DoubtfulBear said:

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100%, only an idiot would give up $2.5M per conference win

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AunBear89 said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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100%, only an idiot would give up $2.5M per conference win

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Wow. You are as bad at math as you are at hot takes.

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bearsandgiants said:

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Only way he's gone, IMO, is if he wants to leave because he's embarrassed and is willing to take a smaller buyout than the 15MM still owed. I give that a 10% chance. Would be great. Probably blows up all recruiting efforts for next year though, we'd still have Knowlton, and frankly, I don't think it's a great idea. At least Lyons would have the final say on the hire. I think. Most likely, Wilcox gets next year to take this team to the ACC Championship game (and/or FBS playoff) with a big NIL budget. One more, final shot at glory. I think that's the plan, even though it likely fails. We probably lose Big Game for the first time in awhile next year, have another .500 season, and that result is the final straw, with Wilcox leaving in disgrace. Even if we do somehow have a breakout year next year (and we should given our schedule), we'll finish the year needing to do yet another extension. Imagine that scenario. Lol. If I were running things, I'd can Knowlton this winter, give Wilcox his playoff ultimatum and let the new AD know that's the case. Then spend the year putting together a list of best possible replacement candidates. If Wilcox somehow DOES pull a rabbit out of his hat and get us to a playoff, I'd give him a SIX year extension at 7.5MM per year, with 15MM guaranteed (so 2 years) and nothing better than that. Take it or leave it. It seems more than fair to me given his disastrous body of work. And if 3-4 years into that favorable-to-Cal extension, Wilcox keeps winning and wants to build a legacy here, then maybe we do a an additional 4 year guarantee with the next extension, but nothing more.

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Rushinbear said:

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Cal88 said:

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98%. 15 million reasons for his return.

No amount of *****ing on this board is going to change that.

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can you conclude anything other than that Knowlton is perfectly satisfied with JW? 15 million or no.

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After three seasons at SMU, Rhett Lashlee has as many conference wins in three years (21-3, 17 game win streak, 20-1 in last 21) as Justin Wilcox had in his entire seven year Pac-12 tenure (21-37, now 23-43). An impressive coach who is going to get some major offers soon.

— Avinash Kunnath (@avinashkunnath) December 1, 2024

oskithepimp said:

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For those in the know, what are the odds Wilcox is back next season?

100%? We can't afford to fire him. Here comes another 6-7 record at best if our players don't bail in the portal.

50%? Someone's rich uncle dies and they dump the money into giving him the boot.

0%? The big donors have had enough just like the rest of us and pony up to save the day.

I'm not even close to being dialed into any insider talk so I'd love to know people's thoughts are so I can mentally prep for a ****storm with Wilcox or an optimism hurricane with someone else at the helm.

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Rushinbear said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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Only way he's gone, IMO, is if he wants to leave because he's embarrassed and is willing to take a smaller buyout than the 15MM still owed. I give that a 10% chance. Would be great. Probably blows up all recruiting efforts for next year though, we'd still have Knowlton, and frankly, I don't think it's a great idea. At least Lyons would have the final say on the hire. I think. Most likely, Wilcox gets next year to take this team to the ACC Championship game (and/or FBS playoff) with a big NIL budget. One more, final shot at glory. I think that's the plan, even though it likely fails. We probably lose Big Game for the first time in awhile next year, have another .500 season, and that result is the final straw, with Wilcox leaving in disgrace. Even if we do somehow have a breakout year next year (and we should given our schedule), we'll finish the year needing to do yet another extension. Imagine that scenario. Lol. If I were running things, I'd can Knowlton this winter, give Wilcox his playoff ultimatum and let the new AD know that's the case. Then spend the year putting together a list of best possible replacement candidates. If Wilcox somehow DOES pull a rabbit out of his hat and get us to a playoff, I'd give him a SIX year extension at 7.5MM per year, with 15MM guaranteed (so 2 years) and nothing better than that. Take it or leave it. It seems more than fair to me given his disastrous body of work. And if 3-4 years into that favorable-to-Cal extension, Wilcox keeps winning and wants to build a legacy here, then maybe we do a an additional 4 year guarantee with the next extension, but nothing more.

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we've had almost 6 mos. of Lyons in office. any read on him yet? or is he not exposing any hints? even moves on the academic side might give us something to interpret.

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Econ141 said:

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After three seasons at SMU, Rhett Lashlee has as many conference wins in three years (21-3, 17 game win streak, 20-1 in last 21) as Justin Wilcox had in his entire seven year Pac-12 tenure (21-37, now 23-43). An impressive coach who is going to get some major offers soon.

— Avinash Kunnath (@avinashkunnath) December 1, 2024

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89Bear said:

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Econ141 said:

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After three seasons at SMU, Rhett Lashlee has as many conference wins in three years (21-3, 17 game win streak, 20-1 in last 21) as Justin Wilcox had in his entire seven year Pac-12 tenure (21-37, now 23-43). An impressive coach who is going to get some major offers soon.

— Avinash Kunnath (@avinashkunnath) December 1, 2024

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Serious question: Does Wilcox see all of the statistics out there? How does he respond to that?

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sebstyle25 said:

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should it? Should beating a G5 team in a meaningless bowl game really atone for 8 years of losing conference records?

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Strykur said:

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The bowl game could determine a lot

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Strykur said:

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The bowl game could determine a lot

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dmh65 said:

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What is Wilcox's next job after Cal? Goes back to being a defensive coordinator?

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89Bear said:

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Econ141 said:

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After three seasons at SMU, Rhett Lashlee has as many conference wins in three years (21-3, 17 game win streak, 20-1 in last 21) as Justin Wilcox had in his entire seven year Pac-12 tenure (21-37, now 23-43). An impressive coach who is going to get some major offers soon.

— Avinash Kunnath (@avinashkunnath) December 1, 2024

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Serious question: Does Wilcox see all of the statistics out there? How does he respond to that?

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