Puts Cal at 5.5 wins, which seems about right to me. Sorry if already posted.

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/pac-12-football-over-under-win-totals

I hope for nine wins, but, at this point, 5.5 wins sound about right to me as well.

Go Bears!

I'm assuming the offense in spring ball shows and not the offense of the last few years:

Davis - W
UNLV - W
at ND - L
UofA- - close W (better, but still not at middle tier yet, and Cal wins at home)
at WSU - close L (actually I don't really know what to expect from WSU given coaching changes, etc. They were a good team last year. WSU wins at home)
Colorado - W (4-8 team that was decimated by key portal transfers, and seem to be going the wrong way)
Udub - W (the experts seem to love Udub, but I think this a transition year with new coaches, players, big portal losses, and Wilcox seems to have their number)
Oregon - close L (Wilcox seems to have their number, new coaching staff and other issues, but they are loaded with talent. Late enough in the season Ducks are starting to put in together. Cal could win this game)
at USC - L
at OSU - ? (though game to call - using my .5. I like the way Cal matches up. interestingly OSU Internet site has Cal as their key game and close)
Furd - W (Great QB, and a lot of rebuilding, Cal D rises to the occasion at home)
UCLA - L (sorry, we just don't seem to play them well)

I'm at 6.5. I can actually see 8 wins (OSU and UCLA) if the offense is is good, just not okay.

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I'm assuming the offense in spring ball shows and not the offense of the last few years:

Davis - W
UNLV - W
at ND - L
UofA- - close W (better, but still not at middle tier yet, and Cal wins at home)
at WSU - close L (actually I don't really know what to expect from WSU given coaching changes, etc. They were a good team last year. WSU wins at home)
Colorado - W (4-8 team that was decimated by key portal transfers, and seem to be going the wrong way)
Udub - W (the experts seem to love Udub, but I think this a transition year with new coaches, players, big portal losses, and Wilcox seems to have their number)
Oregon - close L (Wilcox seems to have their number, new coaching staff and other issues, but they are loaded with talent. Late enough in the season Ducks are starting to put in together. Cal could win this game)
at USC - L
at OSU - ? (though game to call - using my .5. I like the way Cal matches up. interestingly OSU Internet site has Cal as their key game and close)
Furd - W (Great QB, and a lot of rebuilding, Cal D rises to the occasion at home)
UCLA - L (sorry, we just don't seem to play them well)

I'm at 6.5. I can actually see 8 wins (OSU and UCLA) if the offense is is good, just not okay.

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I am pretty much in line with a 7-5 record (OSU win) players are certainly optimistic. Odua Isbor the transfer from Ucla says the talent level is the same and he likes the staff coaching/support/vibe and feels that this will lead to the team playing a bit looser/and displaying the talent level he sees(vs Ucla where Kelly was a tough task master that occasionally lead to a toxic locker room). He further says the team's Dline is extremely talented and the LB core is very deep. Its summer and optimism always runs high, but Odua has the best current connection/observations. He transferred here since the team will use him at LB, vs edge and that he feels gives him the best chance to play at the next level.

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Puts Cal at 5.5 wins, which seems about right to me. Sorry if already posted.

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/pac-12-football-over-under-win-totals

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I saw a similar report on CBS last week and I'm working on a more comprehensive response to these predictions, which, in my opinion, are based on typically poor analysis. It seems that the reports from these major sports networks are shoddy because the labor is not coming from a college football specialist and certainly not a pac-12 specialist. We used to have that from ESPN with Miller. But his blog doesn't exist anymore. It's the same thing even with the magazines like Lindy's and Athlon, both of which are produced in SEC country.

The reason why I say they are shoddy is that they almost always make the mistake of basing their predictions on last year's results or on the general historical quality of each team. Real analysis would be based on looking at each team's current roster and assessing it based on experience and performance level. It is my opinion that teams with lots of unit strengths and few unit weaknesses are going to do better. Arizona, for example, has had a massive roster turnover and now they have few real weaknesses. Problems they had on offense are largely addressed and have even become strengths.

I will be making some detailed posts on each team in the conference, modifying it as we find out more during fall practices.

While I agree that 5.5 is fairly accurate for Cal, the stated reasons are pretty lame. For example, they think Cal's roster is weaker than last season. I'm not sure about that. But Cal could have had as many as 9 or 10 wins last season had there been some very slight changes. To say that Cal was a 5 win team last season is a very shallow statement, especially in light of the Arizona debacle.

