Sorta OT: Any other BI'ers on pins and needles to see if their kid got in?

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Thursday is the big day. For long time readers you know I have been hoping SCT Jr. gets in. UCI and UCSB so far (as well as Reed. WL at UCD, UCSD and Harvey Mudd). The kids (cause they are uber) exploited a glitch in the system and he has a Cal ID number which is supposedly a very good sign. College admission Astrology indeed.
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socaltownie said:

Thursday is the big day. For long time readers you know I have been hoping SCT Jr. gets in. UCI and UCSB so far (as well as Reed. WL at UCD, UCSD and Harvey Mudd). The kids (cause they are uber) exploited a glitch in the system and he has a Cal ID number which is supposedly a very good sign. College admission Astrology indeed.


Niece in San Diego with 4.3 GPA did not get into any UC, even Santa Cruz. She was offered substantial financial aid at Oregon and Oregon State so they are going up this weekend to check out both campuses.
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socaltownie said:

Thursday is the big day. For long time readers you know I have been hoping SCT Jr. gets in. UCI and UCSB so far (as well as Reed. WL at UCD, UCSD and Harvey Mudd). The kids (cause they are uber) exploited a glitch in the system and he has a Cal ID number which is supposedly a very good sign. College admission Astrology indeed.
Good luck, fingers crossed you receive some good news!
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socaltownie said:

Thursday is the big day. For long time readers you know I have been hoping SCT Jr. gets in. UCI and UCSB so far (as well as Reed. WL at UCD, UCSD and Harvey Mudd). The kids (cause they are uber) exploited a glitch in the system and he has a Cal ID number which is supposedly a very good sign. College admission Astrology indeed.
Waiting but not expecting it. Waitlisted at Davis and UCSB and not in at UCLA. She's gotten waitlisted at many other schools. In at McGill, Colgate, Indiana (Kelley Business), Udub and Wake Forest. Not sure at all where she should go.

Ivies I think come out on Thursday though I don't sense much interest from her.
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Good luck to all the applicants!
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socaltownie said:

Thursday is the big day. For long time readers you know I have been hoping SCT Jr. gets in. UCI and UCSB so far (as well as Reed. WL at UCD, UCSD and Harvey Mudd). The kids (cause they are uber) exploited a glitch in the system and he has a Cal ID number which is supposedly a very good sign. College admission Astrology indeed.
My daughter just told me about this trick but she hasn't tried it for herself. Hope it works out for Jr!

This year has been a tough year for kids applying to the UCs!
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Yup. My second son is awaiting. He has scored USC and Boston College and UCSB. Despite the maxed out UC application GPa, he got WL'd at UCLA. UCSD. AND IRVINE. unreal.
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FWIH, lots of OOS kids getting in this year. I'm sure there's no correlation with the state 38 billion deficit. None at all.
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CarmelBear said:

FWIH, lots of OOS kids getting in this year. I'm sure there's no correlation with the state 38 billion deficit. None at all.
Campus gets just 10% of its money from the state and just finished a $7.37 billion campaign, so that's probably minimal.
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SBGold said:

socaltownie said:

Thursday is the big day. For long time readers you know I have been hoping SCT Jr. gets in. UCI and UCSB so far (as well as Reed. WL at UCD, UCSD and Harvey Mudd). The kids (cause they are uber) exploited a glitch in the system and he has a Cal ID number which is supposedly a very good sign. College admission Astrology indeed.
Waiting but not expecting it. Waitlisted at Davis and UCSB and not in at UCLA. She's gotten waitlisted at many other schools. In at McGill, Colgate, Indiana (Kelley Business), Udub and Wake Forest. Not sure at all where she should go.

Ivies I think come out on Thursday though I don't sense much interest from her.
FWIW - I've spent a lot of time in Montreal and think McGill is amazing. It's also a lot less money I believe...
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CarmelBear said:

Yup. My second son is awaiting. He has scored USC and Boston College and UCSB. Despite the maxed out UC application GPa, he got WL'd at UCLA. UCSD. AND IRVINE. unreal.
Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.
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juarezbear said:

CarmelBear said:

Yup. My second son is awaiting. He has scored USC and Boston College and UCSB. Despite the maxed out UC application GPa, he got WL'd at UCLA. UCSD. AND IRVINE. unreal.
Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.
I really feel for all of these kids applying this year. It's the apex of the echo boomers, which means application rates will slowly decline for a while.
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juarezbear said:


Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.

