For the same reason Texas and Oklahoma almost joined the Pac . . . because they might make more money with us. Now if we only had a commissioner who could make that pitch, and then make it a reality.Big Dog said:
I don't "think", I KNOW that we are not good enough for Nebraska. Why woudl anyone take. a massive payout just so they can do a home-and-home in the Paloose?
Cal Strong! said:For the same reason Texas and Oklahoma almost joined the Pac . . . because they might make more money with us. Now if we only had a commissioner who could make that pitch, and then make it a reality.Big Dog said:
I don't "think", I KNOW that we are not good enough for Nebraska. Why woudl anyone take. a massive payout just so they can do a home-and-home in the Paloose?
Plus, they would get an equal share with us -- whereas they get a partial share of the profits with the B1G.
GOLDEN said:
Pac-12 is done as we know it. Everyone is holding closed door meetings now. Oregon and Washington planning moves after Colorado announcement.
In the past several hours every PAC school not named Cal and Stanford have reached out to the B12.
— MHver3 (@MHver3) July 26, 2023
MTbear22 said:And how much money is our independent media contract going to pay?Strykur said:We (along with the Trees) go independent for a while until the next cycle.StillNoStanfurdium said:Sure, but unless Cal has a Big-10 invite lined up this could also be the domino to doom our football program via mass Pac exodus.HearstMining said:
If they go, adios muchachos. Personally, it never really felt like they were part of the Pac-xx anyway.
It seems like it's B1G or bust for us.Econ141 said:
Lol:In the past several hours every PAC school not named Cal and Stanford have reached out to the B12.
— MHver3 (@MHver3) July 26, 2023
If you can't see the difference between leaving the Big 12 years ago for greener (ie, cash money) pastures and bolting from the BiG, Cal Strong is weaker than I thought. But note, Texas wanted to keep its own cable feed and more money (than equal sharing), which was a non-starter for the Pac.Cal Strong! said:For the same reason Texas and Oklahoma almost joined the Pac . . . because they might make more money with us. Now if we only had a commissioner who could make that pitch, and then make it a reality.Big Dog said:
I don't "think", I KNOW that we are not good enough for Nebraska. Why woudl anyone take. a massive payout just so they can do a home-and-home in the Paloose?
Plus, they would get an equal share with us -- whereas they get a partial share of the profits with the B1G.
Not to mention having their own religion. But then, many would argue that the Crimson Tide has that, too.Big Dog said:
I don't "think", I KNOW that we are not good enough for Nebraska. Why woudl anyone take. a massive payout just so they can do a home-and-home in the Paloose?
btw: Nebraska is under contract with the BiG. Just can't call them and make them an offer without having the BiG sue the Pac for tortious interference.
fwiw: I always thought BYU was an interesting case. Heck, they have their own cable network.
75bear said:It seems like it's B1G or bust for us.Econ141 said:
Lol:In the past several hours every PAC school not named Cal and Stanford have reached out to the B12.
— MHver3 (@MHver3) July 26, 2023
Big Dog said:If you can't see the difference between leaving the Big 12 years ago for greener (ie, cash money) pastures and bolting from the BiG, Cal Strong is weaker than I thought. But note, Texas wanted to keep its own cable feed and more money (than equal sharing), which was a non-starter for the Pac.Cal Strong! said:For the same reason Texas and Oklahoma almost joined the Pac . . . because they might make more money with us. Now if we only had a commissioner who could make that pitch, and then make it a reality.Big Dog said:
I don't "think", I KNOW that we are not good enough for Nebraska. Why woudl anyone take. a massive payout just so they can do a home-and-home in the Paloose?
Plus, they would get an equal share with us -- whereas they get a partial share of the profits with the B1G.
Laughable. Furd prof thinks it's ok to be a Communist as long as you're not a spy? Being a Communist infects everything you do! Good thing that Furd prof is retired; better he should sequester himself.SonomanA1 said:
How much would CO have to pay if they leave the Pac-12? Rather than worry about CO tomorrow, I think I might go see Oppenheimer and decide if he was really a communist.
"The evidence of Oppenheimer's membership in the Communist Party in the 1930s is 'overwhelming,' but it doesn't mean he was a spy, says a retired Stanford history professor."
Rushinbear said:Laughable. Furd prof thinks it's ok to be a Communist as long as you're not a spy? Being a Communist infects everything you do! Good thing that Furd prof is retired; better he should sequester himself.SonomanA1 said:
How much would CO have to pay if they leave the Pac-12? Rather than worry about CO tomorrow, I think I might go see Oppenheimer and decide if he was really a communist.
"The evidence of Oppenheimer's membership in the Communist Party in the 1930s is 'overwhelming,' but it doesn't mean he was a spy, says a retired Stanford history professor."
Sorry, but my dear grandmother taught me that silence equals consent.
So, you're not responding to the substance? Looks like silence to me.eastbayyoungbear said:Rushinbear said:Laughable. Furd prof thinks it's ok to be a Communist as long as you're not a spy? Being a Communist infects everything you do! Good thing that Furd prof is retired; better he should sequester himself.SonomanA1 said:
How much would CO have to pay if they leave the Pac-12? Rather than worry about CO tomorrow, I think I might go see Oppenheimer and decide if he was really a communist.
"The evidence of Oppenheimer's membership in the Communist Party in the 1930s is 'overwhelming,' but it doesn't mean he was a spy, says a retired Stanford history professor."
Sorry, but my dear grandmother taught me that silence equals consent.
