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Well, this is a playoffs thread:

If KC loses Swift should dump Travis and write a song about it.

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No way, he scores the game winner and dies in her arms. Much better song

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She can use this song as a template

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I don't comprehend why TB went for 2…

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Football coaches are not from among the best and brightest in our society

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This is a stupid comment.

I had the same thought as you, that it seemed strange. I just assumed I somehow misunderstood the situation.

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End game. On third and 12 from the TB 30 Goff takes a knee, losing two yards, making it fourth and 14. 36 seconds remained in the fourth quarter. There was 40 seconds on the play clock. So everyone started shaking hands and stuff. It's over. No need to snap the ball again. Except TB had one timeout remaining. Why didn't they take it? Sure, Detroit could have kicked a field goal to ice it. But what if they missed? Or Detroit could have tried to get a first down. Or just run around using up time. But TB would have had a teeny tiny chance to try for a miracle play. You know, maybe five laterals or something. Instead they chose to just say congrats and good luck Lions. I don't think you ever give up when you have any chance at all. Thoughts?

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Asking this again.

Wide right!

Buffalo fans get kicked in the nuts again.

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Well, this is a playoffs thread:

If KC loses Swift should dump Travis and write a song about it.

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I Left My Heart in Buffalo?

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Wide right!

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Like Niners will lose to Goff.

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Buffalo fans get kicked in the nuts again.

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They are so entitled

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Just got through Goff's game. Amazing how it ended so similarly to the Niners' game. Cool that they meet next week at Levi's!

Man, Goff ran a pretty good offense today. Thinking the Niners better get their crap together if they think they're gonna pull out another win.

Nice that I'll have something to celebrate no matter which team prevails.

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As I asked above, why didn't TB use their last timeout?

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After that gleeful summary by Collinsworth about where this game is headed for the Bucs, I hope Mayfield sh@its the bed with a pic to open the 2nd half.

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How about his backhanded compliment that "Goff makes easy things look easier."

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Curious, what makes the compliment backhanded?

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Implying Goff has it easy on this team.

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When did Collinsworth say, or even imply, Goff has it easy? Sounds like some people are grasping at straw in their efforts to find something to be offended by.

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You must have missed Collinsworth's comment about Goff "making easy things look easier", a weird, contorted backhanded compliment.

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I heard the comment just didn't see a reason to take offense.

BTW, why are some people caring so much what Collinsworth says about Goff? Regardless of what Collinsworth says, what impact does it have on your quality of life? Why are people choosing to be offended?

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End game. On third and 12 from the TB 30 Goff takes a knee, losing two yards, making it fourth and 14. 36 seconds remained in the fourth quarter. There was 40 seconds on the play clock. So everyone started shaking hands and stuff. It's over. No need to snap the ball again. Except TB had one timeout remaining. Why didn't they take it? Sure, Detroit could have kicked a field goal to ice it. But what if they missed? Or Detroit could have tried to get a first down. Or just run around using up time. But TB would have had a teeny tiny chance to try for a miracle play. You know, maybe five laterals or something. Instead they chose to just say congrats and good luck Lions. I don't think you ever give up when you have any chance at all. Thoughts?

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Asking this again.

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I think that it was on 2nd down where Goff took the snap with 17 seconds remaining to allow for the above. Kind of stupid on both sides

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JimSox said:

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End game. On third and 12 from the TB 30 Goff takes a knee, losing two yards, making it fourth and 14. 36 seconds remained in the fourth quarter. There was 40 seconds on the play clock. So everyone started shaking hands and stuff. It's over. No need to snap the ball again. Except TB had one timeout remaining. Why didn't they take it? Sure, Detroit could have kicked a field goal to ice it. But what if they missed? Or Detroit could have tried to get a first down. Or just run around using up time. But TB would have had a teeny tiny chance to try for a miracle play. You know, maybe five laterals or something. Instead they chose to just say congrats and good luck Lions. I don't think you ever give up when you have any chance at all. Thoughts?

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Asking this again.