Last year, UCLA had an 8.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 52% elected to enroll at UCLA.

Last year, UC Berkeley had an 11.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 45% elected to enroll at Cal.

UCLA is a much more popular option these days, but I don't think it's necessarily because Cal is doing anything wrong (well, other than the continued employment of Jim Knowlton). I think it's just the reality of California's population dynamics, where 2/3 of the state's population is down south. That's why you see UCSD and UCI being so popular these days too.

As for USC, I see that the cheaters continue to sort of "fudge" the admissions data. They just reported a 9.2% acceptance rate for the class entering this Fall, and as usual, didn't report that another 1,400 kids are entering "Spring semester admits," boosting their overall acceptance rate to 11%. I hope they get their lunch money stolen in the B1G, and I hope it snows on them every time they play football in November in the midwest.

Good luck to SCT on your kid's Berkeley application! Nothing like having a kid go to Cal to rekindle one's love affair with ol' alma mater.
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CarmelBear said:

FWIH, lots of OOS kids getting in this year. I'm sure there's no correlation with the state 38 billion deficit. None at all.

I thought that they were starting to take fewer out-of-state kids lately, as the public sent UC the message that they should absolutely be prioritizing students from California. No?
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They were supposed to do that. But this year, sounds like lots of California kids getting waitlisted.
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My oldest is at USC film school. He chose USC over Cal which didn't initially sit well. But yeah -USC has been great. And he's working 12 hour days in his major. It's not a cake walk. But he loves it.
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BearBoarBlarney said:

juarezbear said:


Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.

Last year, UCLA had an 8.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 52% elected to enroll at UCLA.

Last year, UC Berkeley had an 11.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 45% elected to enroll at Cal.

UCLA is a much more popular option these days, but I don't think it's necessarily because Cal is doing anything wrong (well, other than the continued employment of Jim Knowlton). I think it's just the reality of California's population dynamics, where 2/3 of the state's population is down south. That's why you see UCSD and UCI being so popular these days too.

As for USC, I see that the cheaters continue to sort of "fudge" the admissions data. They just reported a 9.2% acceptance rate for the class entering this Fall, and as usual, didn't report that another 1,400 kids are entering "Spring semester admits," boosting their overall acceptance rate to 11%. I hope they get their lunch money stolen in the B1G, and I hope it snows on them every time they play football in November in the midwest.

Good luck to SCT on your kid's Berkeley application! Nothing like having a kid go to Cal to rekindle one's love affair with ol' alma mater.
UCLA is in a much more desirable area. Academically, it's neck and neck (though Cal still wins on brand recognition). However, for 18 year olds, Westwood (and LA) is far more attractive than Berkeley and the East Bay. The campus is also nicer/newer, it's safer, and there's just more stuff to do down there than up here.
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Good luck to all!
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CarmelBear said:

My oldest is at USC film school. He chose USC over Cal which didn't initially sit well. But yeah -USC has been great. And he's working 12 hour days in his major. It's not a cake walk. But he loves it.
Well duh. You choose USC over everyone if you're going to film school. SC really improved markedly over what it used to be like in say the late '70s when I went to Cal. About half the undergrads these days are in the business school, and Marshall has a stellar rep with employers. Your kid picks a major SC is good at, you have no right to complain.

The ethics classes should be amusing with all the scandals that go on there. I know enough SC alums (you live in SoCal you are surrounded) to know they are embarrassed. I might be embarrassed by Cal's basketball team over the last few years (pre-Madsen), but not by repeated scandals of just the most outrageous conduct. SC really has taken that to an unprecedented level.
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pingpong2 said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

juarezbear said:


Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.

Last year, UCLA had an 8.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 52% elected to enroll at UCLA.

Last year, UC Berkeley had an 11.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 45% elected to enroll at Cal.

UCLA is a much more popular option these days, but I don't think it's necessarily because Cal is doing anything wrong (well, other than the continued employment of Jim Knowlton). I think it's just the reality of California's population dynamics, where 2/3 of the state's population is down south. That's why you see UCSD and UCI being so popular these days too.

