Competition, they are moving to fbs and have nil war chest of 50 million
They will recruit well in the central valley
They will recruit well in the central valley
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Still will be riding it out in a MWC or hollowed-out PAC-12, and Sacramento is more interesting than Fresno, but that's it
Need to schedule these guys to lower the travel burden.
Michael Vick talking with them as potential coach
To be clear, it is all talk as of now. They play football in a 21000 seat erector set stadium and play basketball in a 1000 seat gym. Their only good time in football was with Troy Taylor for 3 years and are now back to normal with a losing record. Basketball is normally a bottom dweller too.
Chabbear said:
To be clear, it is all talk as of now. They play football in a 21000 seat erector set stadium and play basketball in a 1000 seat gym. Their only good time in football was with Troy Taylor for 3 years and are now back to normal with a losing record. Basketball is normally a bottom dweller too.
Suppose they were to move their home games to the A's/Rivercats baseball stadium (with a fb conversion)?
NEW: Sac State is discussing hiring Michael Vick as part of a bid to jump to the FBS.
— Amanda Christovich (@achristovichh) December 17, 2024
Current NIL situation: Hornets have $50M in *commitments* contingent upon a bid to Pac-12 or other FBS league, a source says. Payments would be doled out over 10 years.https://t.co/LSpNKrJYnq
UC Davis will follow soon given they are rivals. When the Pac12 collapse happened I thought one plan was for working with Sac State, UC Davis, SDSU, and FSU. With Cal, furd, OSU, and WSU you got something better than Mountain West. Add the Nevada schools too.
NCAA needs less FBS schools, not more.
The Rivercats ballpark is only 11,000 and I don't think it could be configured for football easily,
not to mention it is 8 miles from campus.
not to mention it is 8 miles from campus.
Chabbear said:
Their only good time in football was with Troy Taylor for 3 years and are now back to normal with a losing record. Basketball is normally a bottom dweller too.
In other words, they're kind of like us.
Although Sutter Health Park is going through renovations to accommodate the A's, which includes a capacity increase, there are zero plans for it to be used as a home for Sac St football. Sac St will eventually build a new stadium on campus. I get the idea of a splash hiring with Vick's name being thrown around, but it would be the worst thing they could do to hire that unrepentant POS with no coaching experience. He's not PrimeTime 2.0, and the negative baggage is way too much. Unlike Cal, Sac St finally has the administration and backers to take the program to another level be it MWC or Pac12. The Pac12 is a stretch. UC Davis is moving all sports except football (for now) to the MWC and I could see Sac St doing the same soon which would be a logical step. Although, there are rumors of a rift between Sac St and the MWC, so who knows.
Just curious to see it play out being a Bear and Hornet fan.
Just curious to see it play out being a Bear and Hornet fan.
Rae Caruth as OC with Kellen Winslow as TE and Henry Ruggs as WR Coach. OJ Simpson RB coach with Ray Lewis as DC/LB and Alonzo Spellman DL and Adam Jones handling DB duties.
Sacramento State is in the process of finalizing a deal to hire UNLV OC Brennan Marion as its new head coach, sources tell me and @chris_hummer for @CBSSports/@247Sports.
— Matt Zenitz (@mzenitz) December 17, 2024
Marion helped UNLV win 19 games the last two years. Previously worked at Texas and Pitt, where he coached… pic.twitter.com/wwnBDzlC6w
Great to hear that sanity prevailed in the building. Great choice too. Stingers Up!
Looks like a good hire.WavyBear said:Sacramento State is in the process of finalizing a deal to hire UNLV OC Brennan Marion as its new head coach, sources tell me and @chris_hummer for @CBSSports/@247Sports.
— Matt Zenitz (@mzenitz) December 17, 2024
Marion helped UNLV win 19 games the last two years. Previously worked at Texas and Pitt, where he coached… pic.twitter.com/wwnBDzlC6w
Mike Vick is an awful human being. Hide your perros.
CALiforniALUM said:
Mike Vick is an awful human being. Hide your perros.
Anyone who would do dog fighting likely had a terrible if not violent and abusive upbringing. It doesn't excuse it but it likely explains it and it just makes me feel bad for him as a little guy, and of course for the dogs. He served time, he did a bunch of community service and animal rights stuff too, I believe. You can't erase the past and I don't know if he has, or will ever have, atoned for his misdeeds, but I feel like he's an easy target and probably was as a kid, too, for an angry mom, brother, uncle or dad. This stuff is easy humor, but ultimately just very sad. I hope he truly feels sorry for what he did and can find peace.
Check out the book "The Lost Dogs" by Jim Gorant which contains stories from the folks who adopted some of the broken dogs lucky enough to live through Vick's hell. Apparently, Vick had to be forced to pay the court-ordered restitution money intended for the costly care for his dogs. If Vick had shown any interest in the welfare of those dogs after they were rescued (he didn't), or if he had used some of his millions to help the everyday people who went into debt to give his dogs homes and make them whole again (he did not), I might believe in his story of redemption. Vick personally ordered the killing of 'loser dogs' and participated in their drowning, slamming, hanging, and electrocution. The extreme depravity of those acts offers the probability that true remorse might not even be possible. He may have grown up with this barbarism, but it doesn't mean you have to continue what any semi-reasonable and coherent person knows is very wrong. Frankly, his public remorse was nothing but a show to get back to making millions from football.bearsandgiants said:CALiforniALUM said:
Mike Vick is an awful human being. Hide your perros.
