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Strykur said:
Luka's conditioning sucks! - averages 28/8/8
Jerry Jones only the 2nd-worst GM in the greater Dallas area after tonight
Those tv ratings for All Star are gonna be crazy... Lol
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NBA gonna NBA
JUST INSANE Luka and Kai aren't going https://t.co/cds3jkIzDB
HairOfTheBear said:
I had no idea the Mavs were so upset about Luka"s lack of conditioning for years. They said he reported to camp at his best shape ever, then promptly began sliding and ballooned right back up and worse than before. I can't imagine Lebron is gonna stand by and let him pack on the lbs.
Never expected this...
He hasn't really cared in a few seasons. He strong armed the Lakers into extending bring your kid to work day to two years. Bronny would be a rotational player on our below average team.bear2034 said:HairOfTheBear said:
I had no idea the Mavs were so upset about Luka"s lack of conditioning for years. They said he reported to camp at his best shape ever, then promptly began sliding and ballooned right back up and worse than before. I can't imagine Lebron is gonna stand by and let him pack on the lbs.
Never expected this...
Lebron doesn't even play defense half the time and is probably going to retire soon.
ok, but he is still insane about taking care of his body and there have more than whispers that Doncic needs to work on his body as well. Not saying it will fix his defense, or lack thereof, but if Lebron can influence him to be more proactive, perhaps he could stay on the court more. And to be clear, I don't give a hoot about Doncic or if gets better physically or not, just as I don't care if Lebron plays D or not. I'd prefer the Lakers fall into the Pacific Ocean. But, If there is one guy that could influence Doncic to care for himself better, it would likely be Lebron.bear2034 said:HairOfTheBear said:
I had no idea the Mavs were so upset about Luka"s lack of conditioning for years. They said he reported to camp at his best shape ever, then promptly began sliding and ballooned right back up and worse than before. I can't imagine Lebron is gonna stand by and let him pack on the lbs.
Never expected this...
Lebron doesn't even play defense half the time and is probably going to retire soon.
SBGold said:
Luka has been hurt most of this year and apparently has ballooned to 270. He's going the way of Zion
Go Bears Forever
He started playing pro ball in Europe when he was 16 so he is a veteran player despite his age.going4roses said:
I am this years old to learn he is 25 !!!! I thought he was 40 ...38 at the least. My gosh lol
I thought that too, and it's a great question. I mean, don't you also work hard to get him out of your conference?sycasey said:
Even if your goal is to get out of the Luka business now because you don't think he will age well, it's insane to only shop him to one team and not take offers from everyone! There's no way the Mavs got the best return they could have gotten from this.
Amazing how superstars just constantly fall in the Lakers' lap. Must be nice.
Except all the other chess players also seem to think this was nuts.mbBear said:I thought that too, and it's a great question. I mean, don't you also work hard to get him out of your conference?sycasey said:
Even if your goal is to get out of the Luka business now because you don't think he will age well, it's insane to only shop him to one team and not take offers from everyone! There's no way the Mavs got the best return they could have gotten from this.
Amazing how superstars just constantly fall in the Lakers' lap. Must be nice.
BUT if they go to "auction," how much does the Luka narrative get a life of it's own, and become worse than it is? And he gets closer to free agency, and starts throwing around teams he will or won't resign with....
I assume we are talking and observing checkers, and this was all about chess.
Ha...mostly true. But they only needed one to think it wasn't nuts?sycasey said:Except all the other chess players also seem to think this was nuts.mbBear said:I thought that too, and it's a great question. I mean, don't you also work hard to get him out of your conference?sycasey said:
Even if your goal is to get out of the Luka business now because you don't think he will age well, it's insane to only shop him to one team and not take offers from everyone! There's no way the Mavs got the best return they could have gotten from this.
Amazing how superstars just constantly fall in the Lakers' lap. Must be nice.
BUT if they go to "auction," how much does the Luka narrative get a life of it's own, and become worse than it is? And he gets closer to free agency, and starts throwing around teams he will or won't resign with....
I assume we are talking and observing checkers, and this was all about chess.
They could've gotten Austin Reaves ALONG with more future draft picks (which can be traded for players now) on top of the current deal and it still would've been an unfair trade. Even fat and out of shape, Luka is still a top 3 player who hasn't hit his prime yet.mbBear said:Ha...mostly true. But they only needed one to think it wasn't nuts?sycasey said:Except all the other chess players also seem to think this was nuts.mbBear said:I thought that too, and it's a great question. I mean, don't you also work hard to get him out of your conference?sycasey said:
Even if your goal is to get out of the Luka business now because you don't think he will age well, it's insane to only shop him to one team and not take offers from everyone! There's no way the Mavs got the best return they could have gotten from this.
Amazing how superstars just constantly fall in the Lakers' lap. Must be nice.
BUT if they go to "auction," how much does the Luka narrative get a life of it's own, and become worse than it is? And he gets closer to free agency, and starts throwing around teams he will or won't resign with....
I assume we are talking and observing checkers, and this was all about chess.
Would they have gotten a better singular player than AD? That's a difficult question. More assets, possibly, but when you are the defending conference champion, you are worrying less about a first round pick 4 years from now, and more about what does this do right now?
