ducky23 said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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David Shaw knew when to get the hell out of Dodge.

That said, you would have said similar things about Furd in 2005 or so. Turnarounds can happen.

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Lol I did. But Harbaugh was a once in a generation coach.

But besides that, college football has changed immensely and if you aren't embracing NIL and the transfer portal, you're constantly playing from behind. Even if TT turns out to be a decent coach, it's too much of a deficit to make up.

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Yeah, but listen to some of David Shaw's comments on Ryen Russillo's podcast: it wasn't just Harbaugh, the whole administration changed its approach to prioritize football and that's why they built a strong program. There's time for that to happen again.

Stanford alums have the money to make NIL work if the school just wants to try.

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"If the school just wants to try" is the key.

It was one thing investing in the program during the harbaugh era. But, now you're asking Stanford to pay players or get players out of the transfer portal. These things are below Stanford. They are antithetical to Stanford's mission statement. Stanford bought in 4 players from the portal this year. One was from penn. Another was from Harvard.

I don't see Stanford being willing to sink low enough to adapt. Football simply isn't that important to them.

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Strykur said:

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Down 14-17 versus Sacramento State at half

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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David Shaw knew when to get the hell out of Dodge.

That said, you would have said similar things about Furd in 2005 or so. Turnarounds can happen.

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Lol I did. But Harbaugh was a once in a generation coach.

But besides that, college football has changed immensely and if you aren't embracing NIL and the transfer portal, you're constantly playing from behind. Even if TT turns out to be a decent coach, it's too much of a deficit to make up.

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Yeah, but listen to some of David Shaw's comments on Ryen Russillo's podcast: it wasn't just Harbaugh, the whole administration changed its approach to prioritize football and that's why they built a strong program. There's time for that to happen again.

Stanford alums have the money to make NIL work if the school just wants to try.

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"If the school just wants to try" is the key.

It was one thing investing in the program during the harbaugh era. But, now you're asking Stanford to pay players or get players out of the transfer portal. These things are below Stanford. They are antithetical to Stanford's mission statement. Stanford bought in 4 players from the portal this year. One was from penn. Another was from Harvard.

I don't see Stanford being willing to sink low enough to adapt. Football simply isn't that important to them.

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Yes, and people said similar things about Stanford before Harbaugh started. Future events are unpredictable, and the possible destruction of a proud athletic program might have a way of changing minds.

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LunchTime said:

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Is there a team along the causeway Furd can beat?

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Mcgeorge school of law?

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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David Shaw knew when to get the hell out of Dodge.

That said, you would have said similar things about Furd in 2005 or so. Turnarounds can happen.

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Lol I did. But Harbaugh was a once in a generation coach.

But besides that, college football has changed immensely and if you aren't embracing NIL and the transfer portal, you're constantly playing from behind. Even if TT turns out to be a decent coach, it's too much of a deficit to make up.

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Yeah, but listen to some of David Shaw's comments on Ryen Russillo's podcast: it wasn't just Harbaugh, the whole administration changed its approach to prioritize football and that's why they built a strong program. There's time for that to happen again.

Stanford alums have the money to make NIL work if the school just wants to try.

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"If the school just wants to try" is the key.

It was one thing investing in the program during the harbaugh era. But, now you're asking Stanford to pay players or get players out of the transfer portal. These things are below Stanford. They are antithetical to Stanford's mission statement. Stanford bought in 4 players from the portal this year. One was from penn. Another was from Harvard.

I don't see Stanford being willing to sink low enough to adapt. Football simply isn't that important to them.

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philbert said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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David Shaw knew when to get the hell out of Dodge.

That said, you would have said similar things about Furd in 2005 or so. Turnarounds can happen.

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Lol I did. But Harbaugh was a once in a generation coach.

But besides that, college football has changed immensely and if you aren't embracing NIL and the transfer portal, you're constantly playing from behind. Even if TT turns out to be a decent coach, it's too much of a deficit to make up.

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Yeah, but listen to some of David Shaw's comments on Ryen Russillo's podcast: it wasn't just Harbaugh, the whole administration changed its approach to prioritize football and that's why they built a strong program. There's time for that to happen again.