If Cal fixes their ST problems, it will make a big difference.

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I'm assuming the offense in spring ball shows and not the offense of the last few years:

Davis - W
UNLV - W
at ND - L
UofA- - close W (better, but still not at middle tier yet, and Cal wins at home)
at WSU - close L (actually I don't really know what to expect from WSU given coaching changes, etc. They were a good team last year. WSU wins at home)
Colorado - W (4-8 team that was decimated by key portal transfers, and seem to be going the wrong way)
Udub - W (the experts seem to love Udub, but I think this a transition year with new coaches, players, big portal losses, and Wilcox seems to have their number)
Oregon - close L (Wilcox seems to have their number, new coaching staff and other issues, but they are loaded with talent. Late enough in the season Ducks are starting to put in together. Cal could win this game)
at USC - L
at OSU - ? (though game to call - using my .5. I like the way Cal matches up. interestingly OSU Internet site has Cal as their key game and close)
Furd - W (Great QB, and a lot of rebuilding, Cal D rises to the occasion at home)
UCLA - L (sorry, we just don't seem to play them well)

I'm at 6.5. I can actually see 8 wins (OSU and UCLA) if the offense is is good, just not okay.

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As usual, your thinking is closest to mine on this. However, beware of pencilling an Arizona win. How many years have we done that and when will we learn. Arizona will be much improved this year. I agree it will be close and Cal could win. I'm calling that the most under-rated game of the year in Berkeley and, if there's one game I'm going to, it's that one. It will be a war.

Also, I'm pretty sure Cal has never beaten Chip Kelly so, I have that as a definite loss. But I am going to be posting a more comprehensive response to this report once I finish my research. I am going through each team's roster and assessing the strengths and weaknesses of each unit. I have only done Arizona and I can honestly say that Arizona does not have any serious unit weaknesses. They lack depth at tackle and the interior OL is revamped. Actually Arizona looks a lot like Cal. They even have a QB named Plummer who is actually our QB's brother. I think whoever goes into that game healthier will probably win.

Off the top of my head I have Cal beating UW. I don't understand why folks think that Lake was the problem at UW and that things will turn around right away now that's he's been replaced. And their roster is not as strong as it was. The problem at UW is that several of their best assistant coaches are no longer there.

Again, off the top of my head, I think Cal wins at least 2 of 4 from OSU, WSU, Furd and Colorado. So, worst case, they have 5 wins. They get a sixth win by beating Arizona...sound familiar? Arizona could be in a similar situation, which is why it could be a war.

heartofthebear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I'm assuming the offense in spring ball shows and not the offense of the last few years:

Davis - W
UNLV - W
at ND - L
UofA- - close W (better, but still not at middle tier yet, and Cal wins at home)
at WSU - close L (actually I don't really know what to expect from WSU given coaching changes, etc. They were a good team last year. WSU wins at home)
Colorado - W (4-8 team that was decimated by key portal transfers, and seem to be going the wrong way)
Udub - W (the experts seem to love Udub, but I think this a transition year with new coaches, players, big portal losses, and Wilcox seems to have their number)
Oregon - close L (Wilcox seems to have their number, new coaching staff and other issues, but they are loaded with talent. Late enough in the season Ducks are starting to put in together. Cal could win this game)
at USC - L
at OSU - ? (though game to call - using my .5. I like the way Cal matches up. interestingly OSU Internet site has Cal as their key game and close)
Furd - W (Great QB, and a lot of rebuilding, Cal D rises to the occasion at home)
UCLA - L (sorry, we just don't seem to play them well)

I'm at 6.5. I can actually see 8 wins (OSU and UCLA) if the offense is is good, just not okay.

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As usual, your thinking is closest to mine on this. However, beware of pencilling an Arizona win. How many years have we done that and when will we learn. Arizona will be much improved this year. I agree it will be close and Cal could win. I'm calling that the most under-rated game of the year in Berkeley and, if there's one game I'm going to, it's that one. It will be a war.

Also, I'm pretty sure Cal has never beaten Chip Kelly so, I have that as a definite loss. But I am going to be posting a more comprehensive response to this report once I finish my research. I am going through each team's roster and assessing the strengths and weaknesses of each unit. I have only done Arizona and I can honestly say that Arizona does not have any serious unit weaknesses. They lack depth at tackle and the interior OL is revamped. Actually Arizona looks a lot like Cal. They even have a QB named Plummer who is actually our QB's brother. I think whoever goes into that game healthier will probably win.

