ND QB out for the season

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10:11a, 9/12/22


Football gods, stop giving me hope!!!!
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10:18a, 9/12/22
From watching the Marshall highlights and reading ND boards, my impression is that Buchner was a raw but unrefined talent, and that he might have been the starter because of his mobility. The ND fans think that the backup might be a better passer.
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10:26a, 9/12/22
On the other hand:

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The hard part right now with this is (Angeli) took very limited real reps this fall in practice. Putting him behind this OL right now won't give him any time to actually learn anything. I honestly hope Pyne gets ND through Cal and the D gets a scoring turnover to get Angeli reps. I fully admit Pyne looked awful and lost coming in for Buchner this last week. It is a situation MD should never be in.

Pyne was named the starter for the Cal game.
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10:30a, 9/12/22
Backup QBs have a history of having career days against us...
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10:34a, 9/12/22
Pressure's on us now. This game is coming down to kickers. Or else we'll just get smoked because, well, Cal.
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In reply to oskithepimp • 11:17a, 9/12/22
oskithepimp said:
Pressure's on us now. This game is coming down to kickers. Or else we'll just get smoked because, well, Cal.


Special teams, field position, and turnovers.
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In reply to oskithepimp • 11:39a, 9/12/22
oskithepimp said:
Pressure's on us now. This game is coming down to kickers. Or else we'll just get smoked because, well, Cal.
Hopefully we learn not to give a QB with no experience a ton of time to scan the field lol.
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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 11:41a, 9/12/22
MinotStateBeav said:
oskithepimp said:
Pressure's on us now. This game is coming down to kickers. Or else we'll just get smoked because, well, Cal.
Hopefully we learn not to give a QB with no experience a ton of time to scan the field lol.
Not exactly no experience, but minimal for sure...

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11:47a, 9/12/22
Cal's defense and Coach Sirmon can not give this new QB any time at all to get adjusted or feel "comfortable" during this game. Our defense can and should create enough havoc to cause turnovers, score points and win this game.
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In reply to TouchedTheAxeIn82 • 11:47a, 9/12/22
This sounds like us with Chase. Chase had tons of mobility (nobody contests that), but people last season were clamoring for Kai Millner to have a shot at throwing because he allegedly had a better arm
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In reply to TouchedTheAxeIn82 • 11:57a, 9/12/22
TouchedTheAxeIn82 said:
From watching the Marshall highlights and reading ND boards, my impression is that Buchner was a raw but unrefined talent, and that he might have been the starter because of his mobility. The ND fans think that the backup might be a better passer.
Backup looked about as big as Rudy.
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In reply to TouchedTheAxeIn82 • 12:11p, 9/12/22
TouchedTheAxeIn82 said:
On the other hand:

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The hard part right now with this is (Angeli) took very limited real reps this fall in practice. Putting him behind this OL right now won't give him any time to actually learn anything. I honestly hope Pyne gets ND through Cal and the D gets a scoring turnover to get Angeli reps. I fully admit Pyne looked awful and lost coming in for Buchner this last week. It is a situation MD should never be in.

Pyne was named the starter for the Cal game.
Pyne went to New Canaan HS in New Canaan Ct. New Canaan is a high income suburb of Stamford/Greenwhich. Class L (second largest to class LL) in a state that is not serious about fb. He was a known quantity coming out - probably 3*. .

He was listed as a pro-style qb in hs - 6'1" 175# - on a reasonably successful team in their league. ND lists him at 5'11" 198#. Reasonably strong arm, some mobility. No idea of his speed.

I expect him to run around a lot...and tear us apart. The game will be in the hands of our DEs. They must contain him and not get out of control on the rush. Being short(er), he will try to duck under the rushers and fire over the middle. Let's see if Sirmon mixes up the looks to confuse him.

I thought we had a good chance with Buchner in there - he looked confused, himself - neither fish nor fowl as a qb. Pyne gives us a better chance, since he couldn't beat out Buchner to start the year. But, we have a habit of making replacements shine. Our dbs and lbs must maintain discipline and play their spots.
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In reply to KoreAmBear • 12:24p, 9/12/22
KoreAmBear said:
TouchedTheAxeIn82 said:
From watching the Marshall highlights and reading ND boards, my impression is that Buchner was a raw but unrefined talent, and that he might have been the starter because of his mobility. The ND fans think that the backup might be a better passer.
Backup looked about as big as Rudy.


1. Rudy Giuliani?
2. Rudy Ruettiger?
3. Sean Astin?




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In reply to pingpong2 • 12:28p, 9/12/22
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Football gods, stop giving me hope!!!!


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In reply to Rushinbear • 12:32p, 9/12/22
Rushinbear said:
TouchedTheAxeIn82 said:
On the other hand:

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The hard part right now with this is (Angeli) took very limited real reps this fall in practice. Putting him behind this OL right now won't give him any time to actually learn anything. I honestly hope Pyne gets ND through Cal and the D gets a scoring turnover to get Angeli reps. I fully admit Pyne looked awful and lost coming in for Buchner this last week. It is a situation MD should never be in.

Pyne was named the starter for the Cal game.
Pyne went to New Canaan HS in New Canaan Ct. New Canaan is a high income suburb of Stamford/Greenwhich. Class L (second largest to class LL) in a state that is not serious about fb. He was a known quantity coming out - probably 3*. .

