Jeff Tedford sighting at Cal as the 10-2 team from 2004 is honored at Big Game. Tedford's embrace with Aaron Rodgers captured on the TV broadcast.#Cal #GoBears @CalBears247 @BarkBoard https://t.co/bjQUwO5xTh pic.twitter.com/BKAA9WYnoT

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He kept that windbreaker dad really does still love us https://t.co/B3DDPldLdH pic.twitter.com/aHTr65lHg6

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When half his recruits are able to spell "haul uf faem"?

Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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He won a pac championship.

MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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Getting into the Cal Athletics Hall of Fame hasn't historically been too high of a bar. I mean, it's not like retiring a player's number or something. Of course Jeff Tedford should be in there!

Jeff Tedford made Cal football relevant again. He not only helped get CMS retrofitted and updated but he also packed it on Saturdays. I'd all but given up on Cal football thanks to how bad it was when I was a student. Tedford got me to care about the program (much to the detriment of my mental health!). I doubt I'm alone in this. Tedford's early years likely created quite a few Cal fans. (Some of my non-Cal alumni friends became Cal fans during that time, too.)

MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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Fun fact: One of the former Cal head coaches in the Cal hall of fame has this record...

okaydo said:

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Fun fact: One of the former Cal head coaches in the Cal hall of fame has this record...

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Ray Willsey
Easy peasy, knowing how to spell his last name is the hardest part. Show me a tough question.

upsetof86 said:

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okaydo said:

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Fun fact: One of the former Cal head coaches in the Cal hall of fame has this record...

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Ray Willsey
Easy peasy, knowing how to spell his last name is the hardest part. Show me a tough question.

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Ridiculous. Coach Coach Ray Wilsey

MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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Hey math teacher… there were no playoffs then. He had two of the greatest cal teams in the last 40 years. If you're going to call balls and strikes, be familiar with the strike zone

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Jeff Tedford made Cal football relevant again. He not only helped get CMS retrofitted and updated but he also packed it on Saturdays. I'd all but given up on Cal football thanks to how bad it was when I was a student. Tedford got me to care about the program (much to the detriment of my mental health!). I doubt I'm alone in this. Tedford's early years likely created quite a few Cal fans. (Some of my non-Cal alumni friends became Cal fans during that time, too.)

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Like you shared, because of JT I am still a Bear fan. Without those teams, I can't say. Our problem is that we continue to think we can "get back there" and win like that.

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Jeff Tedford made Cal football relevant again. He not only helped get CMS retrofitted and updated but he also packed it on Saturdays. I'd all but given up on Cal football thanks to how bad it was when I was a student. Tedford got me to care about the program (much to the detriment of my mental health!). I doubt I'm alone in this. Tedford's early years likely created quite a few Cal fans. (Some of my non-Cal alumni friends became Cal fans during that time, too.)

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I have been cheering Cal football since attending my first Cal football game in person at CMS in 1964 with my older brother (Cal vs Navy at CMS - Craig Morton vs Roger Staubauch), and i rate Tedford's years as Cal's HC as maybe slightly above Mike White's as the most exciting era of Cal fb during my lifetime of Cal fandom. And, is Tedford not Cal's winningest HC?

He will be there. Give it time. The academic thing made a lot of people who matter very mad and embarrassed, but as we keep slogging to .500 years the nostalgia factor kicks in more and more.

MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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He did a damn good job. If USC hadn't been on such a run, things could have been very different

.. Though at the same time, almost the entire rest of the P12 was down so maybe that evens out.

okaydo said:

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Fun fact: One of the former Cal head coaches in the Cal hall of fame has this record...

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To Math, I guess that answers your question about standards. If that's the line, Tedford clears easily

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01Bear said:

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Jeff Tedford made Cal football relevant again. He not only helped get CMS retrofitted and updated but he also packed it on Saturdays. I'd all but given up on Cal football thanks to how bad it was when I was a student. Tedford got me to care about the program (much to the detriment of my mental health!). I doubt I'm alone in this. Tedford's early years likely created quite a few Cal fans. (Some of my non-Cal alumni friends became Cal fans during that time, too.)