As for USC, I see that the cheaters continue to sort of "fudge" the admissions data. They just reported a 9.2% acceptance rate for the class entering this Fall, and as usual, didn't report that another 1,400 kids are entering "Spring semester admits," boosting their overall acceptance rate to 11%. I hope they get their lunch money stolen in the B1G, and I hope it snows on them every time they play football in November in the midwest.

Good luck to SCT on your kid's Berkeley application! Nothing like having a kid go to Cal to rekindle one's love affair with ol' alma mater.
UCLA is in a much more desirable area. Academically, it's neck and neck (though Cal still wins on brand recognition). However, for 18 year olds, Westwood (and LA) is far more attractive than Berkeley and the East Bay. The campus is also nicer/newer, it's safer, and there's just more stuff to do down there than up here.
Westwood has safety issues as well, especially at times with gangs. Less of an issue since UCLA has dramatically increased student housing campus adjacent. So much so the UCLA guaranties housing, and with additional food options, undergrads don't even have to venture into Westwood. The biggest issue Cal faces in the lack of student housing anywhere remotely near campus.

Admittedly, UCLA also has a weather advantage.
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Goobear said:

Good luck to all!
Yup, it sounds like everyone has kids with very good options. Time to congratulate them for inheriting such great brains!
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CarmelBear said:

FWIH, lots of OOS kids getting in this year. I'm sure there's no correlation with the state 38 billion deficit. None at all.
I thought California was terrible and everyone who can is fleeing the state?
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CarmelBear said:

They were supposed to do that. But this year, sounds like lots of California kids getting waitlisted.
Every school you mentioned for your kid my daughter got WL at (except UCLA).
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juarezbear said:

SBGold said:

socaltownie said:

Thursday is the big day. For long time readers you know I have been hoping SCT Jr. gets in. UCI and UCSB so far (as well as Reed. WL at UCD, UCSD and Harvey Mudd). The kids (cause they are uber) exploited a glitch in the system and he has a Cal ID number which is supposedly a very good sign. College admission Astrology indeed.
Waiting but not expecting it. Waitlisted at Davis and UCSB and not in at UCLA. She's gotten waitlisted at many other schools. In at McGill, Colgate, Indiana (Kelley Business), Udub and Wake Forest. Not sure at all where she should go.

Ivies I think come out on Thursday though I don't sense much interest from her.
FWIW - I've spent a lot of time in Montreal and think McGill is amazing. It's also a lot less money I believe...
I've been to Montreal a couple times and I agree. I'm hoping for McGill I think overall, maybe even ahead of Cal so she can spread her wings outside of California (she loves Cal though, and she's not bummed about UCLA or SC at all, good girl).
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juarezbear said:

CarmelBear said:

Yup. My second son is awaiting. He has scored USC and Boston College and UCSB. Despite the maxed out UC application GPa, he got WL'd at UCLA. UCSD. AND IRVINE. unreal.
Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.
My daughter thinks she might get into SC but get no money, so about 90K a year. She even said "NOPE"
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wifeisafurd said:

pingpong2 said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

juarezbear said:


Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.

Last year, UCLA had an 8.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 52% elected to enroll at UCLA.

Last year, UC Berkeley had an 11.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 45% elected to enroll at Cal.

UCLA is a much more popular option these days, but I don't think it's necessarily because Cal is doing anything wrong (well, other than the continued employment of Jim Knowlton). I think it's just the reality of California's population dynamics, where 2/3 of the state's population is down south. That's why you see UCSD and UCI being so popular these days too.

As for USC, I see that the cheaters continue to sort of "fudge" the admissions data. They just reported a 9.2% acceptance rate for the class entering this Fall, and as usual, didn't report that another 1,400 kids are entering "Spring semester admits," boosting their overall acceptance rate to 11%. I hope they get their lunch money stolen in the B1G, and I hope it snows on them every time they play football in November in the midwest.

Good luck to SCT on your kid's Berkeley application! Nothing like having a kid go to Cal to rekindle one's love affair with ol' alma mater.
UCLA is in a much more desirable area. Academically, it's neck and neck (though Cal still wins on brand recognition). However, for 18 year olds, Westwood (and LA) is far more attractive than Berkeley and the East Bay. The campus is also nicer/newer, it's safer, and there's just more stuff to do down there than up here.
Westwood has safety issues as well, especially at times with gangs. Less of an issue since UCLA has dramatically increased student housing campus adjacent. So much so the UCLA guaranties housing, and with additional food options, undergrads don't even have to venture into Westwood. The biggest issue Cal faces in the lack of student housing anywhere remotely near campus.

