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Navy. Fleet Week. Early October. Blue Angel fly over. Cal alum SEAL (they exist) parachutes in to Memorial with game ball. South end zone filled with enlisted dress whites, every one else in dark blue t shirts "Navy blue out."

Make it happen!

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Hahaha, sounds fun! I have yet to meet a SEAL Cal grad, but I do have a friend (naval officer whose husband is a SEAL) and she did a tour with the Leap Frogs. They do parachute onto football fields. Happy to ping her if there is appetite...



https://www.navyleapfrogs.com/index.html

For the past several years, Hawaii's football team has been playing at a "temporary" stadium on campus with a limited amount of bleacher seating surrounding a track-and-field field. Aloha Stadium in Honolulu was deemed unsafe several years ago, and while there's been a lot of talk about building a replacement stadium in Honolulu, there has been neither funding nor construction on any replacement.

If I were in charge, I'd schedule my football team to play in Hawaii only after they once again have a real stadium to play in.

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The main downside with the Hawaii as it is presented here is the extra 13th game and its implications in wear and tear going into the bowl game. It might be better from that standpoint to play Hawaii as just one of the 4 OOC games.

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The 13th game is optional, but you can play in week zero. You would still have a bye.

Adding another regional team, like San Jose State would allow us to boost our revenues, viewership (play a name team in week zero) win total and stats. Might get a player like Ott over 2,000 yards and a Heisman.

BearSD said:

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For the past several years, Hawaii's football team has been playing at a "temporary" stadium on campus with a limited amount of bleacher seating surrounding a track-and-field field. Aloha Stadium in Honolulu was deemed unsafe several years ago, and while there's been a lot of talk about building a replacement stadium in Honolulu, there has been neither funding nor construction on any replacement.

If I were in charge, I'd schedule my football team to play in Hawaii only after they once again have a real stadium to play in.

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Didn't stop USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington and Arizona from scheduling them.

Look at it this way, visiting fans are guaranteed good seats. How big a stadium do visiting fans need anyway? If anything, it is a temporary advantage for visiting teams.

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BearSD said:

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For the past several years, Hawaii's football team has been playing at a "temporary" stadium on campus with a limited amount of bleacher seating surrounding a track-and-field field. Aloha Stadium in Honolulu was deemed unsafe several years ago, and while there's been a lot of talk about building a replacement stadium in Honolulu, there has been neither funding nor construction on any replacement.

If I were in charge, I'd schedule my football team to play in Hawaii only after they once again have a real stadium to play in.

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Look at it this way, visiting fans are guaranteed good seats. How big a stadium do visiting fans need anyway? If anything, it is a temporary advantage for visiting teams.

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Hawaii was always a great 13th game in the pre-playoff era, now with a postseason that adds 3-4+ games every year, not worth the trip.

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BearSD said:

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For the past several years, Hawaii's football team has been playing at a "temporary" stadium on campus with a limited amount of bleacher seating surrounding a track-and-field field. Aloha Stadium in Honolulu was deemed unsafe several years ago, and while there's been a lot of talk about building a replacement stadium in Honolulu, there has been neither funding nor construction on any replacement.

If I were in charge, I'd schedule my football team to play in Hawaii only after they once again have a real stadium to play in.

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Didn't stop USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington and Arizona from scheduling them.

Look at it this way, visiting fans are guaranteed good seats. How big a stadium do visiting fans need anyway? If anything, it is a temporary advantage for visiting teams.

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Stanford signed its 4-game contract with Hawaii before Aloha Stadium was shut down. Given how far in advance most non-conference football contracts are signed, it's likely that the others were also signed before Aloha Stadium was shut down.

Oregon signed its game contract with Hawaii way back in 2015, and Oregon cancelled the game in Honolulu that was supposed to be played in 2024. They are next scheduled to visit Hawaii in 2032, by which time they ought to be playing in a legitimate stadium for an FBS college football team. If you want to wait that long to schedule the Bears to play there, I'm fine with that.

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BearSD said:

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For the past several years, Hawaii's football team has been playing at a "temporary" stadium on campus with a limited amount of bleacher seating surrounding a track-and-field field. Aloha Stadium in Honolulu was deemed unsafe several years ago, and while there's been a lot of talk about building a replacement stadium in Honolulu, there has been neither funding nor construction on any replacement.