Stanford alums have the money to make NIL work if the school just wants to try.

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"If the school just wants to try" is the key.

It was one thing investing in the program during the harbaugh era. But, now you're asking Stanford to pay players or get players out of the transfer portal. These things are below Stanford. They are antithetical to Stanford's mission statement. Stanford bought in 4 players from the portal this year. One was from penn. Another was from Harvard.

I don't see Stanford being willing to sink low enough to adapt. Football simply isn't that important to them.

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Hmm, not sure. If they didn't understand what was needed to stay in a power conference, why bother trying to get to the ACC?

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golden sloth said:

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The fighting tedfords are looking good early against Arizona state. The sun devils are getting really banged up. Definitely dont write that game off just yet.

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bluehenbear said:

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Did the farm seem like a home game for the hornets?

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sycasey said:

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philbert said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

---

If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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David Shaw knew when to get the hell out of Dodge.

That said, you would have said similar things about Furd in 2005 or so. Turnarounds can happen.

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Lol I did. But Harbaugh was a once in a generation coach.

But besides that, college football has changed immensely and if you aren't embracing NIL and the transfer portal, you're constantly playing from behind. Even if TT turns out to be a decent coach, it's too much of a deficit to make up.

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Yeah, but listen to some of David Shaw's comments on Ryen Russillo's podcast: it wasn't just Harbaugh, the whole administration changed its approach to prioritize football and that's why they built a strong program. There's time for that to happen again.

Stanford alums have the money to make NIL work if the school just wants to try.

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"If the school just wants to try" is the key.

It was one thing investing in the program during the harbaugh era. But, now you're asking Stanford to pay players or get players out of the transfer portal. These things are below Stanford. They are antithetical to Stanford's mission statement. Stanford bought in 4 players from the portal this year. One was from penn. Another was from Harvard.

I don't see Stanford being willing to sink low enough to adapt. Football simply isn't that important to them.

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Hmm, not sure. If they didn't understand what was needed to stay in a power conference, why bother trying to get to the ACC?

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And to take a pay cut to do it. Obviously someone cares.

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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Can you imagine what the ACC would be thinking if we didn't flip the switch down 17 today?

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wifeisafurd said:

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sycasey said:

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philbert said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

---

If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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David Shaw knew when to get the hell out of Dodge.

That said, you would have said similar things about Furd in 2005 or so. Turnarounds can happen.

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Lol I did. But Harbaugh was a once in a generation coach.

But besides that, college football has changed immensely and if you aren't embracing NIL and the transfer portal, you're constantly playing from behind. Even if TT turns out to be a decent coach, it's too much of a deficit to make up.

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Yeah, but listen to some of David Shaw's comments on Ryen Russillo's podcast: it wasn't just Harbaugh, the whole administration changed its approach to prioritize football and that's why they built a strong program. There's time for that to happen again.

Stanford alums have the money to make NIL work if the school just wants to try.

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"If the school just wants to try" is the key.

It was one thing investing in the program during the harbaugh era. But, now you're asking Stanford to pay players or get players out of the transfer portal. These things are below Stanford. They are antithetical to Stanford's mission statement. Stanford bought in 4 players from the portal this year. One was from penn. Another was from Harvard.

I don't see Stanford being willing to sink low enough to adapt. Football simply isn't that important to them.

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Hmm, not sure. If they didn't understand what was needed to stay in a power conference, why bother trying to get to the ACC?

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And to take a pay cut to do it. Obviously someone cares.

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You need to be in a P4 conference so your non-revenue sports can play top competition. So a competitive football team is necessary for non-revenue sports.

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golden sloth said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

---

If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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Can you imagine what the ACC would be thinking if we didn't flip the switch down 17 today?

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Who cares what the acc thinks. We had to buy our way in, it's not like they did it because they like us.

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BearSD said:

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golden sloth said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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Can you imagine what the ACC would be thinking if we didn't flip the switch down 17 today?

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Who cares what the acc thinks. We had to buy our way in, it's not like they did it because they like us.

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ACC teams are worried about themselves, not us.

