Cal vs Coogs Game Thread

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Strykur
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fat_slice said:

Does Musgrave have any previous experience? Seems like this is his first job out of high school.
How did somebody like him get NFL jobs for 20 years
sycasey
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Well . . . it could be worse.
calumnus
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fat_slice said:

Does Musgrave have any previous experience? Seems like this is his first job out of high school.


He is one of those guys that keeps getting hired, then quickly fired, takes a QB coaching position, rince and repeat. This is his now tied for his longest tenure as an OC in one place.
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bearsandgiants said:

We should go for a 20 yard play here and either get first down and a kick or leave wassou with one play. But we won't.
was thinking the same thing. Plummer and whole OL rolls right, throws a pass to the sideline that only our WR has a chance , worst case? incompletion with 8 seconds left giving them the ball at the 50 yard line. Best case we convert and use our timeouts and get close for a FG

but naw. lets just punt (equally risky of a block IMO)
nwbear84
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Run outside with Ott. How hard is that?
Strykur
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sycasey said:

Well . . . it could be worse.
This game is flying by, but we had the ball 18 minutes to Wazzu's 12, if we can keep that going we can wear them down.
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This offensive coaching staff is really out-of-tune and inept. We got the ball back with 1:47 and 3 time-out. First play 9 yards. Second play doesn't get run until there is 1:06 left on the clock. Even Plummer looked annoyed that the play call didn't get to him until probably 1:15 left. 2nd down/3rd down plays are duds, timeout called either before 3rd down or punt of 4th down. I ask you why not call a time-out when you didn't get the play in and the clock ran down to 1:06. We have two TO's left at the end of the half. Why, why?

Withstanding that, why is it that we seem to run plays on 3rd down where the receiver is literally 2-3 yards short of the first down. We have some nice players, but not many are going to pull out the YAC on these pass plays.

You have a player that is better running outside of the tackles, but we seem to run him inside of tackles where the lanes tend to clog up. We've seen his vision and shiftiness outside the tackles. Yet, we seem to stay away from this in spite of the fact he pilled up nearly 300 yards last week with most of those of yards coming off-tackle.

I know the OL has problems, but its like Musgrave and the coaches don't recognize the issues. I really think Musgrave being on the sidelines is a huge detriment to seeing the game. The guys up in the booth clearly aren't able to communicate things to him efficiently. Shouldn't the coaches game plan to the player's strength? Musgrave, et all, seem to want to force their style despite not having the players to do it. It's just maddening.
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nwbear84 said:

Run outside with Ott. How hard is that?


Why run for 8 yards before getting tackled when you can just run for one? This is the offensive efficiency I think Musgrave is going for.
calumnus
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Knowlton talking about our "explosive offense"? Is he being sarcastic?

Basketball and Fox "exciting basketball "?
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Arcadiabear said:

bearsandgiants said:

We should go for a 20 yard play here and either get first down and a kick or leave wassou with one play. But we won't.
was thinking the same thing. Plummer and whole OL rolls right, throws a pass to the sideline that only our WR has a chance , worst case? incompletion with 8 seconds left giving them the ball at the 50 yard line. Best case we convert and use our timeouts and get close for a FG

but naw. lets just punt (equally risky of a block IMO)


And didn't even punt it in bounds to make the returner have to catch it.
Wang24
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I hope we continue to attack the middle or behind the LBs…. And do not get away from running the ball. ! go bears!!
Arcadiabear
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In a well run organization.

Wilcox would have multiple connections with some of the brightest coaching minds on offense, some of them would beg for an opportunity, and Wilcox would hire the ones that shows the most potential.

Knowlton would likewise have a rolodex, consult with wilcox, and work tirelessly with our head coach to identify promising OCs who just needs a break from the G5 or from a position coach.

iam sure this is NOT happening. Our coaches are too comfortable, they have jobs for life. 5 years or mediocrity leads to a 6th and a 7th year.

WE NEED TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. i wouldn't have my job if i underperform like our offensive coaching staff week in and week out
Econ141
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Please don't show the you see Berkeley commercial... I'm sick of it.
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cal93 said:

This offensive coaching staff is really out-of-tune and inept. We got the ball back with 1:47 and 3 time-out. First play 9 yards. Second play doesn't get run until there is 1:06 left on the clock. Even Plummer looked annoyed that the play call didn't get to him until probably 1:15 left. 2nd down/3rd down plays are duds, timeout called either before 3rd down or punt of 4th down. I ask you why not call a time-out when you didn't get the play in and the clock ran down to 1:06. We have two TO's left at the end of the half. Why, why?

Withstanding that, why is it that we seem to run plays on 3rd down where the receiver is literally 2-3 yards short of the first down. We have some nice players, but not many are going to pull out the YAC on these pass plays.

You have a player that is better running outside of the tackles, but we seem to run him inside of tackles where the lanes tend to clog up. We've seen his vision and shiftiness outside the tackles. Yet, we seem to stay away from this in spite of the fact he pilled up nearly 300 yards last week with most of those of yards coming off-tackle.