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I think that it was on 2nd down where Goff took the snap with 17 seconds remaining to allow for the above. Kind of stupid on both sides

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Nope. Just watched it again. It was third down. And there were 36 seconds left after the third down play. Only thing I can think of is that the TV crew had it wrong and the Bucs were actually out of timeouts. There was some confusion when with 3:02 left Tampa Bay called their second timeout. After they called it the refs announced that there was a five yard penalty against TB. The ref said something inaudible about the timeout and then his mic came on more clearly, and he said the clock was stopped because of the penalty. The TV announcer said they got their timeout back because of that. But is that what the ref had said? Couldn't hear. But the TV graphic clearly reverted to two timeouts left. Next play TB called what was described as their second timeout and never called another one.

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JimSox said:

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JimSox said:

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JimSox said:

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End game. On third and 12 from the TB 30 Goff takes a knee, losing two yards, making it fourth and 14. 36 seconds remained in the fourth quarter. There was 40 seconds on the play clock. So everyone started shaking hands and stuff. It's over. No need to snap the ball again. Except TB had one timeout remaining. Why didn't they take it? Sure, Detroit could have kicked a field goal to ice it. But what if they missed? Or Detroit could have tried to get a first down. Or just run around using up time. But TB would have had a teeny tiny chance to try for a miracle play. You know, maybe five laterals or something. Instead they chose to just say congrats and good luck Lions. I don't think you ever give up when you have any chance at all. Thoughts?

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Asking this again.

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I think that it was on 2nd down where Goff took the snap with 17 seconds remaining to allow for the above. Kind of stupid on both sides

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Nope. Just watched it again. It was third down. And there were 36 seconds left after the third down play. Only thing I can think of is that the TV crew had it wrong and the Bucs were actually out of timeouts. There was some confusion when with 3:02 left Tampa Bay called their second timeout. After they called it the refs announced that there was a five yard penalty against TB. The ref said something inaudible about the timeout and then his mic came on more clearly, and he said the clock was stopped because of the penalty. The TV announcer said they got their timeout back because of that. But is that what the ref had said? Couldn't hear. But the TV graphic clearly reverted to two timeouts left. Next play TB called what was described as their second timeout and never called another one.

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The only logical explanation is Todd Bowles had a dinner reservation he needed to make.

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JimSox said:

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JimSox said:

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JimSox said:

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JimSox said:

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End game. On third and 12 from the TB 30 Goff takes a knee, losing two yards, making it fourth and 14. 36 seconds remained in the fourth quarter. There was 40 seconds on the play clock. So everyone started shaking hands and stuff. It's over. No need to snap the ball again. Except TB had one timeout remaining. Why didn't they take it? Sure, Detroit could have kicked a field goal to ice it. But what if they missed? Or Detroit could have tried to get a first down. Or just run around using up time. But TB would have had a teeny tiny chance to try for a miracle play. You know, maybe five laterals or something. Instead they chose to just say congrats and good luck Lions. I don't think you ever give up when you have any chance at all. Thoughts?

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Asking this again.

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I think that it was on 2nd down where Goff took the snap with 17 seconds remaining to allow for the above. Kind of stupid on both sides

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Nope. Just watched it again. It was third down. And there were 36 seconds left after the third down play. Only thing I can think of is that the TV crew had it wrong and the Bucs were actually out of timeouts. There was some confusion when with 3:02 left Tampa Bay called their second timeout. After they called it the refs announced that there was a five yard penalty against TB. The ref said something inaudible about the timeout and then his mic came on more clearly, and he said the clock was stopped because of the penalty. The TV announcer said they got their timeout back because of that. But is that what the ref had said? Couldn't hear. But the TV graphic clearly reverted to two timeouts left. Next play TB called what was described as their second timeout and never called another one.

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The only logical explanation is Todd Bowles had a dinner reservation he needed to make.