Off the top of my head I have Cal beating UW. I don't understand why folks think that Lake was the problem at UW and that things will turn around right away now that's he's been replaced. And their roster is not as strong as it was. The problem at UW is that several of their best assistant coaches are no longer there.

Again, off the top of my head, I think Cal wins at least 2 of 4 from OSU, WSU, Furd and Colorado. So, worst case, they have 5 wins. They get a sixth win by beating Arizona...sound familiar? Arizona could be in a similar situation, which is why it could be a war.

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I again see a wide range of possibilities. We will be incredibly inexperienced with new players all over the field, especially on offense. It looks like the new guys are more talented (one reason I was frustrated we didn't play them last year), but the uncertainty level is high. A lot depends on Plummer and our hopefully now patched-up OL . And Musgrave, who hopefully now has all the pieces he needs to do what he wants. We could be really good, or maybe just too inexperienced….

The big picture is with USC, Oregon and UW breaking in new coaches and flexing for the NIL era, Utah strong and OSU, UCLA and Arizona ascendant (and Stanford in a low point), this is probably Wilcox's last good opportunity to make a leap into the top half of the conference and start getting some upward momentum in wins and recruiting. I just don't see it getting any easier. We need 7 or more. If we go 2-1 OOC we need to go at least 5-4 in conference which we haven't done since 2009 with Kevin Riley as our QB and we had Jahvid Best and Shane Vereen and Marvin Jones on offense (and Mike Mohammad , Mychal Kendrick's, Tyson Alualu, Cameron Jordan, Syd'Quan Thompson et al on defense).

If we don't get nine wins, there will be Ketchup on the Wall in Christ's dining room.

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Also, I'm pretty sure Cal has never beaten Chip Kelly so, I have that as a definite loss.

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November 30, 2019 @Pasadena
CALIFORNIA 28
UCLA 18

heartofthebear said:

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PaulCali said:

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Puts Cal at 5.5 wins, which seems about right to me. Sorry if already posted.

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/pac-12-football-over-under-win-totals

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I saw a similar report on CBS last week and I'm working on a more comprehensive response to these predictions, which, in my opinion, are based on typically poor analysis. It seems that the reports from these major sports networks are shoddy because the labor is not coming from a college football specialist and certainly not a pac-12 specialist. We used to have that from ESPN with Miller. But his blog doesn't exist anymore. It's the same thing even with the magazines like Lindy's and Athlon, both of which are produced in SEC country.

The reason why I say they are shoddy is that they almost always make the mistake of basing their predictions on last year's results or on the general historical quality of each team. Real analysis would be based on looking at each team's current roster and assessing it based on experience and performance level. It is my opinion that teams with lots of unit strengths and few unit weaknesses are going to do better. Arizona, for example, has had a massive roster turnover and now they have few real weaknesses. Problems they had on offense are largely addressed and have even become strengths.

I will be making some detailed posts on each team in the conference, modifying it as we find out more during fall practices.

While I agree that 5.5 is fairly accurate for Cal, the stated reasons are pretty lame. For example, they think Cal's roster is weaker than last season. I'm not sure about that. But Cal could have had as many as 9 or 10 wins last season had there been some very slight changes. To say that Cal was a 5 win team last season is a very shallow statement, especially in light of the Arizona debacle.

If Cal fixes their ST problems, it will make a big difference.

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Did any of you buy Street & Smith's College (or Pro) Yearbooks in your younger days? I doubt they're still around but that was my go-to during jr. high and high school. It showed up on the newsstands in August, but it seemed like the articles were written several months before and while the teams from each conference were covered by a journalist from that region, it was obvious they didn't break much of a sweat on research. They'd write about a guy in glowing terms and he'd quit or flunk out over the summer.

HearstMining said:

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heartofthebear said:

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PaulCali said:

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Puts Cal at 5.5 wins, which seems about right to me. Sorry if already posted.

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/pac-12-football-over-under-win-totals

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I saw a similar report on CBS last week and I'm working on a more comprehensive response to these predictions, which, in my opinion, are based on typically poor analysis. It seems that the reports from these major sports networks are shoddy because the labor is not coming from a college football specialist and certainly not a pac-12 specialist. We used to have that from ESPN with Miller. But his blog doesn't exist anymore. It's the same thing even with the magazines like Lindy's and Athlon, both of which are produced in SEC country.