Admittedly, UCLA also has a weather advantage.

The average 18 yr old is going to pick the area of Westwood over Berkeley, I get that. But Berkeley/Bay Area is still a pretty great place... with some pretty good weather. And there are going to be some who prefer it over LA.

I would be curious to get some real data as to whether or not they actually have more spots than before reserved for applicants from California. I am fine with some OOS and INTL kids getting accepted, but if we're talking about similar academic profiles, the vast, vast majority should be from here.
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BearBoarBlarney said:

juarezbear said:


Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.

Last year, UCLA had an 8.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 52% elected to enroll at UCLA.

Last year, UC Berkeley had an 11.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 45% elected to enroll at Cal.

UCLA is a much more popular option these days, but I don't think it's necessarily because Cal is doing anything wrong (well, other than the continued employment of Jim Knowlton). I think it's just the reality of California's population dynamics, where 2/3 of the state's population is down south. That's why you see UCSD and UCI being so popular these days too.

As for USC, I see that the cheaters continue to sort of "fudge" the admissions data. They just reported a 9.2% acceptance rate for the class entering this Fall, and as usual, didn't report that another 1,400 kids are entering "Spring semester admits," boosting their overall acceptance rate to 11%. I hope they get their lunch money stolen in the B1G, and I hope it snows on them every time they play football in November in the midwest.

Good luck to SCT on your kid's Berkeley application! Nothing like having a kid go to Cal to rekindle one's love affair with ol' alma mater.
Thanks for the info....I didn't look at the overall numbers. Rather, I looked at the top LA area high schools, public and private (Harvard-Westlake, Flintridge Prep, Mira Costa, Beverly Hills, etc...), and in that cohort, a higher percentage enrolled at Cal than at UCLA. There's no arguing that UCLA is a more popular option these days and agree that a lot of that has to do with SoCal having a much higher population along with much better weather and a more upscale, physically clean, location.
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CarmelBear said:

My oldest is at USC film school. He chose USC over Cal which didn't initially sit well. But yeah -USC has been great. And he's working 12 hour days in his major. It's not a cake walk. But he loves it.
Totally get it. The acceptance rate at SC Film School is close to 1%. I taught grad school there for 21 years and work at Sony Pictures. It's the best film school on the planet.
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juarezbear said:

CarmelBear said:

My oldest is at USC film school. He chose USC over Cal which didn't initially sit well. But yeah -USC has been great. And he's working 12 hour days in his major. It's not a cake walk. But he loves it.
Totally get it. The acceptance rate at SC Film School is close to 1%. I taught grad school there for 21 years and work at Sony Pictures. It's the best film school on the planet.
Great to hear that, our youngest just got accepted into film school at USC! Still waiting on a remaining few in the coming days, but this was one of her top choices (if not the top)... I feel for all the kids this year for all they had to go through just to figure out the next step for college, esp with the UC process appearing to be quite different this year for many
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Big C said:

wifeisafurd said:

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Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.

Last year, UCLA had an 8.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 52% elected to enroll at UCLA.

Last year, UC Berkeley had an 11.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 45% elected to enroll at Cal.

UCLA is a much more popular option these days, but I don't think it's necessarily because Cal is doing anything wrong (well, other than the continued employment of Jim Knowlton). I think it's just the reality of California's population dynamics, where 2/3 of the state's population is down south. That's why you see UCSD and UCI being so popular these days too.

As for USC, I see that the cheaters continue to sort of "fudge" the admissions data. They just reported a 9.2% acceptance rate for the class entering this Fall, and as usual, didn't report that another 1,400 kids are entering "Spring semester admits," boosting their overall acceptance rate to 11%. I hope they get their lunch money stolen in the B1G, and I hope it snows on them every time they play football in November in the midwest.

