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Bobodeluxe
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"the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game."

You can't just make this stuff up.
Cal_79
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Bobodeluxe said:

"the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game."

You can't just make this stuff up.

This makes sense. When a 1st place team can get dinged for losing their CCG, give #1 a bye and see if perhaps #2 or #3 can make their case for entry into the CFP.
sycasey
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Cal_79 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

"the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game."

You can't just make this stuff up.

This makes sense. When a 1st place team can get dinged for losing their CCG, give #1 a bye and see if perhaps #2 or #3 can make their case for entry into the CFP.
It wouldn't make sense if the ACC was in the position the Big 12 was last season, which is that only their conference champion was going to make the playoff. Then you're giving up a spot.

The committee already demonstrated with SMU that they're going to be very reluctant to kick a team out of the playoff for losing their CCG if they would have been in without it. Seems like a non-issue for now.
RedlessWardrobe
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Cal_79 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

"the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game."

You can't just make this stuff up.

This makes sense. When a 1st place team can get dinged for losing their CCG, give #1 a bye and see if perhaps #2 or #3 can make their case for entry into the CFP.
Really? I understand it from a practical standpoint, but if a league's championship game excludes the regular season winner, how the hell can it be taken seriously?
Bobodeluxe
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RedlessWardrobe said:

Cal_79 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

"the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game."

You can't just make this stuff up.

This makes sense. When a 1st place team can get dinged for losing their CCG, give #1 a bye and see if perhaps #2 or #3 can make their case for entry into the CFP.
Really? I understand it from a practical standpoint, but if a league's championship game excludes the regular season winner, how the hell can it be taken seriously?
How many people actually take Professional Minor League Football seriously?
Bearly Clad
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sycasey said:

It wouldn't make sense if the ACC was in the position the Big 12 was last season, which is that only their conference champion was going to make the playoff. Then you're giving up a spot.

The committee already demonstrated with SMU that they're going to be very reluctant to kick a team out of the playoff for losing their CCG if they would have been in without it. Seems like a non-issue for now.
I think the only thing the committee has proven is that they're willing to completely change up their criteria year-to-year. Some seasons it might be an advantage if the 1-seed is 11-1 or 12-0 and the 2/3 both have 2/3 losses. Other seasons the conference might be deep and both the top seeds have 3 losses and need another marquee win to break into the playoffs, especially if the 3rd seed had 4/5 losses and is extremely unlikely to get selected regardless. It also depends on the landscape at large.

What happens if there's 6 spots locked up by B10/SEC teams who are 10-2 or better, 2 undefeated G5 teams, a PAC team at 11-1, and 2 teams who cleaned up in a weak B12? I think there's just too many permutations to predict what will be beneficial in any given season.

IMO it would just be too hasty to make any rash decisions based on future guesses about what the committee will and won't reward. The system is better off just leaving it as is and seeing how it plays out. I also think that a change like this based on fear of being left out, or to game the system and sneak an extra team in on what amounts to a technicality, will only serve to feed into the narrative that the ACC is weak and we know it. I think the committee would be more likely to be petty and dock the ACC for this move rather than reward us during the selection process
wifeisafurd
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I don't think the coaches will like it. Just means the teams going into the playoffs will have to play an extra game, Nit a big deal for the pros, but tougher on college players as far as injuries, wearing down, etc.
bearsandgiants
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I think this is the dumbest idea in the history of football ideas, tbh.
Rushinbear
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Bobodeluxe said:

"the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game."

You can't just make this stuff up.
"So, we're NOT playing to win all our games this season?" ACC football player.
RedlessWardrobe
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Bobodeluxe said:

RedlessWardrobe said:

Cal_79 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

"the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game."

You can't just make this stuff up.

This makes sense. When a 1st place team can get dinged for losing their CCG, give #1 a bye and see if perhaps #2 or #3 can make their case for entry into the CFP.
Really? I understand it from a practical standpoint, but if a league's championship game excludes the regular season winner, how the hell can it be taken seriously?
How many people actually take Professional Minor League Football seriously?
Not really sure how to interpret your question, so let me re phrase my statement:

Excluding the first place team from a league championship game is FREAKIN' STUPID.

How's that?

calbear93
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RedlessWardrobe said:

Bobodeluxe said:

RedlessWardrobe said:

Cal_79 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

"the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game."

You can't just make this stuff up.

This makes sense. When a 1st place team can get dinged for losing their CCG, give #1 a bye and see if perhaps #2 or #3 can make their case for entry into the CFP.
Really? I understand it from a practical standpoint, but if a league's championship game excludes the regular season winner, how the hell can it be taken seriously?
How many people actually take Professional Minor League Football seriously?
Not really sure how to interpret your question, so let me re phrase my statement:

Excluding the first place team from a league championship game is FREAKIN' STUPID.

How's that?


I have a different take.

Let me start by saying that the purity of the sport has been abandoned with transfer portals and NIL.

While this proposal likely would not be implemented, I appreciate that the conference is trying to protect its members and think prospectively to ensure best bowl results.

Pac-12 would have just done not only the stupid thing but stupid thing that hurt our position in bowl invitations and playoffs.

SMU, which was undefeated in the conference, had to sweat it out as to whether it would be invited.

Not only that, but none of the ACC teams got a bye. So, how did the conference championship game help SMU or Clemson. If Clemson had beaten the #3 team in the conference, would it not have made it? Most likely it still would have by beating Miami. And SMU would have received a bye instead of Boise State.

So, from a practical standpoint in a game that is already semi-professional, why not think about how we can best promote the conference?

GMP
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sycasey said:

Cal_79 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

"the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game."

You can't just make this stuff up.

This makes sense. When a 1st place team can get dinged for losing their CCG, give #1 a bye and see if perhaps #2 or #3 can make their case for entry into the CFP.
It wouldn't make sense if the ACC was in the position the Big 12 was last season, which is that only their conference champion was going to make the playoff. Then you're giving up a spot.

The committee already demonstrated with SMU that they're going to be very reluctant to kick a team out of the playoff for losing their CCG if they would have been in without it. Seems like a non-issue for now.


And as you kind of touch on but don't say, it might have hurt the ACC this season.

SMU got in anyways with the loss, but so did Clemson with the win. If SMU had a bye, and Clemson beat Miami, I don't think Clemson gets in. They were 17th and Miami was 12th. So maybe Miami gets in with a win over #17 Clemson, although it had better be very convincing. But Clemson probably does not jump that many teams with a win over Miami.
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