelle parking lot? Unbelieveable. It could only happen at Cal, where administrators seem to be totally brain dead.

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What building is uglier?

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You're kidding, right? Wurster Hall is by far the ugliest building on campus. Cory Hall and Lewis Hall are not great.

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As someone who pulled many an all-nighter in Wurster, Wurster has a huge degree of functionality in its design that, to some extent, results in and justifies its ugliness.

What excuse does Evans have? None.

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Golden One said:

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concernedparent said:

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Golden One said:

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Evans Hall is certainly not an architectural gem, but it's not the ugliest building on campus. I just don't see how a campus so strapped for money and space can just tear down a 12-story building and leave the space open. And then they're going to shoe horn a new building in the small Dwinelle parking lot? Unbelieveable. It could only happen at Cal, where administrators seem to be totally brain dead.

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What building is uglier?

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You're kidding, right? Wurster Hall is by far the ugliest building on campus. Cory Hall and Lewis Hall are not great.

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dimitrig said:

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I actually have fond memories of that building.

I was an Applied Math major who took a lot of math, statistics, computer science, economics, and other classes in Evans Hall. I bet half of my classes were in Evans, maybe more. Evans/(former) Leconte/Cory/Wheeler/Lewis/Latimer/Pimentel/Campbell were where I spent years of my life. I rarely had classes on other parts of campus, especially the west and northwest parts.

While not the most beautiful building, it also wasn't the ugliest and as others have said it had greats views from the student lounges on the top floors. The courtyard on the 9th floor was a hidden gem. The Math Library was also in Evans Hall. Not a lot of people went there so it was a nice quiet place to study.

The basement hosted the WEB (Workstations in Evans Basement) which was a computer lab. I spent many all-nighters there and some people even slept there - at least until 5am when the cleaning crew would roust us out. We did homework but also socialized. The Open Computing Facility (OCF), which provided free Internet access to all students was based in Evans.

Evans also housed the CSUA (Computer Science Undergraduate Association). At night the elevators were turned off and couldn't be called to the lower floors. However, there was a terminal inside the room with the printers and from that terminal we could login and send messages to each other.

A call of "elevatorP" (derived from Pascal) would prompt the students on the upper floors to send the elevator down to get you after hours.

There was also a "Magic Door" which had a malfunctioning lock which could get you into the building after hours.

Other memories of Evans Hall include the "Gravity Tester" and an FBI raid spawned by rumors of software piracy.

Sad to see it go. I actually am growing a jade plant taken from a cutting one of the Evans Hall balconies.

I also liked being able to see Evans (along with the Campanile) to identify campus from SF.

As for Dwinelle, I'd be glad to be rid of that building. It is ugly as sin and I did get lost in it more than once. Only when I was a senior did I realize Dwinelle housed a theater and I saw some productions there, but it still gets my vote for most horrible building. Wurster is a close second - or maybe Moffitt Library. I don't know why anyone goes to Moffitt for any reason ever. I wouldn't mind seeing (former) Barrows torn down either. All of these are far more hideous than Evans, but I guess Evans has seismic issues.

My favorite building was the Doe Library. I spent time studying in Doe but also just reading the print magazines and newspapers between classes in the reading rooms or Morrison. Bancroft Library is also a place a lot of students don't venture to, but I discovered it during my job as a campus courier.

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socaliganbear said:

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Remodeled moffitt is awesome

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socaliganbear said:

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Remodeled moffitt is awesome

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dimitrig said:

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I
My favorite building was the Doe Library. I spent time studying in Doe but also just reading the print magazines and newspapers between classes in the reading rooms or Morrison.

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annarborbear said:

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I remember complaining about Wurster's appearance to some of my architecture student friends, and they responded that it is a great design because "it looks wet when it rains". I guess there's that.

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dimitrig said:

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I don't know why anyone goes to Moffitt for any reason ever.

My favorite building was the Doe Library.

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WalterSobchak said:

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dimitrig said:

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I don't know why anyone goes to Moffitt for any reason ever.

My favorite building was the Doe Library.

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Big +1 from me. I used to go walk around or sit in Doe sometimes just to improve my mood. Always makes me feel better. Went into Moffit late in our last semester with some friends because they had to meet someone or something and when I casually commented that I'd never been in there before everyone looked at me like I was crazy.

Also, wish I knew about the lounges up in Evans. I always figured it must have great views but never explored. When/why did Barrows stop being Barrows? Barrows and Haas are where I spent most of my time.

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GivemTheAxe said:

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Big C said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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dimitrig said:

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I don't know why anyone goes to Moffitt for any reason ever.

My favorite building was the Doe Library.

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Big +1 from me. I used to go walk around or sit in Doe sometimes just to improve my mood. Always makes me feel better. Went into Moffit late in our last semester with some friends because they had to meet someone or something and when I casually commented that I'd never been in there before everyone looked at me like I was crazy.

Also, wish I knew about the lounges up in Evans. I always figured it must have great views but never explored. When/why did Barrows stop being Barrows? Barrows and Haas are where I spent most of my time.

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I liked Moffitt because it was ugly... no distractions. (ADHD)


As far as ugliest buildings, it was clear to me:

3. Kroeber: plenty ugly, but not that big... and stuck off in the corner of campus near Boalt

2. Barrows: Not ugly but not at all good looking, way too big and close to the (outside) center of campus, visible from a distance, even by car. People arriving to campus from points south would see (yuk) Barrows.

1. Evans: Big and ugly. A monstrosity. (dimitrig, glad you have fond memories from the inside).


If I had it to do over again, I would definitely explore some of the out-of-the way libraries and spots on campus.

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I lived way off of campus at Various apartments. So I would spend the entire day on campus and would not go home until it was time to watch Johnny Carson.
The main part of my day when I wasn't in class or on
My job at the Student Union or taking part in extra curricular activities I was somewhere in One of the Campus libraries. I tried to study in every library on campus at one time or another. Most of the time I was at Doe
Cal has some great libraries and never had a bad experience in any of them. But Doe was not only a spectacular building but it was a great place to mingle and meet women. Because of the setting it was always easy to start up a conversation with a cute coed. In fact I met the coed who eventually became my wife in the main reading room at Doe.

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