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Sounds right! Maybe they just wanted to get the hell out of there. Wait 'til next year.
Changed my mind about the TV guys making a mistake. After the Lions punt and the two minute warning, Mike Tirico said that the Bucs had 1:59 and one time out to score. I don't see how he could have been mistaken. After a short pass caught inbounds the clock kept running. The next hurried play was the interception. Three kneel downs. No timeout ever called. WHY NOT? And no one ever said anything about it. Too busy talking about the interception and about how the Lions had won.
I'm getting obsessed with this!

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Maybe check a Bucs board. If they're anything like us the topic will have been explored, deconstructed, analyzed, abused and locked.

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Just did. Nothing about it. It was fourth and like 12 for goodness sakes. 36 seconds with which to try to pull off a miracle. Why let the clock expire instead of calling your last time out? It appears I'm the only person in the entire world who noticed this. Meaning I am either uniquely perceptive or quite insane!

Doesn't Papa do radio for the niners now? Tune in and find out...

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Doesn't Papa do radio for the niners now? Tune in and find out...

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Yes. And he's on KNBR every weekday from 10 a.m. to 2. Just mentioned all the Lions' weapons and just said Goff's name as one of them without elaboration.
But back to the timeout thing… oh never mind.

Cowherd says 49ers are a younger version of the Niners with a better QB.

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Doesn't Papa do radio for the niners now? Tune in and find out...

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Why would I do that? I'm a Lions fan.

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Cal_79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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After that gleeful summary by Collinsworth about where this game is headed for the Bucs, I hope Mayfield sh@its the bed with a pic to open the 2nd half.

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How about his backhanded compliment that "Goff makes easy things look easier."

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Curious, what makes the compliment backhanded?

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Implying Goff has it easy on this team.

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When did Collinsworth say, or even imply, Goff has it easy? Sounds like some people are grasping at straw in their efforts to find something to be offended by.

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You must have missed Collinsworth's comment about Goff "making easy things look easier", a weird, contorted backhanded compliment.

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I heard the comment just didn't see a reason to take offense.

BTW, why are some people caring so much what Collinsworth says about Goff? Regardless of what Collinsworth says, what impact does it have on your quality of life? Why are people choosing to be offended?

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I don't think anyone is offended at what Collinsworth said (though you seem to be offended that what he said was posted here). The point is that he has been and continues to be a sharp critic of Goff, and while Goff is taking the Lions to an unprecedent (at least over the last few decades) to a second round playoff victory, securing a spot in the NFC championship, Collinsworth offers faint praise that he makes easy things look easier, implying that he is not up to the job when it comes to difficult things. No offense was taken or expressed, just an observation about Collinsworth and his bias.

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well said, although my quality of life will never be the same

okaydo said:

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Cal_79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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75bear said:

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Cal_79 said:

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southseasbear said:

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bearister said:

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After that gleeful summary by Collinsworth about where this game is headed for the Bucs, I hope Mayfield sh@its the bed with a pic to open the 2nd half.

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How about his backhanded compliment that "Goff makes easy things look easier."

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Curious, what makes the compliment backhanded?

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Implying Goff has it easy on this team.

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When did Collinsworth say, or even imply, Goff has it easy? Sounds like some people are grasping at straw in their efforts to find something to be offended by.

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You must have missed Collinsworth's comment about Goff "making easy things look easier", a weird, contorted backhanded compliment.

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I heard the comment just didn't see a reason to take offense.

BTW, why are some people caring so much what Collinsworth says about Goff? Regardless of what Collinsworth says, what impact does it have on your quality of life? Why are people choosing to be offended?

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Sunday Night Football is the No. 1 show on TV. Cris Collinsworth can help shape the narrative on Goff.

Back in his Ram days, on multiple occasions, Collinsworth would have the main screen shrink and put in a box of McVay's face to emphasize that McVay is basically playing Madden with Goff.

Collinsworth also majority owns Pro Football Focus, which Sunday Night Football uses on screen.

I'm not going to go in on Collinsworth because I watch Goff games with the sound turned down.

But Collinsworth is a very influential person.

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Your clarification is appreciated.

