okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

What is the scoring average against Cal under Sonny?

bearister said:

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What is the scoring average against Cal under Sonny?

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My guess is probably something around 40/game.

Pappy Waldorf didn't have to play a GOOD UNLV team!

SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

I would be interested to see the ranking by winning (or losing ) percentage of each head coach.

Go Bears!

calbear80 said:

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I would be interested to see the ranking by winning (or losing ) percentage of each head coach.

Go Bears!

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It's almost as if that data is 5 seconds away from you here on the internet!

okaydo said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

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I think it's quite sad that the best coach in cal history still only averaged 8-4 records. It's good, for sure. But damn that's sad. And it was ages ago.

bearsandgiants said:

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okaydo said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

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I think it's quite sad that the best coach in cal history still only averaged 8-4 records. It's good, for sure. But damn that's sad. And it was ages ago.

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Woah...best coach in Cal history? That honor goes to one of the greatest coaches in college football history (we actually had one). During his 10-year career at Cal, Andy Smith compiled a 74-16-7 record, and his 1920 Wonder Team was regarded as one the greatest college teams in American history. We did have a legacy at one time.

pasadenaorbust said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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okaydo said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

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I think it's quite sad that the best coach in cal history still only averaged 8-4 records. It's good, for sure. But damn that's sad. And it was ages ago.

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Woah...best coach in Cal history? That honor goes to one of the greatest coaches in college football history (we actually had one). During his 10-year career at Cal, Andy Smith compiled a 74-16-7 record, and his 1920 Wonder Team was regarded as one the greatest college teams in American history. We did have a legacy at one time.

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Embarrassed to have not know this. Maybe he should have been on the list above?

bearsandgiants said:

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okaydo said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

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I think it's quite sad that the best coach in cal history still only averaged 8-4 records. It's good, for sure. But damn that's sad. And it was ages ago.

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Pappy Waldorf?

I recently looked at the end of Waldorf's tenure because the first Cal game of the post-Waldorf era was against SMU in 1957.

As I posted in my other thread, that game against SMU featured a lot of empty seats.

So I wondered why:

1956:




1955:




1954:




1953:

calbear80 said:

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I would be interested to see the ranking by winning (or losing ) percentage of each head coach.

Go Bears!

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Wilcox is it updated.

pasadenaorbust said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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okaydo said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

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I think it's quite sad that the best coach in cal history still only averaged 8-4 records. It's good, for sure. But damn that's sad. And it was ages ago.

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Woah...best coach in Cal history? That honor goes to one of the greatest coaches in college football history (we actually had one). During his 10-year career at Cal, Andy Smith compiled a 74-16-7 record, and his 1920 Wonder Team was regarded as one the greatest college teams in American history. We did have a legacy at one time.

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Real afficionados of Cal football history know that the greatest loss to the program was the fact that Smith died of pneumonia in 1926 at the age of 42. Had he lived, he most likely would have coached into his 60s, and possibly continued Cal's dominance in the sport past WW II, giving it the legacy as the West Coast power that instead passed to U$C.

Jeff82 said:

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pasadenaorbust said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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okaydo said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

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I think it's quite sad that the best coach in cal history still only averaged 8-4 records. It's good, for sure. But damn that's sad. And it was ages ago.

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Woah...best coach in Cal history? That honor goes to one of the greatest coaches in college football history (we actually had one). During his 10-year career at Cal, Andy Smith compiled a 74-16-7 record, and his 1920 Wonder Team was regarded as one the greatest college teams in American history. We did have a legacy at one time.

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Real afficionados of Cal football history know that the greatest loss to the program was the fact that Smith died of pneumonia in 1926 at the age of 42. Had he lived, he most likely would have coached into his 60s, and possibly continued Cal's dominance in the sport past WW II, giving it the legacy as the West Coast power that instead passed to U$C.

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To put it in context: Andy Smith was born 100 years before Aaron Rodgers was born.

The 100th anniversary of Andy Smith's death is in 13 months.

Or to put it in even more context: Lincoln Riley was born on September 5, 1983. Andy Smith was born on September 10, 1883.

bearsandgiants said:

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pasadenaorbust said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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okaydo said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

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I think it's quite sad that the best coach in cal history still only averaged 8-4 records. It's good, for sure. But damn that's sad. And it was ages ago.

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Woah...best coach in Cal history? That honor goes to one of the greatest coaches in college football history (we actually had one). During his 10-year career at Cal, Andy Smith compiled a 74-16-7 record, and his 1920 Wonder Team was regarded as one the greatest college teams in American history. We did have a legacy at one time.

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Embarrassed to have not know this. Maybe he should have been on the list above?

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Well, it was some time ago, but this is Cal, so we are forced to celebrate it whenever we get it.

pasadenaorbust said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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pasadenaorbust said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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okaydo said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

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I think it's quite sad that the best coach in cal history still only averaged 8-4 records. It's good, for sure. But damn that's sad. And it was ages ago.

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Woah...best coach in Cal history? That honor goes to one of the greatest coaches in college football history (we actually had one). During his 10-year career at Cal, Andy Smith compiled a 74-16-7 record, and his 1920 Wonder Team was regarded as one the greatest college teams in American history. We did have a legacy at one time.

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Embarrassed to have not know this. Maybe he should have been on the list above?

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Well, it was some time ago, but this is Cal, so we are forced to celebrate it whenever we get it.

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How's the planning for the 50th anniversary celebration of The Play coming along?

> Real afficionados of Cal football history know that the greatest loss to the program was the fact that Smith died of pneumonia in 1926 at the age of 42. Had he lived, he most likely would have coached into his 60s, and possibly continued Cal's dominance in the sport past WW II, giving it the legacy as the West Coast power that instead passed to U$C.

dint know that, tnx Real Afficionado # bless Joe Roth too
sighned, class of '73

pasadenaorbust said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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okaydo said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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okaydo said:

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1. Jeff Tedford - 57 losses (82 wins).

2. Justin Wilcox - 50 losses (43 wins).

3. Stub Allison - 42 losses (58 wins).

4. Ray Willsey - 42 losses (40 wins).

5. Tom Holmoe - 39 losses (16 wins).

6. Joe Kapp - 34 losses (20 wins).

7. Pappy Waldorf - 32 losses (67 wins).

8. Mike White - 30 losses (35 wins).

9. Sonny Dykes - 30 losses (19 wins).

10. Marv Levy - 29 losses (8 wins).

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Interesting dichotomy: very bad coaches with relatively short Cal careers and some of the all-time greats who had long careers.

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Are you calling Wilcox an "all-time great"?!?!

But seriously. It's funny that Wilcox has the chance to be No. 1 on this list next season.

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I think it's quite sad that the best coach in cal history still only averaged 8-4 records. It's good, for sure. But damn that's sad. And it was ages ago.

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Woah...best coach in Cal history? That honor goes to one of the greatest coaches in college football history (we actually had one). During his 10-year career at Cal, Andy Smith compiled a 74-16-7 record, and his 1920 Wonder Team was regarded as one the greatest college teams in American history. We did have a legacy at one time.

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Who? When? What century?

We need to focus on the now not the past.