Good luck to SCT on your kid's Berkeley application! Nothing like having a kid go to Cal to rekindle one's love affair with ol' alma mater.
UCLA is in a much more desirable area. Academically, it's neck and neck (though Cal still wins on brand recognition). However, for 18 year olds, Westwood (and LA) is far more attractive than Berkeley and the East Bay. The campus is also nicer/newer, it's safer, and there's just more stuff to do down there than up here.
Westwood has safety issues as well, especially at times with gangs. Less of an issue since UCLA has dramatically increased student housing campus adjacent. So much so the UCLA guaranties housing, and with additional food options, undergrads don't even have to venture into Westwood. The biggest issue Cal faces in the lack of student housing anywhere remotely near campus.

Admittedly, UCLA also has a weather advantage.

The average 18 yr old is going to pick the area of Westwood over Berkeley, I get that. But Berkeley/Bay Area is still a pretty great place... with some pretty good weather. And there are going to be some who prefer it over LA.

I would be curious to get some real data as to whether or not they actually have more spots than before reserved for applicants from California. I am fine with some OOS and INTL kids getting accepted, but if we're talking about similar academic profiles, the vast, vast majority should be from here.
Westwood is less dumpy sure, but it's boring and empty. I think the real mismatch is when you extend the choice to what is reachable within 30 minutes: Santa Monica, Venice, West Hollywood, Koreatown vs. Oakland and a dead SF downtown and it's no comparison for the average 18-22 year old.
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wifeisafurd said:

pingpong2 said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

juarezbear said:


Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.

Last year, UCLA had an 8.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 52% elected to enroll at UCLA.

Last year, UC Berkeley had an 11.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 45% elected to enroll at Cal.

UCLA is a much more popular option these days, but I don't think it's necessarily because Cal is doing anything wrong (well, other than the continued employment of Jim Knowlton). I think it's just the reality of California's population dynamics, where 2/3 of the state's population is down south. That's why you see UCSD and UCI being so popular these days too.

As for USC, I see that the cheaters continue to sort of "fudge" the admissions data. They just reported a 9.2% acceptance rate for the class entering this Fall, and as usual, didn't report that another 1,400 kids are entering "Spring semester admits," boosting their overall acceptance rate to 11%. I hope they get their lunch money stolen in the B1G, and I hope it snows on them every time they play football in November in the midwest.

Good luck to SCT on your kid's Berkeley application! Nothing like having a kid go to Cal to rekindle one's love affair with ol' alma mater.
UCLA is in a much more desirable area. Academically, it's neck and neck (though Cal still wins on brand recognition). However, for 18 year olds, Westwood (and LA) is far more attractive than Berkeley and the East Bay. The campus is also nicer/newer, it's safer, and there's just more stuff to do down there than up here.
Westwood has safety issues as well, especially at times with gangs. Less of an issue since UCLA has dramatically increased student housing campus adjacent. So much so the UCLA guaranties housing, and with additional food options, undergrads don't even have to venture into Westwood. The biggest issue Cal faces in the lack of student housing anywhere remotely near campus.

Admittedly, UCLA also has a weather advantage.
Gangs? Westwood? That's like saying Palo Alto around campus has gang problems. I'm not ever sure I've ever heard of anyone ever associate Westwood with gangs, especially north of Wilshire.
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concernedparent said:

Big C said:

wifeisafurd said:

pingpong2 said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

juarezbear said:


Price aside, USC is pretty great these days. I saw an article in the Chron I think that showed the acceptance rate into various UC's from CA high schools last year. What was interesting, and I think telling, is that UCLA had a lower acceptance rate, but Cal had a higher enrollment rate across the board. Mission High in SF had the highest acceptance rate into Cal - 40% which is wacky.

Last year, UCLA had an 8.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 52% elected to enroll at UCLA.

Last year, UC Berkeley had an 11.7% acceptance rate, and of those accepted, 45% elected to enroll at Cal.

UCLA is a much more popular option these days, but I don't think it's necessarily because Cal is doing anything wrong (well, other than the continued employment of Jim Knowlton). I think it's just the reality of California's population dynamics, where 2/3 of the state's population is down south. That's why you see UCSD and UCI being so popular these days too.

As for USC, I see that the cheaters continue to sort of "fudge" the admissions data. They just reported a 9.2% acceptance rate for the class entering this Fall, and as usual, didn't report that another 1,400 kids are entering "Spring semester admits," boosting their overall acceptance rate to 11%. I hope they get their lunch money stolen in the B1G, and I hope it snows on them every time they play football in November in the midwest.