Geez wake me up when it's no longer 1951.
SoFlaBear said:
So the dominos are finally starting to fall.
What that tells me is that Colorado thinks the Pac 12 media deal is not going to live up to expectations, or that enough pieces of the Pac 12 are going to jump to the B1G that whatever is left is going to be a glorified Mountain West conference (or conceivably both).
If I were a betting man, I'd wager that Utah will follow suit.
I'm not as sure about Arizona and Arizona State, but without the SoCal schools, the conference is less attractive to them geographically. On the other hand, I keep wondering why the Arizona schools aren't in the B1G jumping discussion. A lot of the grandparents in those snowy, midwestern states retire to or snowbird in Arizona.
— 🌶️🌵 Garrett 🌵🌶️ (@GJMcClintock) July 26, 2023
Pac-12 CEO Group has called a meeting for this afternoon. The conference ADs will be included on the call.
— John Canzano (@johncanzanobft) July 27, 2023
A member of the CEO Group told me they will “discuss the opportunity to ‘trade up’ through expansion given Colorado's decision.”
More: https://t.co/mttoO1RWbB
MTbear22 said:
Canzano following the predicted course of events:— 🌶️🌵 Garrett 🌵🌶️ (@GJMcClintock) July 26, 2023Pac-12 CEO Group has called a meeting for this afternoon. The conference ADs will be included on the call.
— John Canzano (@johncanzanobft) July 27, 2023
A member of the CEO Group told me they will “discuss the opportunity to ‘trade up’ through expansion given Colorado's decision.”
More: https://t.co/mttoO1RWbB
oskithepimp said:
Does the watered down Pac-Whatever still get a bid to the CFB playoff? If so, maybe our path to the Rose Bowl just got a little easier...
But in reality, I'm sure we'll **** it up.
Knowlton in the meeting, "I think the key question here is, when will ice hockey become a Pac10 varsity sport?"Econ141 said:MTbear22 said:
Canzano following the predicted course of events:— 🌶️🌵 Garrett 🌵🌶️ (@GJMcClintock) July 26, 2023Pac-12 CEO Group has called a meeting for this afternoon. The conference ADs will be included on the call.
— John Canzano (@johncanzanobft) July 27, 2023
A member of the CEO Group told me they will “discuss the opportunity to ‘trade up’ through expansion given Colorado's decision.”
More: https://t.co/mttoO1RWbB
Great! The conference ADs will be there so Jim can voice the opinion of an original member of this conference and the supposed flagship state university! I am sure he will be a strong voice for our interests...
I mean why do I feel horror when there is a mention including our AD in important matters?
Stanford = Cardinal = Red = CommunistRushinbear said:So, you're not responding to the substance? Looks like silence to me.eastbayyoungbear said:Rushinbear said:Laughable. Furd prof thinks it's ok to be a Communist as long as you're not a spy? Being a Communist infects everything you do! Good thing that Furd prof is retired; better he should sequester himself.SonomanA1 said:
How much would CO have to pay if they leave the Pac-12? Rather than worry about CO tomorrow, I think I might go see Oppenheimer and decide if he was really a communist.
"The evidence of Oppenheimer's membership in the Communist Party in the 1930s is 'overwhelming,' but it doesn't mean he was a spy, says a retired Stanford history professor."
Sorry, but my dear grandmother taught me that silence equals consent.
Geez wake me up when it's no longer 1951.
They just beat the UC Berkeley Bears when they were awful, whereas, Utah always crushes the Bears.Anarchistbear said:
Colorado was a cultural fit but not a football fit. They didn't add much nor compete like Utah has.
Not proof, but take this report from SI for what its worth.HateRed said:
Where is the proof that Utah just announced that it's staying in the PAC?
Quote:
At least one of the other three so-called "Four Corners" schools Arizona, Arizona State, or Utah may go along with Colorado to the Big 12, according to SI's Pat Forde.
The belief is that the Big 12 will use Colorado's move as leverage to lure at least one more current Pac-12 member to its ranks amid its own ambitious expansion plans.
The school most likely to entertain such a move? That appears to be Arizona, whose president has stated in recent weeks that, although he remains loyal to the Pac-12, that seemed to depend on the conference's ability to command a media rights deal worth staying for. In the apparent absence of such a deal with a month to go before the season, Arizona could see joining the Big 12 as the more lucrative move.
For its part, Utah has stated that it has no intention of leaving the Pac-12 and is happy to wait out the process of seeing what the next media deal looks like.
We're not Notre Dame or even BYU (who is no longer independent). Cal being an independent would not generate the funds to pay the interest on CMS.Strykur said:We (along with the Trees) go independent for a while until the next cycle.StillNoStanfurdium said:Sure, but unless Cal has a Big-10 invite lined up this could also be the domino to doom our football program via mass Pac exodus.HearstMining said:
If they go, adios muchachos. Personally, it never really felt like they were part of the Pac-xx anyway.
MTbear22 said:
Canzano following the predicted course of events:— 🌶️🌵 Garrett 🌵🌶️ (@GJMcClintock) July 26, 2023Pac-12 CEO Group has called a meeting for this afternoon. The conference ADs will be included on the call.
— John Canzano (@johncanzanobft) July 27, 2023
A member of the CEO Group told me they will “discuss the opportunity to ‘trade up’ through expansion given Colorado's decision.”
More: https://t.co/mttoO1RWbB
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— Cole Cubelic (@colecubelic) July 27, 2023
