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BigBoiBearBooster
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What's going on with my Bearssss baby?!

Can someone more tapped in than me provide some insight about which quarterbacks Cal is currently targeting in the transfer portal. I'd greatly appreciate any information
dimitrig
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BigBoiBearBooster said:

What's going on with my Bearssss baby?!

Can someone more tapped in than me provide some insight about which quarterbacks Cal is currently targeting in the transfer portal. I'd greatly appreciate any information

What is going on with Justyn Martin?



BigBoiBearBooster
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Looks like he's going to Maryland
95bears
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The name QB left on the board is Devin Brown and there is heavy speculation we are in discussions with him. That's the list.
Nofado
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We need a starter and another backup would be nice
BigBoiBearBooster
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You think we have a real shot at him?
Bearly Clad
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Nofado said:

We need a starter and another backup would be nice
Is Harris sticking around for another year? He'd be a solid backup. Not that EJ couldn't but he has only 2 quarters of experience and you always want a battle-tested and consistent backup or a crazy high ceiling young guy
Rushinbear
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95bears said:

The name QB left on the board is Devin Brown and there is heavy speculation we are in discussions with him. That's the list.
the south dakota state qb is said to be choosing between the draft and the portal.
95bears
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BigBoiBearBooster said:

You think we have a real shot at him?
I dunno. I heard some things today about the FM situation and why he left that makes me believe this staff, for years, is OCD cracked-out obsessive about getting a dual threat QB. Not sure if Brown fits that mold. As a HS senior he rushed for 430 in 14 games (30ish per game).
Oski87
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95bears said:

BigBoiBearBooster said:

You think we have a real shot at him?
I dunno. I head some things today about the FM situation and why he left that makes me believe this staff, for years, is OCD cracked-out obsessive about getting a dual threat QB. Not sure if Brown fits that mold. As a HS senior he rushed for 430 in 14 games (30ish per game).


I am sure that they think a mobile Qb is harder to defend - look at our defense - we get killed with mobile QBs. So from a defensive coaches perspective that may be the case. And since that is Wilcox, that makes sense.

To me Fernando was much better this year running. He was able to get a first down or more with his legs. I think that is the key. You don't need to be a huge runner - just mobile enough.
95bears
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Oski87 said:

95bears said:

BigBoiBearBooster said:

You think we have a real shot at him?
I dunno. I head some things today about the FM situation and why he left that makes me believe this staff, for years, is OCD cracked-out obsessive about getting a dual threat QB. Not sure if Brown fits that mold. As a HS senior he rushed for 430 in 14 games (30ish per game).


To me Fernando was much better this year running. He was able to get a first down or more with his legs. I think that is the key. You don't need to be a huge runner - just mobile enough.

He put work into improving his speed in the offseason, might have gotten better with his legs next year but staff wasn't going to put that faith in him.
AmadorBear
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Mendoza is a ACL blow out waiting to happen……like a giraffe with slow twitch. I cringed every time he left the pocket.
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Oski87 said:

95bears said:

BigBoiBearBooster said:

You think we have a real shot at him?
I dunno. I head some things today about the FM situation and why he left that makes me believe this staff, for years, is OCD cracked-out obsessive about getting a dual threat QB. Not sure if Brown fits that mold. As a HS senior he rushed for 430 in 14 games (30ish per game).


I am sure that they think a mobile Qb is harder to defend - look at our defense - we get killed with mobile QBs. So from a defensive coaches perspective that may be the case. And since that is Wilcox, that makes sense.

To me Fernando was much better this year running. He was able to get a first down or more with his legs. I think that is the key. You don't need to be a huge runner - just mobile enough.


Should be Harsin's decision (with input from Rolo, perhaps). It's HIS offense, and HIS system. He knows better than Wilcox what types of QBs he prioritizes for it. Wilcox should really stay out of it.
BearGoggles
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95bears said:

BigBoiBearBooster said:

You think we have a real shot at him?
I dunno. I heard some things today about the FM situation and why he left that makes me believe this staff, for years, is OCD cracked-out obsessive about getting a dual threat QB. Not sure if Brown fits that mold. As a HS senior he rushed for 430 in 14 games (30ish per game).
The staff will take the best qb available to Cal. And I hope they are obsessive about that, dual threat or not.

Not sure what you heard since you didn't post any details. Reportedly, the staff did not manage the FM relationship in a perfect manner and FM felt staff was not sufficiently committed to him. But FM seemed to have some real insecurities so I don't put much credence in FM leaving because staff wanted a dual threat guy.

Cal has had a lack of depth in the QB room for years and FM should not have been offended or surprised that Cal was looking to depth after 2023. FM's 2023 was not so great that he was entitled to a presumptive starting position w/o competition. Obviously, that would have changed after 2024.