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Like you shared, because of JT I am still a Bear fan. Without those teams, I can't say. Our problem is that we continue to think we can "get back there" and win like that.

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You don't think Cal can be a nationally ranked team again? Your belief is that Cal can only field mediocre teams? That actually explains your support for Wilcox.

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MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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He won a pac championship.

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Many of us think that the tie in 2006 is flat-out silly, given USC smacked down Cal that year. Cal had the chance to "win" the conference and failed.

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LunchTime said:

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MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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He won a pac championship.

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Many of us think that the tie in 2006 is flat-out silly, given USC smacked down Cal that year. Cal had the chance to "win" the conference and failed.

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"Smacked down?" Didn't it come down to a final play in the Coliseum in which Johathan McKonnen slipped in the goal area?

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MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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He won a pac championship.

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Many of us think that the tie in 2006 is flat-out silly, given USC smacked down Cal that year. Cal had the chance to "win" the conference and failed.

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2006 against sc was far from a smackdown

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LunchTime said:

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MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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He won a pac championship.

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Many of us think that the tie in 2006 is flat-out silly, given USC smacked down Cal that year. Cal had the chance to "win" the conference and failed.

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"Smacked down?" Didn't it come down to a final play in the Coliseum in which Johathan McKonnen slipped in the goal area?

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that was 04

06 was a grinding defensive affair where we had a lead for a lot of it (something funny like 9-8 because we safetied them). they got a score or two late to make the final more lopsided but it was a defensive slugfest

MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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Almost all Halls of Fame are diluted with mediocrity. In the entirety of football history at Cal only a few coaches have truly approached greatness. Andy Smith's record was unparalleled but a lot of the opposition was suspect. Waldorf had a great run but fell short in 3 Rose Bowls. Both had better win percentages but fewer total wins than Tedford. Any question of his inclusion in Cal's football pantheon is ludicrous. One interesting note: per Wikipedia, from 1887-92, Cal went 18-4 with no head coach!

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okaydo said:

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Fun fact: One of the former Cal head coaches in the Cal hall of fame has this record...

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To Math, I guess that answers your question about standards. If that's the line, Tedford clears easily

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Ray Willsey benefited from being an alum. And his approach, in many respects, was similar to that of Wilcox.

Those results scream Wilcox, to be sure

bencgilmore said:

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Those results scream Wilcox, to be sure

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Willsey had tougher competition and a student body that was hostile to football.

southseasbear said:

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bencgilmore said:

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Those results scream Wilcox, to be sure

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Willsey had tougher competition and a student body that was hostile to football.

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I'm not sure the current generation of students are appreciably more supportive than those of Willsey's era. I was stunned at the barren wasteland that was the student section at the Syracuse game. Is indifference significantly better than hostility? The true hostility at Cal is among the faculty and is of longstanding tenure, certainly dating to my years on campus in the mid 50s.

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Those results scream Wilcox, to be sure

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Willsey had tougher competition and a student body that was hostile to football.

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I'm not sure the current generation of students are appreciably more supportive than those of Willsey's era. I was stunned at the barren wasteland that was the student section at the Syracuse game. Is indifference significantly better than hostility? The true hostility at Cal is among the faculty and is of longstanding tenure, certainly dating to my years on campus in the mid 50s.

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The difference is that the football team did not get exclusive use to any practice facility back then and did not have the Simpson Performance Center. Back then they had to deal with students disrupting the practices. If you read Marv Levy's autobiography, it's shocking how the team had to search out field space almost daily. Of course, Willsey came right after Levy.

When does Bruce Snyder, who led Cal to it's last New Year's Day bowl and a #7 national ranking, join the Cal HOF?

bencgilmore said:

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MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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He won a pac championship.

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Many of us think that the tie in 2006 is flat-out silly, given USC smacked down Cal that year. Cal had the chance to "win" the conference and failed.