Anyone who would do dog fighting likely had a terrible if not violent and abusive upbringing. It doesn't excuse it but it likely explains it and it just makes me feel bad for him as a little guy, and of course for the dogs. He served time, he did a bunch of community service and animal rights stuff too, I believe. You can't erase the past and I don't know if he has, or will ever have, atoned for his misdeeds, but I feel like he's an easy target and probably was as a kid, too, for an angry mom, brother, uncle or dad. This stuff is easy humor, but ultimately just very sad. I hope he truly feels sorry for what he did and can find peace.
Off my soapbox…..
Watch out Sac State with Marion! There is *a lot* of overlooked football talent from mid Central Valley to Oregon. Skattebo was a Sac State > ASU Transfer that was unrated coming out of an area high school and is now first team All American RB.
Sac's bball 'arena', The Nest, seats 1100.
The President and AD met w Vick and Reggie Bush? What does that tell you?
New HC known for the GoGo Offense, has already inked 5 FBS players.
The President and AD met w Vick and Reggie Bush? What does that tell you?
New HC known for the GoGo Offense, has already inked 5 FBS players.
thx g6, the lost dogs is now on the reading list
**** michael vick
**** michael vick
With so much instability and upheaval in the college game currently, with a few big winners and many programs on life-support, it is either a really bad time to move to the fbs, or it is a brilliant move. I can't tell.
If he is at Sac State for 2 years, I will be amazed. His track record shows that.
C6Bear said:Check out the book "The Lost Dogs" by Jim Gorant which contains stories from the folks who adopted some of the broken dogs lucky enough to live through Vick's hell. Apparently, Vick had to be forced to pay the court-ordered restitution money intended for the costly care for his dogs. If Vick had shown any interest in the welfare of those dogs after they were rescued (he didn't), or if he had used some of his millions to help the everyday people who went into debt to give his dogs homes and make them whole again (he did not), I might believe in his story of redemption. Vick personally ordered the killing of 'loser dogs' and participated in their drowning, slamming, hanging, and electrocution. The extreme depravity of those acts offers the probability that true remorse might not even be possible. He may have grown up with this barbarism, but it doesn't mean you have to continue what any semi-reasonable and coherent person knows is very wrong. Frankly, his public remorse was nothing but a show to get back to making millions from football.bearsandgiants said:CALiforniALUM said:
Mike Vick is an awful human being. Hide your perros.
Anyone who would do dog fighting likely had a terrible if not violent and abusive upbringing. It doesn't excuse it but it likely explains it and it just makes me feel bad for him as a little guy, and of course for the dogs. He served time, he did a bunch of community service and animal rights stuff too, I believe. You can't erase the past and I don't know if he has, or will ever have, atoned for his misdeeds, but I feel like he's an easy target and probably was as a kid, too, for an angry mom, brother, uncle or dad. This stuff is easy humor, but ultimately just very sad. I hope he truly feels sorry for what he did and can find peace.
Off my soapbox…..
Isn't that how they say serial killers start out? By killing like pets & shyt, and captive animals?
AD Orr hired a gypsy BBall coach who brought in mercenaries, had modest success, bounced, and now they're in shambles.
Seems to me the Sac St. sports weirdness starts above Orr with the President who established the "Combat U" program which, quoted from the Sac St website "will provide an entry point for students seeking a world-class education and high-level combat sports training and competition opportunities." Great, let's educate kids while training them to beat their brains out. I know, the same could be said about football, couldn't it? Fortunately, the "Combat U" link leads to a blank page.
This President is the same guy who is banging the drum to move Sac St up to FBS level. Good luck with that.
This President is the same guy who is banging the drum to move Sac St up to FBS level. Good luck with that.
What message does it send to meet w Michael Vick?
Supposedly some teams will share the new "The Well" IM facility.
Supposedly some teams will share the new "The Well" IM facility.
HearstMining said:
Seems to me the Sac St. sports weirdness starts above Orr with the President who established the "Combat U" program which, quoted from the Sac St website "will provide an entry point for students seeking a world-class education and high-level combat sports training and competition opportunities." Great, let's educate kids while training them to beat their brains out. I know, the same could be said about football, couldn't it? Fortunately, the "Combat U" link leads to a blank page.
This President is the same guy who is banging the drum to move Sac St up to FBS level. Good luck with that.
Is that better than ROTC?
Sac State is not fooling around.
The FB team uses some of that NIL to go get Georgia QB Jaden Rashada
Then the MBB team brings on Shaq as their GM
Why can't we be more like Sac State?!?!
Sources - Shaquille O'Neal agrees to be Sacramento State's GM - ESPN
The FB team uses some of that NIL to go get Georgia QB Jaden Rashada
Then the MBB team brings on Shaq as their GM
Why can't we be more like Sac State?!?!
Sources - Shaquille O'Neal agrees to be Sacramento State's GM - ESPN
Cal weak. Cal need to be strong like Sac State.
Sac State strong.
Sac State strong.
They are making a STRONG move, they have the advantage of being a state funded school. LO L
The way things are going we may have to hope that sacstate,ucd and sjs will ask us to join their conference
The way things are going we may have to hope that sacstate,ucd and sjs will ask us to join their conference
Hornet Nation!
bear2034 said:
Cal weak. Cal need to be strong like Sac State.
Sac State strong.
They have no internal conflicts over what it means to be good at football like we do. More power to them.
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