If I were in charge, I'd schedule my football team to play in Hawaii only after they once again have a real stadium to play in.

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Look at it this way, visiting fans are guaranteed good seats. How big a stadium do visiting fans need anyway? If anything, it is a temporary advantage for visiting teams.

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Hawaii was always a great 13th game in the pre-playoff era, now with a postseason that adds 3-4+ games every year, not worth the trip.

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When are we expecting to make the playoffs?

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BearSD said:

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For the past several years, Hawaii's football team has been playing at a "temporary" stadium on campus with a limited amount of bleacher seating surrounding a track-and-field field. Aloha Stadium in Honolulu was deemed unsafe several years ago, and while there's been a lot of talk about building a replacement stadium in Honolulu, there has been neither funding nor construction on any replacement.

If I were in charge, I'd schedule my football team to play in Hawaii only after they once again have a real stadium to play in.

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Didn't stop USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington and Arizona from scheduling them.

Look at it this way, visiting fans are guaranteed good seats. How big a stadium do visiting fans need anyway? If anything, it is a temporary advantage for visiting teams.

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Stanford signed its 4-game contract with Hawaii before Aloha Stadium was shut down. Given how far in advance most non-conference football contracts are signed, it's likely that the others were also signed before Aloha Stadium was shut down.

Oregon signed its game contract with Hawaii way back in 2015, and Oregon cancelled the game in Honolulu that was supposed to be played in 2024. They are next scheduled to visit Hawaii in 2032, by which time they ought to be playing in a legitimate stadium for an FBS college football team. If you want to wait that long to schedule the Bears to play there, I'm fine with that.

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Why does the size ot the stadium matter to visiting teams as long as we get our full ticket allotment? If anything, it means we will get better seats. Moreover, it is a good time to be recruiting Hawaii versus once they have the excitement of a new stadium.

One more point: Our Bears will have more than enough 6-hour plane flights to get to ACC road games. Shouldn't be adding more long trips for non-conference games.

That would include cancelling the future home-away series with the Florida Gators, if it was up to me. Schedule UCLA, Arizona, or ASU instead.

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One more point: Our Bears will have more than enough 6-hour plane flights to get to ACC road games. Shouldn't be adding more long trips for non-conference games.

That would include cancelling the future home-away series with the Florida Gators, if it was up to me. Schedule UCLA, Arizona, or ASU instead.

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It is 6 hours from SD but 5 from Oakland or SF.

Yes, it is still a relatively long flight, but Cal is the nearest D1 school to Hawaii and has the cheapest flights. Next to UH, Cal has the highest % of "Asian & Pacific Islanders" in the general student body. Hawaii should be a strategic advantage for us and was in the past.

My wish would be for our game there to be the last game of the regular season on Thanksgiving weekend, replacing SMU who we would play earlier, given we can play in week 0. It would be a nice bowl like tradition for the team evrr other year allowing us to better recruit Hawaii, and Polynesians in general, hopefully improving our lines.

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One more point: Our Bears will have more than enough 6-hour plane flights to get to ACC road games. Shouldn't be adding more long trips for non-conference games.

That would include cancelling the future home-away series with the Florida Gators, if it was up to me. Schedule UCLA, Arizona, or ASU instead.

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Not sure where the 6 hours is coming from, especially in the world of charter, but even with head winds, I think I have never had worse than just over 5 East to West (and that's from Philly...several ACC locations, including Pittsburgh this year, are closer...)
But, I think there are a few reasons to keep the OOC games west of the Mississippi, so I agree with that cancelling premise..

It is routinely 6 hours between the bay and Boston and/or Miami. I still don't think it's that big of a deal with charter simplicity. Get homework done. Sleep. Snack. Bond. Just like a bus. I would keep the same time tho, don't try to adjust at all. Darken the room shades when it will be dark out west, etc. keep the same clock times. Etc. eat dinner 3 hours early,

bearsandgiants said:

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It is routinely 6 hours between the bay and Boston and/or Miami. I still don't think it's that big of a deal with charter simplicity. Get homework done. Sleep. Snack. Bond. Just like a bus. I would keep the same time tho, don't try to adjust at all. Darken the room shades when it will be dark out west, etc. keep the same clock times. Etc. eat dinner 3 hours early,

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Has the athletic department committed to Cal teams traveling to ACC road contests via charter flights? If so, I missed that. Only thing I saw was Knowlton saying "among the options we are evaluating are ... using charter flights".