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okaydo said:

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Cal_79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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75bear said:

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Cal_79 said:

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southseasbear said:

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bearister said:

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After that gleeful summary by Collinsworth about where this game is headed for the Bucs, I hope Mayfield sh@its the bed with a pic to open the 2nd half.

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How about his backhanded compliment that "Goff makes easy things look easier."

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Curious, what makes the compliment backhanded?

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Implying Goff has it easy on this team.

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When did Collinsworth say, or even imply, Goff has it easy? Sounds like some people are grasping at straw in their efforts to find something to be offended by.

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You must have missed Collinsworth's comment about Goff "making easy things look easier", a weird, contorted backhanded compliment.

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I heard the comment just didn't see a reason to take offense.

BTW, why are some people caring so much what Collinsworth says about Goff? Regardless of what Collinsworth says, what impact does it have on your quality of life? Why are people choosing to be offended?

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Sunday Night Football is the No. 1 show on TV. Cris Collinsworth can help shape the narrative on Goff.

Back in his Ram days, on multiple occasions, Collinsworth would have the main screen shrink and put in a box of McVay's face to emphasize that McVay is basically playing Madden with Goff.

Collinsworth also majority owns Pro Football Focus, which Sunday Night Football uses on screen.

I'm not going to go in on Collinsworth because I watch Goff games with the sound turned down.

But Collinsworth is a very influential person.

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Your clarification is appreciated.

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let's hope we don't have to walk you thru a Ted Robinson broadcast

southseasbear said:

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Cal_79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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75bear said:

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Cal_79 said:

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southseasbear said:

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bearister said:

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After that gleeful summary by Collinsworth about where this game is headed for the Bucs, I hope Mayfield sh@its the bed with a pic to open the 2nd half.

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How about his backhanded compliment that "Goff makes easy things look easier."

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Curious, what makes the compliment backhanded?

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Implying Goff has it easy on this team.

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When did Collinsworth say, or even imply, Goff has it easy? Sounds like some people are grasping at straw in their efforts to find something to be offended by.

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You must have missed Collinsworth's comment about Goff "making easy things look easier", a weird, contorted backhanded compliment.

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I heard the comment just didn't see a reason to take offense.

BTW, why are some people caring so much what Collinsworth says about Goff? Regardless of what Collinsworth says, what impact does it have on your quality of life? Why are people choosing to be offended?

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I don't think anyone is offended at what Collinsworth said (though you seem to be offended that what he said was posted here). The point is that he has been and continues to be a sharp critic of Goff, and while Goff is taking the Lions to an unprecedent (at least over the last few decades) to a second round playoff victory, securing a spot in the NFC championship, Collinsworth offers faint praise that he makes easy things look easier, implying that he is not up to the job when it comes to difficult things. No offense was taken or expressed, just an observation about Collinsworth and his bias.

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I haven't been offended by anything Collinsworth said about Goff, just finding people's level of obsession with what he's said to be amusing. Regardless of what any talking head says, leading the Lions to the NFC championship game is all the validation Goff needs.

cal83dls79 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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okaydo said:

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Cal_79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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75bear said:

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Cal_79 said:

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southseasbear said:

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bearister said:

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After that gleeful summary by Collinsworth about where this game is headed for the Bucs, I hope Mayfield sh@its the bed with a pic to open the 2nd half.

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How about his backhanded compliment that "Goff makes easy things look easier."

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Curious, what makes the compliment backhanded?

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Implying Goff has it easy on this team.

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When did Collinsworth say, or even imply, Goff has it easy? Sounds like some people are grasping at straw in their efforts to find something to be offended by.

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You must have missed Collinsworth's comment about Goff "making easy things look easier", a weird, contorted backhanded compliment.

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I heard the comment just didn't see a reason to take offense.

BTW, why are some people caring so much what Collinsworth says about Goff? Regardless of what Collinsworth says, what impact does it have on your quality of life? Why are people choosing to be offended?

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Sunday Night Football is the No. 1 show on TV. Cris Collinsworth can help shape the narrative on Goff.

Back in his Ram days, on multiple occasions, Collinsworth would have the main screen shrink and put in a box of McVay's face to emphasize that McVay is basically playing Madden with Goff.

