pingpong2 said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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ferCALgm2 said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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The quislings, USC and UCLA, are not our allies.

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Perhaps. But UCLA would benefit if we get into B1G for simply the Calimony.

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Would you let your ex wife into your country club to reduce alimony? Interesting question.

At this point I'd rather be with the SEC than the Chuldren of the Corn. Better culture, food and music than the lard asses.

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The SEC already has their token nerd school with Vanderbilt. They don't need us.

The only conceivable reason they'd let us join is so that they can beat up on us every week to really "own the libs".

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No, it's about a conference that stretches from Florida to California. There's only going to be two conferences and they will go East- West.

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PaulCali said:

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People talk about Calimony as if it were an accomplished fact. It isn't.
At this point, the BOR haven't said anything official about Calimony, about whether it will in fact be levied and how much the amount might be. It's all conjecture at this point.

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Do we even know if it is a one time payment or annual?

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No. It's all conjecture.

Lila loft has had, what? A year? From the time USC and UCLA announced they were leaving. Instability? Yes. Collapse? No. This is squarely on Scott and Kliavkoff. No leadership. Missed chances. It's a miracle both those schools didn't leave sooner.

philly1121 said:

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Lila loft has had, what? A year? From the time USC and UCLA announced they were leaving. Instability? Yes. Collapse? No. This is squarely on Scott and Kliavkoff. No leadership. Missed chances. It's a miracle both those schools didn't leave sooner.

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The league's problems go back further than that. Tom Hansen was a terrible commissioner. Scott turned out to be historically bad. Kliavkoff just showed himself to be a small timer, totally outfoxed by Warren and Yormark. Misread the market and overvalued what he had.

BigDaddy said:

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philly1121 said:

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Lila loft has had, what? A year? From the time USC and UCLA announced they were leaving. Instability? Yes. Collapse? No. This is squarely on Scott and Kliavkoff. No leadership. Missed chances. It's a miracle both those schools didn't leave sooner.

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The league's problems go back further than that. Tom Hansen was a terrible commissioner. Scott turned out to be historically bad. Kliavkoff just showed himself to be a small timer, totally outfoxed by Warren and Yormark. Misread the market and overvalued what he had.

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Has the Pac-12, Pac-10, Pac-8 ever had a competent commissioner? I can't recall one.

BigDaddy said:

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philly1121 said:

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Lila loft has had, what? A year? From the time USC and UCLA announced they were leaving. Instability? Yes. Collapse? No. This is squarely on Scott and Kliavkoff. No leadership. Missed chances. It's a miracle both those schools didn't leave sooner.

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The league's problems go back further than that. Tom Hansen was a terrible commissioner. Scott turned out to be historically bad. Kliavkoff just showed himself to be a small timer, totally outfoxed by Warren and Yormark. Misread the market and overvalued what he had.

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I'm not sure how much to blame Kliavkoff, as the die may have already been essentially cast when he came on board. He did not inherit a great hand.

Out of these three, I think it's Scott who is the biggest culprit. I didn't mind his aggressive stance early on, but he proved completely unable to adjust to changing circumstances.

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Several Big Ten presidents say recently seeing Christopher Nolan's blockbuster film "Oppenheimer" and that may influence their decision to add Pac-12 schools. "We want to be in the Berkeley business," said one unnamed Big Ten president. "

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okaydo said:

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Several Big Ten presidents say recently seeing Christopher Nolan's blockbuster film "Oppenheimer" and that may influence their decision to add Pac-12 schools. "We want to be in the Berkeley business," said one unnamed Big Ten president. "

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Berkeley? Ew.

The posters here will not allow that.

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Many Cal fans we spoke to were eager to move to the Big Ten conference. "Me no like Pac-12," said a New Zealand-based Cal fans who calls himself Cal Strong! "Me is tired of Pac-12. Me think they in the Big Ten be more competent than they. Me look forward to playing against Michigan and Ohio."

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sycasey said:

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BigDaddy said:

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philly1121 said:

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Lila loft has had, what? A year? From the time USC and UCLA announced they were leaving. Instability? Yes. Collapse? No. This is squarely on Scott and Kliavkoff. No leadership. Missed chances. It's a miracle both those schools didn't leave sooner.

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The league's problems go back further than that. Tom Hansen was a terrible commissioner. Scott turned out to be historically bad. Kliavkoff just showed himself to be a small timer, totally outfoxed by Warren and Yormark. Misread the market and overvalued what he had.

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I'm not sure how much to blame Kliavkoff, as the die may have already been essentially cast when he came on board. He did not inherit a great hand.

Out of these three, I think it's Scott who is the biggest culprit. I didn't mind his aggressive stance early on, but he proved completely unable to adjust to changing circumstances.

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Hansen was really bad, basically gave up the Rose Bowl for nothing, did not fight for Cal in the BCS, always penalized Cal, even hired a coach that we fired and sued Cal, Lou Campaneli, as PAC-10 head of officials, and failed to add Texas when we had the chance.

Tennis Larry Scott was worse. Spent untold money moving HCs to SF so he could live on the Peninsula and Ho to Stanford games instead of "having" to go to Cal games when the offices were in Walnut Creek. Had his replay booth operatives throw the Big Game so that Stanford would get a BCS invite. PAC-12 network lost tons of money focusing on Olympic sports, regionality and no ESPN affiliation….we ended up owing Comcast $70 million….

Kliavkoff needed to swing for the fences, he needed to show USC and UCLA something, his best bet was a merger with the ACC which would have hooked in Notre Dame and put us on par with the B1G and SEC. Instead he took too long, lost USC and UCLA, focused on adding SDSU and SMU who would not move the needle and came back with a pure streaming package that does not even beat the Big12 and our current situation.