There is that $9,000.00 a year from the video game company.

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A Clemson site ranked CMS ahead of (the other) Death Valley? Be still my heart.

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Said best stadium in the ACC. And Call got knocked down to 4th overall due to lack of attendance, crowd energy and game experience. Pretty good considering Clemson has never played in CMS. Don't be surprised if Cal gets a fair number of visiting fans to games this year.

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And they will all be surprised (or maybe they won't) about the poor attendance of Cal fans.

I'll have what this guy's having!

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bearsandgiants said:

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It is routinely 6 hours between the bay and Boston and/or Miami. I still don't think it's that big of a deal with charter simplicity. Get homework done. Sleep. Snack. Bond. Just like a bus. I would keep the same time tho, don't try to adjust at all. Darken the room shades when it will be dark out west, etc. keep the same clock times. Etc. eat dinner 3 hours early,

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Has the athletic department committed to Cal teams traveling to ACC road contests via charter flights? If so, I missed that. Only thing I saw was Knowlton saying "among the options we are evaluating are ... using charter flights".

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For football, I thought they had been doing charters for years.

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I would keep the same time tho, don't try to adjust at all. Darken the room shades when it will be dark out west, etc. keep the same clock times. Etc. eat dinner 3 hours early,

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It is the opposite. It gets dark 3 hours earlier on the East Coast. Meals are three hours earlier.

In my experience, the biggest issue when traveling east is early morning meetings and trying to fall asleep at night.

I agree with your premise, if we play late enough and the schedule permits, let the players sleep in.

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bearsandgiants said:

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It is routinely 6 hours between the bay and Boston and/or Miami. I still don't think it's that big of a deal with charter simplicity. Get homework done. Sleep. Snack. Bond. Just like a bus. I would keep the same time tho, don't try to adjust at all. Darken the room shades when it will be dark out west, etc. keep the same clock times. Etc. eat dinner 3 hours early,

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Has the athletic department committed to Cal teams traveling to ACC road contests via charter flights? If so, I missed that. Only thing I saw was Knowlton saying "among the options we are evaluating are ... using charter flights".

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For football, I thought they had been doing charters for years.

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For football, you're right, I just looked it up. The football team flew charter to every 2023 away game except (obviously) Stanford: https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/2023-college-football-charter-flights/89341

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I'll have what this guy's having!

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9-3 projection at this point in the season? Sounds about right.

SLTX Bear said:

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I'll have what this guy's having!

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Note that this precedes some of our exciting transfers that came through in April/May like Dyches, Grayes, Yaites, Wagoner, Bollers, Tounkara, & Miller to name a few.

But yeah, seems pretty reasonable. Takes the bullish approach to games like NC State & Miami where Wilcox can pull out an upset and has us losing against Auburn, FSU, and SMU. I think the only thing stopping us from doing this is that we have a tendency to always lose a few games we should win under Wilcox.

I'd agree with this as our ceiling for next season even if the exact games we win/lose might change.

So far it has been wise to never overestimate JWs ability to over perform

I hope he manages to surprise me, but i would not bet on it

I think the key man this coming season is Bloesch, we do have a potential stretch goal of a 9-3 season if the offense fires on all cylinders and overachieves. Conversely, we could end up with a 6 or even 5 win season if it underperforms..

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I think the key man this coming season is Bloesch, we do have a potential stretch goal of a 9-3 season if the offense fires on all cylinders and overachieves. Conversely, we could end up with a 6 or even 5 win season if it underperforms..

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This is the way I see it. Bloesch is the biggest question mark and the second, QB performance, is intertwined with that. Third is generating a pass rush. We have a lot of games that are winnable if we are good but we can easily lose if we are not (as in past years), without much separation between the two producing a big difference in results.