Cal needs to bring in multiple qbs. Hopefully they land their top remaining target.
Johnfox
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Devin Brown is a done deal
Bobodeluxe
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Johnfox said:

Devin Brown is a done deal
He had a good game: 331 yards, 3 td's, 1 int.
BigBoiBearBooster
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Receipts?
Big C
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BearGoggles said:

95bears said:

BigBoiBearBooster said:

You think we have a real shot at him?
I dunno. I heard some things today about the FM situation and why he left that makes me believe this staff, for years, is OCD cracked-out obsessive about getting a dual threat QB. Not sure if Brown fits that mold. As a HS senior he rushed for 430 in 14 games (30ish per game).
The staff will take the best qb available to Cal. And I hope they are obsessive about that, dual threat or not.

Not sure what you heard since you didn't post any details. Reportedly, the staff did not manage the FM relationship in a perfect manner and FM felt staff was not sufficiently committed to him. But FM seemed to have some real insecurities so I don't put much credence in FM leaving because staff wanted a dual threat guy.

Cal has had a lack of depth in the QB room for years and FM should not have been offended or surprised that Cal was looking to depth after 2023. FM's 2023 was not so great that he was entitled to a presumptive starting position w/o competition. Obviously, that would have changed after 2024.

Cal needs to bring in multiple qbs. Hopefully they land their top remaining target.

My guess is that, in order to get Chandler Rogers to come here, Bloesch had to promise him a legitimate shot to be the starter and, regardless, some playing time throughout the season. I actually thought Bloesch handled that about as well as he could have, but I guess it didn't sit too well with Mendoza.
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Big C said:

BearGoggles said:

95bears said:

BigBoiBearBooster said:

You think we have a real shot at him?
I dunno. I heard some things today about the FM situation and why he left that makes me believe this staff, for years, is OCD cracked-out obsessive about getting a dual threat QB. Not sure if Brown fits that mold. As a HS senior he rushed for 430 in 14 games (30ish per game).
The staff will take the best qb available to Cal. And I hope they are obsessive about that, dual threat or not.

Not sure what you heard since you didn't post any details. Reportedly, the staff did not manage the FM relationship in a perfect manner and FM felt staff was not sufficiently committed to him. But FM seemed to have some real insecurities so I don't put much credence in FM leaving because staff wanted a dual threat guy.

Cal has had a lack of depth in the QB room for years and FM should not have been offended or surprised that Cal was looking to depth after 2023. FM's 2023 was not so great that he was entitled to a presumptive starting position w/o competition. Obviously, that would have changed after 2024.

Cal needs to bring in multiple qbs. Hopefully they land their top remaining target.

My guess is that, in order to get Chandler Rogers to come here, Bloesch had to promise him a legitimate shot to be the starter and, regardless, some playing time throughout the season. I actually thought Bloesch handled that about as well as he could have, but I guess it didn't sit too well with Mendoza.
I'm sure he offered him an open competition - which was appropriate given FM's standing after his first year. I doubt he offered playing time.

That being said, I like it when teams have special packages for their back up qbs which adds diversity to the offense and requires the opponent to have a harder time game planning. And Rogers' pedigree definitely justified Bloesch doing that for him. It is a great way to get your backup experience.

The problem was Cal/Bloesch's timing for utilizing Rogers. Rather than giving him "one drive in the second or third quarter of each game", the timing for inserting Rogers seemed random (and not well thought out) and puzzling/forced. And, as you mentioned, it seems like the messaging to FM was poor (though it could be FM simply didn't accept what he was told).
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The fan boys for mobile qbs here is hilarious. One turned out to be a receiver, Rogers had zero arm strength and pocket panic was his trademark
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DaveT
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"I'm sure he offered him an open competition - which was appropriate given FM's standing after his first year. I doubt he offered playing time."

It has been reported Bloesch did promise Rogers the starting QB job, and that this was corroborated by Mendoza's brother. Unless you're better sourced than these guys, why would you doubt it?


Cal88
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Not sure how reliable this source is, but if true, we might be looking at a potential upgrade at QB vs FM.

oski003
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DaveT said:

"I'm sure he offered him an open competition - which was appropriate given FM's standing after his first year. I doubt he offered playing time."

It has been reported Bloesch did promise Rogers the starting QB job, and that this was corroborated by Mendoza's brother. Unless you're better sourced than these guys, why would you doubt it?





Fernando's brother is in no position to corroborate this rumor.
JimSox
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DaveT said:

"I'm sure he offered him an open competition - which was appropriate given FM's standing after his first year. I doubt he offered playing time."

It has been reported Bloesch did promise Rogers the starting QB job, and that this was corroborated by Mendoza's brother. Unless you're better sourced than these guys, why would you doubt it?