He was listed as a pro-style qb in hs - 6'1" 175# - on a reasonably successful team in their league. ND lists him at 5'11" 198#. Reasonably strong arm, some mobility. No idea of his speed.

I expect him to run around a lot...and tear us apart. The game will be in the hands of our DEs. They must contain him and not get out of control on the rush. Being short(er), he will try to duck under the rushers and fire over the middle. Let's see if Sirmon mixes up the looks to confuse him.

I thought we had a good chance with Buchner in there - he looked confused, himself - neither fish nor fowl as a qb. Pyne gives us a better chance, since he couldn't beat out Buchner to start the year. But, we have a habit of making replacements shine. Our dbs and lbs must maintain discipline and play their spots.
I have friends who know Drew. He had a surprisingly strong offer list. I agree, CT and really the northeast generally are not filled with strong competition. PA being the exception if you consider it the Northeast.
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In reply to bluehenbear • 12:44p, 9/12/22
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Backup QBs have a history of having career days against us...
This times a million.
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In reply to bearister • 12:45p, 9/12/22
bearister said:
pingpong2 said:


Football gods, stop giving me hope!!!!


God loves the Irish, not the Fake Irish.


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In reply to oski003 • 12:49p, 9/12/22
oski003 said:
bearister said:
pingpong2 said:


Football gods, stop giving me hope!!!!


God loves the Irish, not the Fake Irish.


The well known Carr surname has long existed in Ireland, and originates from several distinct sources. In County Galway it was an Anglicization of O Carra, a patronymic name referring to a descendant of Carra; the word Carra in turn meant "spear." in County Donegal, Carr was the Anglicized form of Mac Giolla Chathair.


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In reply to bearister • 1:33p, 9/12/22
All of the above.
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1:50p, 9/12/22
We have no pass rush.
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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 1:59p, 9/12/22
MinotStateBeav said:
oskithepimp said:
Pressure's on us now. This game is coming down to kickers. Or else we'll just get smoked because, well, Cal.
Hopefully we learn not to give a QB with no experience a ton of time to scan the field lol.

How about we just tell our pass rushers to "Grab some Pyne, meat!"
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2:10p, 9/12/22

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.but I believe his people left The Church and now in the eyes of The Almighty, he is little more than an Orangeman banging a drum on July 12 in honor of Prod King Billy.
Up a long ladder
And down a short rope
To hell with King Billy
And god bless the Pope
Ever hopeful and it seems like forever.
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2:28p, 9/12/22
Unless our DL could consistently pressure opposing QBs without blitzing, then it doesn't matter if they lose their starting QB, not with the kind of talent and depth Notre Dame has.
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2:37p, 9/12/22


Drew Pyne Is In Better Shape And Ready To Battle


From the article:

"Pyne has six total games of experience under his belt entering the 2022 season. He played in four games and attempted three passes as a true freshman in 2020. He saw action in just two games last year, but had far more extensive playing experience.

He helped Notre Dame beat Wisconsin in Chicago's Shamrock Series game and then came off the bench for an ineffective Jack Coan a week later in Notre Dame's only loss of the season to Cincinnati. That taste of the field and this year's chance to compete with Tyler Buchner to become Notre Dame's next starting quarterback gave him a different mindset this year. "


He came off the bench against Marshall and threw an INT. He finished 3/6 for 20 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT.

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In reply to KoreAmBear • 3:43p, 9/12/22
KoreAmBear said:
All of the above.


Then that explains why the ND band announced that this song is on its halftime setlist:

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In reply to bearister • 5:24p, 9/12/22
bearister said:
KoreAmBear said:
All of the above.


Then that explains why the ND band announced that this song is on its halftime setlist:

And this.

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6:10p, 9/12/22
Damn, I must have the same musical taste as Bearister and Koreambear, great rudy choices!
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In reply to pingpong2 • 10:33a, 9/13/22
pingpong2 said:


Football gods, stop giving me hope!!!!


The way the Cal OLine protected Plummer vs UNLV (NOT!) we would need the entire ND Defensive line to be out injured to have a chance against ND.

I was so disappointed seeing how poorly the Cal OLine blocked. One play where Plummer was sacked in the 1st Quarter (our good quarter) UNLV had a 3 man rush plus a safety coming in. Against these 4 rushers Cal had 5 Offensive line men.

The Left OLine member blocked the incoming safety. The Right OLine member blocked his opposing rusher. Two OLine members on the Center Left double teamed one of of two remaining rushers

Unfortunately the last remaining Cal OLine member was clueless. First he began to help the two Cal blockers who were already double teaming their rusher.
When the clueless Cal OLine member realized that he was not needed to triple-team block. He looked to his Right and saw the unblocked UNLV rusher blow past him and sack Plummer.

I couldn't believe what I had just seen. So I backed up the tape and rewatched it 3 times. The Clueless Cal OLine member was totally lost on the play. He had opened a clear path to Plummer by attempting to triple team a rusher who was already being double teamed.

Later in the game I was so disappointed when the Cal OLine was apparently very easily pushed back by an equal number of UNLV rushers. The result was eithe a sack or a hurry. Each time Plummer was getting pummeled. The TV announcers were critical of the Cal blockers saying that Plummer was getting beaten up on each play. And that would take its toll on any QB
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