Ron Rivera fired by Commanders

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ducktilldeath
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Bear Naked Ladies said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.
Plus he led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl.

Once.


Nobody on this bored would even know his name if he weren't an alum.
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oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
It's not hard to understand. He's a Cal All-American and Super Bowl champion turned two-time NFL Coach of the Year who is noted for his admirable personal character and his prominent love of Cal.
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Big C said:


The demands on an NFL coach are insane. Rivera could take a year "off" (do some media and maybe some consulting), recharge his batteries and live a healthy lifestyle, spend time with his family and friends... and we'll see where we're at in 10-11 months.


Demands of a college coach seem worse. NFL coaches rarely have to recruit.
calumnus
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ducktilldeath said:

Bear Naked Ladies said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.
Plus he led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl.

Once.


Nobody on this bored would even know his name if he weren't an alum.


Name a more successful coach who is an Oregon alum
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calumnus said:

ducktilldeath said:

Bear Naked Ladies said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.
Plus he led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl.

Once.


Nobody on this bored would even know his name if he weren't an alum.


Name a more successful coach who is an Oregon alum


What did Johnny Dangerously study at Oregon?
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ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


He was an All American. You know, like Cal has every year.
The favorite for many is won a game at Texas A-M on a Walk off safety.
Like so many Cal Alums, he has Super bowl ring. But he would rather talk Cal football than his Chicago Bears playing days.
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ducktilldeath said:

Bear Naked Ladies said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.
Plus he led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl.

Once.


Nobody on this bored would even know his name if he weren't an alum.

Yeah, because nobody on this "bored" has heard of any long-time NFL Head Coaches.

Don't be a troll. You're usually better than that. And if you do feel the need to troll, shouldn't you be on UW's "bored" right now? There's a lot more to work with up there right now.
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Big C said:

ducktilldeath said:

Bear Naked Ladies said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.
Plus he led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl.

Once.


Nobody on this bored would even know his name if he weren't an alum.

Yeah, because nobody on this "bored" has heard of any long-time NFL Head Coaches.

Don't be a troll. You're usually better than that. And if you do feel the need to troll, shouldn't you be on UW's "bored" right now? There's a lot more to work with up there right now.

"Bored"….. yep that Oregon degree is so valuable.
ducktilldeath
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calumnus said:

ducktilldeath said:

Bear Naked Ladies said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.
Plus he led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl.

Once.


Nobody on this bored would even know his name if he weren't an alum.


Name a more successful coach who is an Oregon alum
Straw man much?
ducktilldeath
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Alkiadt said:

Big C said:

ducktilldeath said:

Bear Naked Ladies said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.
Plus he led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl.

Once.


Nobody on this bored would even know his name if he weren't an alum.

Yeah, because nobody on this "bored" has heard of any long-time NFL Head Coaches.

Don't be a troll. You're usually better than that. And if you do feel the need to troll, shouldn't you be on UW's "bored" right now? There's a lot more to work with up there right now.

"Bored"….. yep that Oregon degree is so valuable.
It's a ****ing joke you nitwits.
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ducktilldeath said:

calumnus said:

ducktilldeath said:

Bear Naked Ladies said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.
Plus he led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl.

Once.


Nobody on this bored would even know his name if he weren't an alum.


Name a more successful coach who is an Oregon alum
Straw man much?
Your stated position is he hasn't ever accomplished anything beyond 1983 and Cal fans only know him because he's an alum. Yet even YOU know exactly who he is. And you complain about straw men? Thanks for the chuckles.
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ducktilldeath said:

Alkiadt said:

Big C said:

ducktilldeath said:

Bear Naked Ladies said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.
Plus he led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl.

Once.


Nobody on this bored would even know his name if he weren't an alum.

Yeah, because nobody on this "bored" has heard of any long-time NFL Head Coaches.

Don't be a troll. You're usually better than that. And if you do feel the need to troll, shouldn't you be on UW's "bored" right now? There's a lot more to work with up there right now.

"Bored"….. yep that Oregon degree is so valuable.
It's a ****ing joke you nitwits.


Nice try at an excuse.
Nitwit.
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calumnus said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

calumnus said:

Pittstop said:

Valleyblue said:

I know he's stated that he'd love to coach Cal. I wonder if he's ready to slow down a bit and would he consider coming back to Cal as DC/Associate HC. Personally, I've thought our defense just hasn't been what it was when DeRuyter was here. I wouldn't mind seeing us go in "another direction" from Sirmon.


How about AD?


Why? If he would come for an AD salary (or less) we should make him the head football coach, his proven expertise. He took a team to tge Suoer Bowl. There are better, cheaper alternatives for AD. There is no other alternative for head football coach, given Wilcox's contract.
I highly doubt Rivera would take the head coaching job (or AD) for free, even though he loves Cal, and free is about all we can afford right now while paying Wilcox's salary.


Agreed, but that is the only question we should be debating, not whether Rivera would be an upgrade over Wilcox. That should be obvious. I can't believe people are arguing otherwise.