The reason why I say they are shoddy is that they almost always make the mistake of basing their predictions on last year's results or on the general historical quality of each team. Real analysis would be based on looking at each team's current roster and assessing it based on experience and performance level. It is my opinion that teams with lots of unit strengths and few unit weaknesses are going to do better. Arizona, for example, has had a massive roster turnover and now they have few real weaknesses. Problems they had on offense are largely addressed and have even become strengths.

I will be making some detailed posts on each team in the conference, modifying it as we find out more during fall practices.

While I agree that 5.5 is fairly accurate for Cal, the stated reasons are pretty lame. For example, they think Cal's roster is weaker than last season. I'm not sure about that. But Cal could have had as many as 9 or 10 wins last season had there been some very slight changes. To say that Cal was a 5 win team last season is a very shallow statement, especially in light of the Arizona debacle.

If Cal fixes their ST problems, it will make a big difference.

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Did any of you buy Street & Smith's College (or Pro) Yearbooks in your younger days? I doubt they're still around but that was my go-to during jr. high and high school. It showed up on the newsstands in August, but it seemed like the articles were written several months before and while the teams from each conference were covered by a journalist from that region, it was obvious they didn't break much of a sweat on research. They'd write about a guy in glowing terms and he'd quit or flunk out over the summer.

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We now live in an age of better, quicker info, but I used to love those magazines!

HearstMining said:

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heartofthebear said:

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PaulCali said:

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Puts Cal at 5.5 wins, which seems about right to me. Sorry if already posted.

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/pac-12-football-over-under-win-totals

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I saw a similar report on CBS last week and I'm working on a more comprehensive response to these predictions, which, in my opinion, are based on typically poor analysis. It seems that the reports from these major sports networks are shoddy because the labor is not coming from a college football specialist and certainly not a pac-12 specialist. We used to have that from ESPN with Miller. But his blog doesn't exist anymore. It's the same thing even with the magazines like Lindy's and Athlon, both of which are produced in SEC country.

The reason why I say they are shoddy is that they almost always make the mistake of basing their predictions on last year's results or on the general historical quality of each team. Real analysis would be based on looking at each team's current roster and assessing it based on experience and performance level. It is my opinion that teams with lots of unit strengths and few unit weaknesses are going to do better. Arizona, for example, has had a massive roster turnover and now they have few real weaknesses. Problems they had on offense are largely addressed and have even become strengths.

I will be making some detailed posts on each team in the conference, modifying it as we find out more during fall practices.

While I agree that 5.5 is fairly accurate for Cal, the stated reasons are pretty lame. For example, they think Cal's roster is weaker than last season. I'm not sure about that. But Cal could have had as many as 9 or 10 wins last season had there been some very slight changes. To say that Cal was a 5 win team last season is a very shallow statement, especially in light of the Arizona debacle.

If Cal fixes their ST problems, it will make a big difference.

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Did any of you buy Street & Smith's College (or Pro) Yearbooks in your younger days? I doubt they're still around but that was my go-to during jr. high and high school. It showed up on the newsstands in August, but it seemed like the articles were written several months before and while the teams from each conference were covered by a journalist from that region, it was obvious they didn't break much of a sweat on research. They'd write about a guy in glowing terms and he'd quit or flunk out over the summer.

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Yup.
As bad as Lindy's and Athlon are, S&S was worse.

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heartofthebear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I'm assuming the offense in spring ball shows and not the offense of the last few years:

Davis - W
UNLV - W
at ND - L
UofA- - close W (better, but still not at middle tier yet, and Cal wins at home)
at WSU - close L (actually I don't really know what to expect from WSU given coaching changes, etc. They were a good team last year. WSU wins at home)
Colorado - W (4-8 team that was decimated by key portal transfers, and seem to be going the wrong way)
Udub - W (the experts seem to love Udub, but I think this a transition year with new coaches, players, big portal losses, and Wilcox seems to have their number)
Oregon - close L (Wilcox seems to have their number, new coaching staff and other issues, but they are loaded with talent. Late enough in the season Ducks are starting to put in together. Cal could win this game)
at USC - L
at OSU - ? (though game to call - using my .5. I like the way Cal matches up. interestingly OSU Internet site has Cal as their key game and close)
Furd - W (Great QB, and a lot of rebuilding, Cal D rises to the occasion at home)
UCLA - L (sorry, we just don't seem to play them well)

I'm at 6.5. I can actually see 8 wins (OSU and UCLA) if the offense is is good, just not okay.