The brother's statement is not a corraboration but a claim that is very much in doubt.
Big C
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DaveT said:

"I'm sure he offered him an open competition - which was appropriate given FM's standing after his first year. I doubt he offered playing time."

It has been reported Bloesch did promise Rogers the starting QB job, and that this was corroborated by Mendoza's brother. Unless you're better sourced than these guys, why would you doubt it?




I would doubt it because it would be absolute folly to have promised Rogers the starting job. It's almost always folly to promise starting jobs, no matter what the case. Just bad personnel management. I doubt that Bloesch is that foolish.

However, after the 2023 season that Rogers had, it was reasonable for him to be seeking a starting job at a higher level. He was probably told that he would be competing for the starting job. Maybe Bloesch told him something like, "if you end up being as good as I think you can be, I'm seeing you as our #1 and we'll give you every opportunity in Spring Practice and Fall Camp to show us what you can do".

When you're talking nuances it's easy for a young man to sort of hear what he wants to hear.
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oski003 said:

DaveT said:

"I'm sure he offered him an open competition - which was appropriate given FM's standing after his first year. I doubt he offered playing time."

It has been reported Bloesch did promise Rogers the starting QB job, and that this was corroborated by Mendoza's brother. Unless you're better sourced than these guys, why would you doubt it?





Fernando's brother is in no position to corroborate this rumor.
Yeah a burner tweet supposedly quoting Mendoza's brother does not = "It's been reported."

Rogers was not promised the starting position, though that's what Mendoza told his teammates. I know that for a fact because I was told by one of his teammates that he was told the same by Mendoza. Rogers was only promised that it would be an open competition where he'd have every chance to earn QB1 rather than Mendoza coming in as the previously named #1. The competition went on all camp and game prep week. Seems they gave Rogers as long a rope as possible but he didn't earn the starting job.

Mendoza didn't like that and saw it as a sign of disrespect but when you have 14 TDs with 10 INTs and 7 fumbles the prior season, you absolutely have to understand you won't go into camp as the named QB1 without another QB brought in to legitimately compete for the job.

I understand him feeling Cal wasn't confident in him but I don't think it would've been wise at all to bank on him continuing to improve and not having another QB brought in to push him or potentially beat him out.
monol96
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"Seems they gave Rogers as long a rope as possible"

why? this statement doesn't really reflect well on the staff IMO, nor does it work to refute the rumor that Rogers was promised the job
MoragaBear
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monol96 said:

"Seems they gave Rogers as long a rope as possible"

why? this statement doesn't really reflect well on the staff IMO, nor does it work to refute the rumor that Rogers was promised the job
You don't promise a QB a legit chance to compete to start and cut off the competition after a couple weeks unless there was a massive performance difference, which there wasn't. They needed to be certain that Mendoza was the guy and he obviously ended up earning it.
93Bear
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The people in the know have been professional and tried really hard to keep things with Mendoza as private as possible. However, when the narrative has been falsely spun by the Mendoza camp and his fan boys, they had no choice but to tell the truth and defend what the good people at Cal and the collective have been doing. As a result, it's come to light that Mendoza is an insecure, petty phony. It's difficult for some to admit it but we got played by that guy.
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93Bear said:

The people in the know have been professional and tried really hard to keep things with Mendoza as private as possible. However, when the narrative has been falsely spun by the Mendoza camp and his fan boys, they had no choice but to tell the truth and defend what the good people at Cal and the collective have been doing. As a result, it's come to light that Mendoza is an insecure, petty phony. It's difficult for some to admit it but we got played by that guy.
It's a business. NOTHING MORE!
monol96
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played by him how? the fact of the matter is Wilcox wasted the best QB that he is ever gonna have. that's what "the good people at Cal" have been doing. I have no idea what the collective has to do with it.
Bearly Clad
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Let's be honest, there are lots of reasons to denigrate our coaching staff but bringing in competition for a QB who didn't play great isn't one of them. And the criticism then the staff supposedly promised Rodgers the job and then gave equal snaps to the both of them through camp before starting Mendoza every game (outside of the one he held himself out for the "flu") seems disingenuous at best.

If you feel that's unfair treatment for a QB who had no other D1 offers then fine, even though it's not. But burning bridges and throwing a tantrum because you think you deserved better than that and to be protected from competition is as soft-minded of a response as I've ever seen.

And if Rodgers was "promised" the starting job but Mendoza had it the whole year, including an even shake in camp, then why is it Mendoza who feels wronged, and is airing it publicly, and not Rodgers? None of this adds up at all if you apply logic to it
07bear
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what about malachi nelson, i believe some mobility there as well as 5*
07bear
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who is aguilar?
07bear
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anither develop,mental qb would be nice

CJ is GOOD
EJ has a lot of talent, rocket arm and tough runner
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