UVA is 0-3. This week they were crushed by Big Ten weakling Maryland. Last week they lost to friggin' James Madison.

Pitt lost to West Virginia and didn't score a TD.

Florida State almost lost to Boston College, who did lose to Northern Illinois.

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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dimitrig said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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sycasey said:

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philbert said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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David Shaw knew when to get the hell out of Dodge.

That said, you would have said similar things about Furd in 2005 or so. Turnarounds can happen.

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Lol I did. But Harbaugh was a once in a generation coach.

But besides that, college football has changed immensely and if you aren't embracing NIL and the transfer portal, you're constantly playing from behind. Even if TT turns out to be a decent coach, it's too much of a deficit to make up.

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Yeah, but listen to some of David Shaw's comments on Ryen Russillo's podcast: it wasn't just Harbaugh, the whole administration changed its approach to prioritize football and that's why they built a strong program. There's time for that to happen again.

Stanford alums have the money to make NIL work if the school just wants to try.

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"If the school just wants to try" is the key.

It was one thing investing in the program during the harbaugh era. But, now you're asking Stanford to pay players or get players out of the transfer portal. These things are below Stanford. They are antithetical to Stanford's mission statement. Stanford bought in 4 players from the portal this year. One was from penn. Another was from Harvard.

I don't see Stanford being willing to sink low enough to adapt. Football simply isn't that important to them.

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Hmm, not sure. If they didn't understand what was needed to stay in a power conference, why bother trying to get to the ACC?

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And to take a pay cut to do it. Obviously someone cares.

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You need to be in a P4 conference so your non-revenue sports can play top competition. So a competitive football team is necessary for non-revenue sports.

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Not a necessity but certainly it helps if your football team is revenue positive. There are other ways to support non-revenue sports, though.

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wifeisafurd said:

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dimitrig said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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sycasey said:

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philbert said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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sycasey said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Sure, but that's not coming for another 5 years or so. This season doesn't mean a ton.

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If we had lost to Idaho, would you have said that it wouldn't affect our longterm prospects to get to the BIG?

Stanford is in trouble. I don't think Troy Taylor is a great coach. They seem to shun NIL. Stanford doesn't seem enthused about competing in this new college football landscape. I think they're in trouble.

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David Shaw knew when to get the hell out of Dodge.

That said, you would have said similar things about Furd in 2005 or so. Turnarounds can happen.

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Lol I did. But Harbaugh was a once in a generation coach.

But besides that, college football has changed immensely and if you aren't embracing NIL and the transfer portal, you're constantly playing from behind. Even if TT turns out to be a decent coach, it's too much of a deficit to make up.

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Yeah, but listen to some of David Shaw's comments on Ryen Russillo's podcast: it wasn't just Harbaugh, the whole administration changed its approach to prioritize football and that's why they built a strong program. There's time for that to happen again.

Stanford alums have the money to make NIL work if the school just wants to try.

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"If the school just wants to try" is the key.

It was one thing investing in the program during the harbaugh era. But, now you're asking Stanford to pay players or get players out of the transfer portal. These things are below Stanford. They are antithetical to Stanford's mission statement. Stanford bought in 4 players from the portal this year. One was from penn. Another was from Harvard.

I don't see Stanford being willing to sink low enough to adapt. Football simply isn't that important to them.

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Hmm, not sure. If they didn't understand what was needed to stay in a power conference, why bother trying to get to the ACC?

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And to take a pay cut to do it. Obviously someone cares.

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You need to be in a P4 conference so your non-revenue sports can play top competition. So a competitive football team is necessary for non-revenue sports.

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Not a necessity but certainly it helps if your football team is revenue positive. There are other ways to support non-revenue sports, though.

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Wasn't tinning so much about the revenue angle, as much as you need to be in a power conference t give many of your non-football sports a chance to play top competition. Obviously there are certain sports that are exceptions, such as water polo.

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Anarchistbear said:

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ducky23 said:

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I hate being the party pooper here. But we don't want Stanford football to completely crater. If we go to the BIG at some point, they are our travel partner. We need to both be strong

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Strong? Settle for not a stinking pile of garbage

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