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2006 against sc was far from a smackdown

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Spin it how you will, the final score was 23--9 in favor of USC, which by my calculation, is a 14 point victory for USC. I remember the game well. USC's final score was in the middle of the 4th quarter... not exactly a last minute meaningless score.

In a series where fairly recent scores have been 61-0 and 63-28, perhaps a 14 point spread pales in comparison, but 14 points is 14 points. And, in football, 14 points is a lot.

Those who state that Tedford never even led Cal to a major bowl game are, quite simply, correct, even though it tends to piss off the sunshine pumpers. Don't get me wrong...the first few years of Tedford wereterrific. But the last few years set the program waaaaaay back. The man does not deserve a statue or any sort of Hall of Fame status, because part of achieving legendary status is longevity (and winning a major bowl game or two). And for those who point out he is the "winningest" coach ever at Cal, his is also the "losingest."

I am a bit tired of how, when I post anything against the sunshine pumping baseline that exists on this board, people immediately mouth off (I'm not specifically talking about you). **** gets old.

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When does Bruce Snyder, who led Cal to it's last New Year's Day bowl and a #7 national ranking, join the Cal HOF?

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I'm a Snyder fan, but... five seasons: one good; one very good. Wish we had had another 5-10 with that guy.

southseasbear said:

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When does Bruce Snyder, who led Cal to it's last New Year's Day bowl and a #7 national ranking, join the Cal HOF?

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Wasn't at Cal long enough, and only had one good season (albeit "ONE outstanding season"), while he was here.

I'm guessing Willsey got more credit for his playing career at Cal than Tedford received for his playing career at Fresno State.

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southseasbear said:

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When does Bruce Snyder, who led Cal to it's last New Year's Day bowl and a #7 national ranking, join the Cal HOF?

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I'm a Snyder fan, but... five seasons: one good; one very good. Wish we had had another 5-10 with that guy.

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I'm confident Bob Bockrath won't be invited into the HOF.

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MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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He won a pac championship.

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Many of us think that the tie in 2006 is flat-out silly, given USC smacked down Cal that year. Cal had the chance to "win" the conference and failed.

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2006 against sc was far from a smackdown

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Spin it how you will, the final score was 23--9 in favor of USC, which by my calculation, is a 14 point victory for USC. I remember the game well. USC's final score was in the middle of the 4th quarter... not exactly a last minute meaningless score.

In a series where fairly recent scores have been 61-0 and 63-28, perhaps a 14 point spread pales in comparison, but 14 points is 14 points. And, in football, 14 points is a lot.

Those who state that Tedford never even led Cal to a major bowl game are, quite simply, correct, even though it tends to piss off the sunshine pumpers. Don't get me wrong...the first few years of Tedford wereterrific. But the last few years set the program waaaaaay back. The man does not deserve a statue or any sort of Hall of Fame status, because part of achieving legendary status is longevity (and winning a major bowl game or two). And for those who point out he is the "winningest" coach ever at Cal, his is also the "losingest."

I am a bit tired of how, when I post anything against the sunshine pumping baseline that exists on this board, people immediately mouth off (I'm not specifically talking about you). **** gets old.

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Chapman_is_Gone said:

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LunchTime said:

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MathTeacherMike said:

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Love that Tedford led of out of a dark time (Holmoe), and - for a brief period of time - put Cal football on the map. But, he didn't lead us to any colleges playoffs, BCS bowls, Rose Bowls, New Years Day bowls or a single conference championship. He led us to what? A 2-loss season that did not include a bowl win? He was a good coach at Cal - not great, but good. Are our standards so low that "good" is Hall of Fame worthy?

The Al Grigsby hall of fame?

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He won a pac championship.

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Many of us think that the tie in 2006 is flat-out silly, given USC smacked down Cal that year. Cal had the chance to "win" the conference and failed.

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As it turns out, the many of you don't have a say.

You should learn to separate objective reality from your opinion.