Good luck to SCT on your kid's Berkeley application! Nothing like having a kid go to Cal to rekindle one's love affair with ol' alma mater.
UCLA is in a much more desirable area. Academically, it's neck and neck (though Cal still wins on brand recognition). However, for 18 year olds, Westwood (and LA) is far more attractive than Berkeley and the East Bay. The campus is also nicer/newer, it's safer, and there's just more stuff to do down there than up here.
Westwood has safety issues as well, especially at times with gangs. Less of an issue since UCLA has dramatically increased student housing campus adjacent. So much so the UCLA guaranties housing, and with additional food options, undergrads don't even have to venture into Westwood. The biggest issue Cal faces in the lack of student housing anywhere remotely near campus.

Admittedly, UCLA also has a weather advantage.

The average 18 yr old is going to pick the area of Westwood over Berkeley, I get that. But Berkeley/Bay Area is still a pretty great place... with some pretty good weather. And there are going to be some who prefer it over LA.

I would be curious to get some real data as to whether or not they actually have more spots than before reserved for applicants from California. I am fine with some OOS and INTL kids getting accepted, but if we're talking about similar academic profiles, the vast, vast majority should be from here.
Westwood is less dumpy sure, but it's boring and empty. I think the real mismatch is when you extend the choice to what is reachable within 30 minutes: Santa Monica, Venice, West Hollywood, Koreatown vs. Oakland and a dead SF downtown and it's no comparison for the average 18-22 year old.
We toured UCLA with my daughter last year and she was pretty excited about it. After the tour, she was not very excited. UCLA comes off as nice but a bit sterile, more like Mission Bay medical buildings more than anything else
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For those interested in such things, the UC Information Center posts the enrollment decisions of all admits by campus. (See link below)

For Cal's admitted class, 45% of those accepted last year ended up enrolling at Cal, and 13% of those admitted to both Cal & UCLA enrolled at UCLA.

On the flipside, for UCLA's admitted class, 52% of those accepted last year enrolled at UCLA, and 7% of those admitted to both Cal & UCLA enrolled at Berkeley.

One thing that bugs me is that there is this "fear mongering" that I've observed in high school seniors when it comes to UC Berkeley that doesn't seem to be present with UCLA. High schoolers seem to think that Cal is uber-competitive and less collaborative than UCLA, despite the fact that the student bodies at both schools are virtually the same. Probably the fear mongering is a problem of our own making, as I never heard the sort of nonsense that you now hear when you take a campus tour at Berkeley. Back in the late-'80s, no one I knew talked about rolling down "4.0 (GPA) Hill" or touching the "4.0 (GPA) Ball" on the Campanile Esplanade, and there was none of this silliness about not stepping "on the university seal in Memorial Glade or you'll fail your first class." Heck, Memorial Glade back in those days was occupied by the WWII-era "T-buildings." For all of Berkeley's prowess and reputation, the university and its students do a p!$$-poor job of marketing the school.

https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/about-us/information-center/admit-destinations
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SBGold said:


We toured UCLA with my daughter last year and she was pretty excited about it. After the tour, she was not very excited. UCLA comes off as nice but a bit sterile, more like Mission Bay medical buildings more than anything else

This might be the first time in history I've heard UCLA's campus being equated to UCSF's Mission Bay build out. I agree that UCLA is more sterile than Cal, but Mission Bay's med center is sterility on a whole other level.
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juarezbear said:

SBGold said:

socaltownie said:

Thursday is the big day. For long time readers you know I have been hoping SCT Jr. gets in. UCI and UCSB so far (as well as Reed. WL at UCD, UCSD and Harvey Mudd). The kids (cause they are uber) exploited a glitch in the system and he has a Cal ID number which is supposedly a very good sign. College admission Astrology indeed.
Waiting but not expecting it. Waitlisted at Davis and UCSB and not in at UCLA. She's gotten waitlisted at many other schools. In at McGill, Colgate, Indiana (Kelley Business), Udub and Wake Forest. Not sure at all where she should go.

Ivies I think come out on Thursday though I don't sense much interest from her.
FWIW - I've spent a lot of time in Montreal and think McGill is amazing. It's also a lot less money I believe...


There used to a huge scholarship (free tuition?) for Americans who go there to study French.
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