Concur 100%. Taking a "chance" on a proven NFL HC, complete class act, a guy respected everywhere,and who already bleeds Blue & Gold would be 1000x better than sticking with Wilcox.
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Golden One said:

dimitrig said:

Alkiadt said:

dimitrig said:


Best thing about Rivera is it means Wikcox is gone and probably also Knowlton.

Get it done, Carol!
What part did you forget about paying off $20million? You writing a check?
lol
I heard Carol was a great fundraiser.
Is Carol great at anything?
Giving big salaries to incompetent buffoons.
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Bear Naked Ladies said:

Golden One said:

dimitrig said:

Alkiadt said:

dimitrig said:


Best thing about Rivera is it means Wikcox is gone and probably also Knowlton.

Get it done, Carol!
What part did you forget about paying off $20million? You writing a check?
lol
I heard Carol was a great fundraiser.
Is Carol great at anything?
Giving big salaries to incompetent buffoons.


Then giving them unprecedented, irresponsible, 8 year contract extensions far beyond her own planned retirement date.
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If this were a telenovella, then the maid would have let slip to Wilcox about seeing Christ and Knowlton having drinks with a handsome older Hispanic man, with her overhearing about his flight from DC. In the next scene, Wilcox would be seen driving a convertible singing "I will Survive" with tears in his eyes.
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BearoutEast67 said:

If this were a telenovella, then the maid would have let slip to Wilcox about seeing Christ and Knowlton having drinks with a handsome older Hispanic man, with her overhearing about his flight from DC. In the next scene, Wilcox would be seen driving a convertible singing "I will Survive" with tears in his eyes.
If?
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ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
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Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.


I am sure he would be a good Cal AD.

I just think we have a lot of great smart Cal alums at the highest levels in sports management, marketing and finance who would be as good or better AD. Moreover, we can hire great ADs from other schools for relatively very little.

Ron's expertise is coaching football. We have no alum who is a better football coach. If he would come here for an AD salary, his highest and best role at Cal would be coaching the football team.
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bearsandgiants
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Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.
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bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.


He has often said he wants to coach Cal and there is no way he believes we would be last, but that was essentially where we were when he played for Cal so it would not be a shock.
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calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.


He has often said he wants to coach Cal and there is no way he believes we would be last, but that was essentially where we were when he played for Cal so it would not be a shock.
He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...
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mbBear said:

calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.


He has often said he wants to coach Cal and there is no way he believes we would be last, but that was essentially where we were when he played for Cal so it would not be a shock.
He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...


I would think he will have a lot of options as an NFL DC as well and will probably interview for a couple of HC jobs.
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mbBear said:

calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:






He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...
Eagles DC might not be a long term job. A head coach like Sirianni who scapegoats his assistants after the team goes into a tailspin, just to try and keep his own job for one more season, often turns out to be a head coach who doesn't last until the end of next season.
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Sure wish he'd be Cal's DC instead.
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calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.


He has often said he wants to coach Cal and there is no way he believes we would be last, but that was essentially where we were when he played for Cal so it would not be a shock.
He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...


I would think he will have a lot of options as an NFL DC as well and will probably interview for a couple of HC jobs.
I will be surprised if he gets serious consideration as a HC.
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BearSD said:

mbBear said:


He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...
Eagles DC might not be a long term job. A head coach like Sirianni who scapegoats his assistants after the team goes into a tailspin, just to try and keep his own job for one more season, often turns out to be a head coach who doesn't last until the end of next season.
The lost both assistants last off-season to HC positions. There was no way the blame was going to fall anywhere else.
But yes, Sirianni is a victim of his own success.
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mbBear said:

calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.


He has often said he wants to coach Cal and there is no way he believes we would be last, but that was essentially where we were when he played for Cal so it would not be a shock.
He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...


I would think he will have a lot of options as an NFL DC as well and will probably interview for a couple of HC jobs.
I will be surprised if he gets serious consideration as a HC.


I only said he will probably get interviews, if only to satisfy the Rooney Rule, but also because he is well liked and respected. "Serious consideration"? Probably not.
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calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.


He has often said he wants to coach Cal and there is no way he believes we would be last, but that was essentially where we were when he played for Cal so it would not be a shock.
He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...


I would think he will have a lot of options as an NFL DC as well and will probably interview for a couple of HC jobs.
I will be surprised if he gets serious consideration as a HC.


I only said he will probably get interviews, if only to satisfy the Rooney Rule, but also because he is well liked and respected. "Serious consideration"? Probably not.

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You are assuming he will accept the interviews if they are perceived to be Rooney Rule motivated... been there, done that, and has kissed enough asses.
Might he help some teams out? Maybe..
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mbBear said:

calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.


He has often said he wants to coach Cal and there is no way he believes we would be last, but that was essentially where we were when he played for Cal so it would not be a shock.
He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...


I would think he will have a lot of options as an NFL DC as well and will probably interview for a couple of HC jobs.
I will be surprised if he gets serious consideration as a HC.


I only said he will probably get interviews, if only to satisfy the Rooney Rule, but also because he is well liked and respected. "Serious consideration"? Probably not.