I know the OL has problems, but its like Musgrave and the coaches don't recognize the issues. I really think Musgrave being on the sidelines is a huge detriment to seeing the game. The guys up in the booth clearly aren't able to communicate things to him efficiently. Shouldn't the coaches game plan to the player's strength? Musgrave, et all, seem to want to force their style despite not having the players to do it. It's just maddening.
This is the true problem. I don't care if its not old-school, he's gotta get off the sidelines and into the booth. He just doesn't see the field well. And if that doesn't fix things, then the issue is him
Golden One
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Strykur said:

fat_slice said:

Does Musgrave have any previous experience? Seems like this is his first job out of high school.
How did somebody like him get NFL jobs for 20 years


Let's not forget who hired him at Cal.
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eastcoastcal said:

cal93 said:

This offensive coaching staff is really out-of-tune and inept. We got the ball back with 1:47 and 3 time-out. First play 9 yards. Second play doesn't get run until there is 1:06 left on the clock. Even Plummer looked annoyed that the play call didn't get to him until probably 1:15 left. 2nd down/3rd down plays are duds, timeout called either before 3rd down or punt of 4th down. I ask you why not call a time-out when you didn't get the play in and the clock ran down to 1:06. We have two TO's left at the end of the half. Why, why?

Withstanding that, why is it that we seem to run plays on 3rd down where the receiver is literally 2-3 yards short of the first down. We have some nice players, but not many are going to pull out the YAC on these pass plays.

You have a player that is better running outside of the tackles, but we seem to run him inside of tackles where the lanes tend to clog up. We've seen his vision and shiftiness outside the tackles. Yet, we seem to stay away from this in spite of the fact he pilled up nearly 300 yards last week with most of those of yards coming off-tackle.

I know the OL has problems, but its like Musgrave and the coaches don't recognize the issues. I really think Musgrave being on the sidelines is a huge detriment to seeing the game. The guys up in the booth clearly aren't able to communicate things to him efficiently. Shouldn't the coaches game plan to the player's strength? Musgrave, et all, seem to want to force their style despite not having the players to do it. It's just maddening.
This is the true problem. I don't care if its not old-school, he's gotta get off the sidelines and into the booth. He just doesn't see the field well. And if that doesn't fix things, then the issue is him
the issue is him, period. Hes not a newbie, we could have made that conclusion last year, or the year before
bearsandgiants
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fat_slice said:

Please don't show the you see Berkeley commercial... I'm sick of it.


The longest running ad in TV history? It's legendary!
bearsandgiants
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Arcadiabear said:

eastcoastcal said:

cal93 said:

This offensive coaching staff is really out-of-tune and inept. We got the ball back with 1:47 and 3 time-out. First play 9 yards. Second play doesn't get run until there is 1:06 left on the clock. Even Plummer looked annoyed that the play call didn't get to him until probably 1:15 left. 2nd down/3rd down plays are duds, timeout called either before 3rd down or punt of 4th down. I ask you why not call a time-out when you didn't get the play in and the clock ran down to 1:06. We have two TO's left at the end of the half. Why, why?

Withstanding that, why is it that we seem to run plays on 3rd down where the receiver is literally 2-3 yards short of the first down. We have some nice players, but not many are going to pull out the YAC on these pass plays.

You have a player that is better running outside of the tackles, but we seem to run him inside of tackles where the lanes tend to clog up. We've seen his vision and shiftiness outside the tackles. Yet, we seem to stay away from this in spite of the fact he pilled up nearly 300 yards last week with most of those of yards coming off-tackle.

I know the OL has problems, but its like Musgrave and the coaches don't recognize the issues. I really think Musgrave being on the sidelines is a huge detriment to seeing the game. The guys up in the booth clearly aren't able to communicate things to him efficiently. Shouldn't the coaches game plan to the player's strength? Musgrave, et all, seem to want to force their style despite not having the players to do it. It's just maddening.
This is the true problem. I don't care if its not old-school, he's gotta get off the sidelines and into the booth. He just doesn't see the field well. And if that doesn't fix things, then the issue is him
the issue is him, period. Hes not a newbie, we could have made that conclusion last year, or the year before


I don't know if he needs to be up in the box, he just needs a mobile phone and a Bearinsider account.
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bearsandgiants said:

fat_slice said:

Please don't show the you see Berkeley commercial... I'm sick of it.


The longest running ad in TV history? It's legendary!
There were cheerleaders in that ad.
GoCal80
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So far it's looking like last week's improved offense was an anomaly. What bothers me the most though is that the first half was really boring.
bearister
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Arizona St. and 24.5 points is tempting.
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“I love Cal deeply. What are the directions to The Portal from Sproul Plaza?”
Nofado
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We need a stop. 2 score lead is going to be hard to overcome.
heartofthebear
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It's all about home field this year so far in the conference.
Only road wins involved top teams vs. bottom teams and the game where WSU couged it vs. Oregon.
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GoCal80 said:

So far it's looking like last week's improved offense was an anomaly. What bothers me the most though is that the first half was really boring.

Like the last Niners game.
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Nofado
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Musgrave is old. He can't see that far if he's in the booth
Strykur
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Well now Wazzu opens it up
Nofado
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Great ... just great....
Nofado
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We are rushing 4... and still can't cover anyone
89Bear
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Ball game
bencgilmore
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perhaps fewer halftime adjustments next time
Golden One
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Great halftime defensive adjustments by Cal!
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89Bear said:

Ball game


These guys did blow a big lead just a week ago
Econ141
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Nofado said:

We need a stop. 2 score lead is going to be hard to overcome.


Welp - we are toast
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89Bear said:

Ball game


I wish this weren't true but how often has Wilcox come back from a 2 score deficit in the second half?
HateRed
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Year after year , it's the same story. It doesn't matter who the players are and it doesn't matter who the coaches are. I hope we can come back.
 
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