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Holy cow - I mean at this point we have to be very nervous. If they only take 2, we might be toast forever? Hope they find it in their kind hearts to take us.

Econ141 said:

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Holy cow - I mean at this point we have to be very nervous. If they only take 2, we might be toast forever? Hope they find it in their kind hearts to take us.

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Are you a negative plant? Is posting the worst case scenario over and over again therapeutic?

Econ141 said:

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Holy cow - I mean at this point we have to be very nervous. If they only take 2, we might be toast forever? Hope they find it in their kind hearts to take us.

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20 is actually easier to manage with scheduling than 18.

Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Hell I'd take a third or even quarter share if there was a plan to get to full. This is the long play for the entire existence of Cal athletics as we know it.

eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

Right? UCLA would block the move if they still had to pay once/if we got in.

Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

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Cal should tell UCLA all payments immediately end if Cal enters the B1G, regardless of share.

golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

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JFC do you want the B1G or not?

Strykur said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

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JFC do you want the B1G or not?

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Let me clear, if Cal gets an invite to the B1G they should take it, regardless of stipulations, as long as the stipulation is not a permanent lesser share.

Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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First of all, the issues are separate. Calimony is a UC Regents issue.

Second, I'd say yes, we sure would. The point is to make up for a deficit caused by UCLA leaving the PAC. If we get invited to the Big 10 at less than a full share, that deficit would still exist until we moved up to a full share, and therefore in both the spirit and the letter, I believe Calimony would need to be paid.

It'll be up the Regents though.

golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

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JFC do you want the B1G or not?

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Let me clear, if Cal gets an invite to the B1G they should take it, regardless of stipulations, as long as the stipulation is not a permanent lesser share.

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100% yes.

maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

---

Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

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JFC do you want the B1G or not?

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Let me clear, if Cal gets an invite to the B1G they should take it, regardless of stipulations, as long as the stipulation is not a permanent lesser share.

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100% yes.

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We take any B1G offer now, re-negotiate later.

Strykur said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

---

Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

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JFC do you want the B1G or not?

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Let me clear, if Cal gets an invite to the B1G they should take it, regardless of stipulations, as long as the stipulation is not a permanent lesser share.

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100% yes.

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We take any B1G offer now, re-negotiate later.

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After a few Natty's, they will have to renegotiate.

philly1121 said:

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Right? UCLA would block the move if they still had to pay once/if we got in.

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UCLA started this mess, they can help make it right. I don't think they can "block" anything as they're not even in the league yet.

*If* this went down teams will need so much more depth to get through the season:
12 regular season games
1 conference semifinal
1 conference championship
3 possible CFP games

That's an NFL regular season, teams will need to rely on a deeper roster of players to make it through when guys inevitably go down or shut down their season for pro prospects

How reliable is the reporting? Article makes it sound like Cal and Furd have reached out.

CarmelBear said:

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How reliable is the reporting? Article makes it sound like Cal and Furd have reached out.

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Dan Wetzel is a legitimate reporter. That's not what I took away from it -- what I took away from it was that the Big 10 has interest, they don't want to be seen as "predatory" (which is hilarious since they're the ones that knifed the PAC in the first place) so they're doing their due diligence now, and will hopefully offer when/if the PAC dies.

Looks like 4 Pac teams to Big 10 at some point. Remaining 4 corners to Big 12.

Too bad for WSU and Oregon State. They are so screwed it will destroy their athletic programs. Portal will go nuts at those two schools,

At least some possible good news!


"Should one (Arizona) or all three programs defect, the Pac-12 could be down to as few as six members with Oregon, Washington, California and Stanford the most prominent universities remaining. (Oregon State, Washington State are the others.) At that point, it may become more prudent for the Big Ten to increase efforts towards acquiring the best remaining programs."


https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-examining-potential-additions-of-oregon-washington-california-and-stanford-to-conference/

Is it possible we just go full "back to the future" with a Pac 8 cohort as the B10 West (bringing along OSU/WSU)? Bust out the Roth/Muncie throwbacks and party like its 1976?

FSU president Rick McCullough: "We are one of the best media-valued teams in the United States. We, along with Clemson and others, help to carry the value of media rights in the ACC. No offense to my colleagues. That's just the numbers."

— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) August 2, 2023

savage take by FSU on state of their GOR with ACC. and they are 100% correct.

I really hope this is true. But we've been hearing this for a year now and it feels so close, yet so far away and can still end disastrously for Cal. It would really suck to get our hopes up for so long and have it ripped away right at the end.

And, unfortunately, everything is going the most unpredictable outcome projected. A deal so bad that the Big XII offer looks pretty good. Do the 4 corner schools bolt? If so, does that force the B1G's hand?

Everything seems to rest in Utah's hands right now.

Strykur said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

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JFC do you want the B1G or not?

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Let me clear, if Cal gets an invite to the B1G they should take it, regardless of stipulations, as long as the stipulation is not a permanent lesser share.

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100% yes.

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We take any B1G offer now, re-negotiate later.

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Once you agree to a deal, where's the leverage to renegotiate later? Can we, for once, play hardball?

Rushinbear said:

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Strykur said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

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JFC do you want the B1G or not?

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Let me clear, if Cal gets an invite to the B1G they should take it, regardless of stipulations, as long as the stipulation is not a permanent lesser share.

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100% yes.

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We take any B1G offer now, re-negotiate later.

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Once you agree to a deal, where's the leverage to renegotiate later? Can we, for once, play hardball?

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Does Cal have any leverage right now? I dont think now is the time for hardball. I'm sure if the B1G wanted, ASU and Utah would jump at being our replacement.

golden sloth said:

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Rushinbear said:

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Strykur said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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golden sloth said:

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Strykur said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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maxer said:

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golden sloth said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Even if they lowball us with a small share, all that matters is we have the opportunity to eventually gain a full share

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Yes, accepting a half share of B1G money for a few years is worth it as long as we have a path to a full share.

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Presumably the Calimony from UCLA would tide us over during that period, if that's what happens.

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Would we still get Calimony?

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Is this a serious question? I think we cancel that as part of the deal.

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I could see Cal getting reduced payments from UCLA until Cal qualifies for a full share.

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JFC do you want the B1G or not?

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Let me clear, if Cal gets an invite to the B1G they should take it, regardless of stipulations, as long as the stipulation is not a permanent lesser share.

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100% yes.

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We take any B1G offer now, re-negotiate later.

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Once you agree to a deal, where's the leverage to renegotiate later? Can we, for once, play hardball?

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Does Cal have any leverage right now? I dont think now is the time for hardball. I'm sure if the B1G wanted, ASU and Utah would jump at being our replacement.

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Do you think Calimony would be subject to BIG negotiations? I don't, or at least it shouldn't. And, if UCLA tries to make it so from their end, I'd involve the Regents again and settle it once and for all.

If it isn't part of a BIG deal, one way or the other, we take the BIG deal and kneel on the UCLA neck separately.

UCLA left the Pac 12. If we get invited to the B1G, we are leaving the Pac 9. Whatever share we get from the B1G if we join will likely be greater than anything we get from the P9. All bets are off. This would be on the front end of conditions for UCLA to give their support for our entry.

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UCLA left the Pac 12. If we get invited to the B1G, we are leaving the Pac 9. Whatever share we get from the B1G if we join will likely be greater than anything we get from the P9. All bets are off. This would be on the front end of conditions for UCLA to give their support for our entry.

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maxer said:

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philly1121 said:

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UCLA left the Pac 12. If we get invited to the B1G, we are leaving the Pac 9. Whatever share we get from the B1G if we join will likely be greater than anything we get from the P9. All bets are off. This would be on the front end of conditions for UCLA to give their support for our entry.

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Do you think Calimony would be subject to BIG negotiations? I don't, or at least it shouldn't. And, if UCLA tries to make it so from their end, I'd involve the Regents again and settle it once and for all.

If it isn't part of a BIG deal, one way or the other, we take the BIG deal and kneel on the UCLA neck separately.

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And this ladies and gentleman ^^, is why no one wants us. We are so insufferable. That we would negotiate entry into the B1G by having UCLA continue to pay a penalty for leaving the P12. Unbelievable. lol