.
You are assuming he will accept the interviews if they are perceived to be Rooney Rule motivated... been there, done that, and has kissed enough asses.
Might he help some teams out? Maybe..


Hard to tell going in. Moreover, he can win the interview and he wouldn't be the first coach fired somewhere then hired somewhere else. I just think most owners are looking for the next young offensive genius.

I also am selfishly hoping somehow he comes to Cal so his taking a DC job or sitting out a season is better for that outcome.
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calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.


He has often said he wants to coach Cal and there is no way he believes we would be last, but that was essentially where we were when he played for Cal so it would not be a shock.
He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...


I would think he will have a lot of options as an NFL DC as well and will probably interview for a couple of HC jobs.
I will be surprised if he gets serious consideration as a HC.


I only said he will probably get interviews, if only to satisfy the Rooney Rule, but also because he is well liked and respected. "Serious consideration"? Probably not.

.
You are assuming he will accept the interviews if they are perceived to be Rooney Rule motivated... been there, done that, and has kissed enough asses.
Might he help some teams out? Maybe..


Hard to tell going in. Moreover, he can win the interview and he wouldn't be the first coach fired somewhere then hired somewhere else. I just think most owners are looking for the next young offensive genius.

I also am selfishly hoping somehow he comes to Cal so his taking a DC job or sitting out a season is better for that outcome.


I agree about the offensive influence, but not to the degree that it is playing out in college, and the recruiting and butts in the seats component.
If your sources have him in line for a HC job/or real interview, then good for him...3 different HC tenures is rare. Probably true about the coordinator position vs. coming to Cal, but walking away from a team on the edge of greatness(if that came to pass)would not be Ron's style in theory. But if it was Cal....
Ps: My opinion, not based on anything I have been told, or conversations I have had(unlike most of my comments): see where Jim Harbaugh ends up and see if that leads to a Rivera DC hiring...
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mbBear said:

calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

mbBear said:

calumnus said:

bearsandgiants said:

Oski87 said:

ducktilldeath said:

oskidunker said:

I don't get the fascination with Ron Rivera. Please explain.
He was the Pac-10 DPOY in 1983 or something. At Cal. That's it.


Ron was a great Cal football player, a great NFL player, a well respected Coach in the NFL for 25 years including two head coaching jobs at basically the worst two franchises, and always was an exemplary human. He has been a tremendous advocate for Cal his whole career and speaks of the University as the way someone who understands Cal and loves it does. He understands the good that Cal stands for.

He has leadership all over him. He played his last year at Cal my freshman year, and was dominant, getting pac 10 DPOY.

That being said, he does not have college experience so he would be a flyer. But he has tons of experience with coaches and others in the industry.

I think he would be impressive at Cal as someone with enough heft to get things done here. I would rather see him as AD than coach, which is a more critical job. He is a culture setter. He could hire the technical people to deal with budgets, bureaucracy, etc. But working for the NFL owners would be more than able to deal with Cal leadership. And their long time support of women's athletics at Cal is important.

People want someone who gets Cal. We already have a guy who gets lower level a th let us from West Point and Air Force. We need someone who gets big time athletics. So that is the attraction of Ron Rivera. But of course others could fit the bill.
My guess is that after 25 years of coaching the worst teams in the league, he doesn't want to also do that at the NCAA level, but maybe he's a glutton for punishment.


He has often said he wants to coach Cal and there is no way he believes we would be last, but that was essentially where we were when he played for Cal so it would not be a shock.
He is interviewing for the Eagles DC job....he was well liked by Lurie (the owner) and Roseman (Prez/GM) when he was linebackers coach for Andy Reid.
He and Stephanie enjoyed living in the area. That said, the Eagles reputation and willingness to spend is going to put them in the hunt for a lot of DC candidates...


I would think he will have a lot of options as an NFL DC as well and will probably interview for a couple of HC jobs.
I will be surprised if he gets serious consideration as a HC.


I only said he will probably get interviews, if only to satisfy the Rooney Rule, but also because he is well liked and respected. "Serious consideration"? Probably not.

.
You are assuming he will accept the interviews if they are perceived to be Rooney Rule motivated... been there, done that, and has kissed enough asses.
Might he help some teams out? Maybe..


Hard to tell going in. Moreover, he can win the interview and he wouldn't be the first coach fired somewhere then hired somewhere else. I just think most owners are looking for the next young offensive genius.

I also am selfishly hoping somehow he comes to Cal so his taking a DC job or sitting out a season is better for that outcome.


I agree about the offensive influence, but not to the degree that it is playing out in college, and the recruiting and butts in the seats component.
If your sources have him in line for a HC job/or real interview, then good for him...3 different HC tenures is rare. Probably true about the coordinator position vs. coming to Cal, but walking away from a team on the edge of greatness(if that came to pass)would not be Ron's style in theory. But if it was Cal....
Ps: My opinion, not based on anything I have been told, or conversations I have had(unlike most of my comments): see where Jim Harbaugh ends up and see if that leads to a Rivera DC hiring...


I don't think anyone posted this:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39330080/ron-rivera-says-wants-coach-even-dc
 
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