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As usual, your thinking is closest to mine on this. However, beware of pencilling an Arizona win. How many years have we done that and when will we learn. Arizona will be much improved this year. I agree it will be close and Cal could win. I'm calling that the most under-rated game of the year in Berkeley and, if there's one game I'm going to, it's that one. It will be a war.

Also, I'm pretty sure Cal has never beaten Chip Kelly so, I have that as a definite loss. But I am going to be posting a more comprehensive response to this report once I finish my research. I am going through each team's roster and assessing the strengths and weaknesses of each unit. I have only done Arizona and I can honestly say that Arizona does not have any serious unit weaknesses. They lack depth at tackle and the interior OL is revamped. Actually Arizona looks a lot like Cal. They even have a QB named Plummer who is actually our QB's brother. I think whoever goes into that game healthier will probably win.

Off the top of my head I have Cal beating UW. I don't understand why folks think that Lake was the problem at UW and that things will turn around right away now that's he's been replaced. And their roster is not as strong as it was. The problem at UW is that several of their best assistant coaches are no longer there.

Again, off the top of my head, I think Cal wins at least 2 of 4 from OSU, WSU, Furd and Colorado. So, worst case, they have 5 wins. They get a sixth win by beating Arizona...sound familiar? Arizona could be in a similar situation, which is why it could be a war.

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I again see a wide range of possibilities. We will be incredibly inexperienced with new players all over the field, especially on offense. It looks like the new guys are more talented (one reason I was frustrated we didn't play them last year), but the uncertainty level is high. A lot depends on Plummer and our hopefully now patched-up OL . And Musgrave, who hopefully now has all the pieces he needs to do what he wants. We could be really good, or maybe just too inexperienced….

The big picture is with USC, Oregon and UW breaking in new coaches and flexing for the NIL era, Utah strong and OSU, UCLA and Arizona ascendant (and Stanford in a low point), this is probably Wilcox's last good opportunity to make a leap into the top half of the conference and start getting some upward momentum in wins and recruiting. I just don't see it getting any easier. We need 7 or more. If we go 2-1 OOC we need to go at least 5-4 in conference which we haven't done since 2009 with Kevin Riley as our QB and we had Jahvid Best and Shane Vereen and Marvin Jones on offense (and Mike Mohammad , Mychal Kendrick's, Tyson Alualu, Cameron Jordan, Syd'Quan Thompson et al on defense).

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7 wins (5 in conference) is asking a lot with a young team but I understand why you think they need to. Of course they could get 7 wins by winning a bowl, but I don't think that is what you meant.

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November 30, 2019 @Pasadena
CALIFORNIA 28
UCLA 18

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Okay, thank you.
1 time then.
And how many times has Chip blown out Cal?

heartofthebear said:

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calumnus said:

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heartofthebear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I'm assuming the offense in spring ball shows and not the offense of the last few years:

Davis - W
UNLV - W
at ND - L
UofA- - close W (better, but still not at middle tier yet, and Cal wins at home)
at WSU - close L (actually I don't really know what to expect from WSU given coaching changes, etc. They were a good team last year. WSU wins at home)
Colorado - W (4-8 team that was decimated by key portal transfers, and seem to be going the wrong way)
Udub - W (the experts seem to love Udub, but I think this a transition year with new coaches, players, big portal losses, and Wilcox seems to have their number)
Oregon - close L (Wilcox seems to have their number, new coaching staff and other issues, but they are loaded with talent. Late enough in the season Ducks are starting to put in together. Cal could win this game)
at USC - L
at OSU - ? (though game to call - using my .5. I like the way Cal matches up. interestingly OSU Internet site has Cal as their key game and close)
Furd - W (Great QB, and a lot of rebuilding, Cal D rises to the occasion at home)
UCLA - L (sorry, we just don't seem to play them well)

I'm at 6.5. I can actually see 8 wins (OSU and UCLA) if the offense is is good, just not okay.

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As usual, your thinking is closest to mine on this. However, beware of pencilling an Arizona win. How many years have we done that and when will we learn. Arizona will be much improved this year. I agree it will be close and Cal could win. I'm calling that the most under-rated game of the year in Berkeley and, if there's one game I'm going to, it's that one. It will be a war.