Collinsworth also majority owns Pro Football Focus, which Sunday Night Football uses on screen.

I'm not going to go in on Collinsworth because I watch Goff games with the sound turned down.

But Collinsworth is a very influential person.

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Your clarification is appreciated.

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let's hope we don't have to walk you thru a Ted Robinson broadcast

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Perhaps if I cared what Ted Robinson says, but since I don't...

Cal_79 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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okaydo said:

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Cal_79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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75bear said:

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Cal_79 said:

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southseasbear said:

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bearister said:

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After that gleeful summary by Collinsworth about where this game is headed for the Bucs, I hope Mayfield sh@its the bed with a pic to open the 2nd half.

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How about his backhanded compliment that "Goff makes easy things look easier."

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Curious, what makes the compliment backhanded?

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Implying Goff has it easy on this team.

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When did Collinsworth say, or even imply, Goff has it easy? Sounds like some people are grasping at straw in their efforts to find something to be offended by.

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You must have missed Collinsworth's comment about Goff "making easy things look easier", a weird, contorted backhanded compliment.

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I heard the comment just didn't see a reason to take offense.

BTW, why are some people caring so much what Collinsworth says about Goff? Regardless of what Collinsworth says, what impact does it have on your quality of life? Why are people choosing to be offended?

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Sunday Night Football is the No. 1 show on TV. Cris Collinsworth can help shape the narrative on Goff.

Back in his Ram days, on multiple occasions, Collinsworth would have the main screen shrink and put in a box of McVay's face to emphasize that McVay is basically playing Madden with Goff.

Collinsworth also majority owns Pro Football Focus, which Sunday Night Football uses on screen.

I'm not going to go in on Collinsworth because I watch Goff games with the sound turned down.

But Collinsworth is a very influential person.

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Your clarification is appreciated.

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let's hope we don't have to walk you thru a Ted Robinson broadcast

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Perhaps if I cared what Ted Robinson says, but since I don't...

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this could be tough to get you thru this one. …was a Stanford announcer and fan boy, Then he called Cal games on various networks. Care to double down?

cal83dls79 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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okaydo said:

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Cal_79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Cal_79 said:

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75bear said:

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Cal_79 said:

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southseasbear said:

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bearister said:

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After that gleeful summary by Collinsworth about where this game is headed for the Bucs, I hope Mayfield sh@its the bed with a pic to open the 2nd half.

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How about his backhanded compliment that "Goff makes easy things look easier."

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Curious, what makes the compliment backhanded?

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Implying Goff has it easy on this team.

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When did Collinsworth say, or even imply, Goff has it easy? Sounds like some people are grasping at straw in their efforts to find something to be offended by.

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You must have missed Collinsworth's comment about Goff "making easy things look easier", a weird, contorted backhanded compliment.

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I heard the comment just didn't see a reason to take offense.

BTW, why are some people caring so much what Collinsworth says about Goff? Regardless of what Collinsworth says, what impact does it have on your quality of life? Why are people choosing to be offended?

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Sunday Night Football is the No. 1 show on TV. Cris Collinsworth can help shape the narrative on Goff.

Back in his Ram days, on multiple occasions, Collinsworth would have the main screen shrink and put in a box of McVay's face to emphasize that McVay is basically playing Madden with Goff.

Collinsworth also majority owns Pro Football Focus, which Sunday Night Football uses on screen.

I'm not going to go in on Collinsworth because I watch Goff games with the sound turned down.

But Collinsworth is a very influential person.

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Your clarification is appreciated.

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let's hope we don't have to walk you thru a Ted Robinson broadcast

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Perhaps if I cared what Ted Robinson says, but since I don't...

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this could be tough to get you thru this one. …was a Stanford announcer and fan boy, Then he called Cal games on various networks. Care to double down?

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I know who Ted Robinson is. Perhaps you'd like to elaborate why you feel I should care what he says?

No. Perhaps you should actually listen to his broadcasts. Are you feeling ok?