Also, I'm pretty sure Cal has never beaten Chip Kelly so, I have that as a definite loss. But I am going to be posting a more comprehensive response to this report once I finish my research. I am going through each team's roster and assessing the strengths and weaknesses of each unit. I have only done Arizona and I can honestly say that Arizona does not have any serious unit weaknesses. They lack depth at tackle and the interior OL is revamped. Actually Arizona looks a lot like Cal. They even have a QB named Plummer who is actually our QB's brother. I think whoever goes into that game healthier will probably win.

Off the top of my head I have Cal beating UW. I don't understand why folks think that Lake was the problem at UW and that things will turn around right away now that's he's been replaced. And their roster is not as strong as it was. The problem at UW is that several of their best assistant coaches are no longer there.

Again, off the top of my head, I think Cal wins at least 2 of 4 from OSU, WSU, Furd and Colorado. So, worst case, they have 5 wins. They get a sixth win by beating Arizona...sound familiar? Arizona could be in a similar situation, which is why it could be a war.

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I again see a wide range of possibilities. We will be incredibly inexperienced with new players all over the field, especially on offense. It looks like the new guys are more talented (one reason I was frustrated we didn't play them last year), but the uncertainty level is high. A lot depends on Plummer and our hopefully now patched-up OL . And Musgrave, who hopefully now has all the pieces he needs to do what he wants. We could be really good, or maybe just too inexperienced….

The big picture is with USC, Oregon and UW breaking in new coaches and flexing for the NIL era, Utah strong and OSU, UCLA and Arizona ascendant (and Stanford in a low point), this is probably Wilcox's last good opportunity to make a leap into the top half of the conference and start getting some upward momentum in wins and recruiting. I just don't see it getting any easier. We need 7 or more. If we go 2-1 OOC we need to go at least 5-4 in conference which we haven't done since 2009 with Kevin Riley as our QB and we had Jahvid Best and Shane Vereen and Marvin Jones on offense (and Mike Mohammad , Mychal Kendrick's, Tyson Alualu, Cameron Jordan, Syd'Quan Thompson et al on defense).

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7 wins (5 in conference) is asking a lot with a young team but I understand why you think they need to. Of course they could get 7 wins by winning a bowl, but I don't think that is what you meant.

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Yeah, I think it is a stretch, I wouldn't bet on it, but if we don't I think things get worse.

Here is the PAC-12 in Sagarin last year:
1. Utah #9
2. Oregon #23
3. UCLA #28
4. ASU #36
5. OSU #40
6. WSU #48
7. UW #58
8. Cal #60
9. USC #63
10. Furd #88
11. Colo #90
12. Arizona #112

I think we need to be in the #30-40 range to be in the Top half of the conference. Our offense was #67 in ypp and our defense was #50 in ypp (consistent with our #60 overall). I think we need something like the #50 offense and the #20 defense to achieve that. We were #6 in defense in Wilcox's second year, so there is hope there, though the best we have done since is #50 (the year after).

Asking for the #50 offense (#6 in the PAC-12) should not be asking a lot.

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November 30, 2019 @Pasadena
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UCLA 18

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Okay, thank you.
1 time then.
And how many times has Chip blown out Cal?

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Cal v Chip (as HC)
2009 3-42 L
2010 13-15 L
2011 15-43 L
2012 17-59 L
2018 7-37 L
2019 28-18 W
2020 10-34 L
2021 14-42 L

So we are 1-7 against Chip with 6 of the 7 losses being blowouts? He averages 36 points against us, we average 13 against him.

The W was recent (2019) and in their kitchen.

For the 2020 game, our coaches and admins grossly mishandled the Rona scenario (and again mishandled it on 2021 vs Arizona).

The 2021 game is what leads Cal fans to see the bruins as this unstoppable yogurtnaut. That may be so if our OL is missing 1 or 2 starters by the last regular season game (likely). This season, Bears O does have more experience and game options at RB, high ceiling young TEs, more speed & size at WR, Plummer might be a more consistent performer than CG, and Musgrave may be more comfortable in his playcalling duties in his third year. Bruin D has had a very high # of transfers this offseason; if they lack depth on that side of the ball, Cal O might impose their will in the second half. Cal D is clearly deeper and more experienced this year especially at the def. front 7 positions; hence they'll probably better contain the baby bear QB & RB. And the game is at Strawberry Canyon.

And don't dismiss the effect of the massive turkey weekend crowd!

Does this include if USC and UCLA go to the B1G?