Maybe time shines some light on this....or not. But as many pointed out, no one knows more about Luka than the Mavs. Does Lebron or the "aura" of the Lakers change his attitude about working out etc? I would take that gamble.
He obviously survived that train wreck...I think if this trade fails, then it won't end quite as nicely for him....ColoradoBear said:
lol @ Nico Harrison
https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/gm-nico-harrison-doncic-meeting-steph-curry-20136902.php
concernedparent said:He hasn't really cared in a few seasons. He strong armed the Lakers into extending bring your kid to work day to two years. Bronny would be a rotational player on our below average team.bear2034 said:HairOfTheBear said:
I had no idea the Mavs were so upset about Luka"s lack of conditioning for years. They said he reported to camp at his best shape ever, then promptly began sliding and ballooned right back up and worse than before. I can't imagine Lebron is gonna stand by and let him pack on the lbs.
Never expected this...
Lebron doesn't even play defense half the time and is probably going to retire soon.
he's a bit of his project but lebron dna can go a long wayoski003 said:concernedparent said:He hasn't really cared in a few seasons. He strong armed the Lakers into extending bring your kid to work day to two years. Bronny would be a rotational player on our below average team.bear2034 said:HairOfTheBear said:
I had no idea the Mavs were so upset about Luka"s lack of conditioning for years. They said he reported to camp at his best shape ever, then promptly began sliding and ballooned right back up and worse than before. I can't imagine Lebron is gonna stand by and let him pack on the lbs.
Never expected this...
Lebron doesn't even play defense half the time and is probably going to retire soon.
LeBron is a winner and definitely cares. Bronny would absolutely be a starting guard on our team, possibly our best player. He was hampered by a serious heart issue his one year at USC and is now tearing up the G League. He is a good player but may not be NBA caliber.
This, lol. I think Bronny has had one monster game in the G League, and a terrible performance the other night in a Laker game where Redick criticized his play extensively.MoragaBear said:
I don't know that 16/4/4 against G League comp = tearing it up.
This trade is 100% insane and involves zero business sense. Is the Dallas GM getting some huge under the table kickback?
In NBA First, LeBron And Bronny Execute Synchronized Father-Son Flop #BestOfTheBee2024 https://t.co/yj8FZJM771
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) December 30, 2024
Hey, LeBron may be on the downhill side of his career, but I don't he's reached the point where he should be sent to the G League.bear2034 said:In NBA First, LeBron And Bronny Execute Synchronized Father-Son Flop #BestOfTheBee2024 https://t.co/yj8FZJM771
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) December 30, 2024
It would be great to see Bronny and his dad play together. Sorry Laker fans, I couldn't resist.
Mr. Harrison, with all due respect, it is a terrible deal for your franchise. The threat of opening it up to other bidders alone would've pressed the Lakers into giving up more... which they absolutely 100% would for the chance to land a TOP 3 player who hasn't even hit his prime.BearGoggles said:
As a laker fan, I love this trade, mostly because I don't think the Lebron/Davis core was going to produce another championship. In truth, the Lakers should also consider trading Lebron to build a better team going forward, but reportedly he does not want to be traded.
For those criticizing the trade, I think you're overlooking the fact that Dallas was going to have to give Luka a 5 year/$360+ deal. By virtue of the weird NBA collective bargaining agreement, the max the lakers (or any other team) can offer is around $230M. Dallas didn't want to make that offer, reportedly because of his work ethic/attitude/conditioning issues and also because it would severely impact the ability to build a team around him. And if they don't offer it, then they have a disgruntled player (who reportedly already has a questionable attitude). Dallas was wanting to avoid all of this.
So once Dallas decided to move on from Luca, they targeted probably the only other top 10 player available (Davis) who in their view fits their team need. Any other trade gets them someone not as good as Davis and some future picks. Dallas didn't want futures - they want to try and win now.
Dallas also didn't want news of a potential trade to get out, which would have allowed Luca and his agent to torpedo a deal. Given that reality, the lakers had to take a real risk as to whether Luca will sign an extension. That is why the return from the Lakers was not more.
Of course, the Lakers have to feel confident because of their status as an elite franchise and all that that locking in Doncic isn't an issue.BearGoggles said:
As a laker fan, I love this trade, mostly because I don't think the Lebron/Davis core was going to produce another championship. In truth, the Lakers should also consider trading Lebron to build a better team going forward, but reportedly he does not want to be traded.
For those criticizing the trade, I think you're overlooking the fact that Dallas was going to have to give Luka a 5 year/$360+ deal. By virtue of the weird NBA collective bargaining agreement, the max the lakers (or any other team) can offer is around $230M. Dallas didn't want to make that offer, reportedly because of his work ethic/attitude/conditioning issues and also because it would severely impact the ability to build a team around him. And if they don't offer it, then they have a disgruntled player (who reportedly already has a questionable attitude). Dallas was wanting to avoid all of this.
So once Dallas decided to move on from Luca, they targeted probably the only other top 10 player available (Davis) who in their view fits their team need. Any other trade gets them someone not as good as Davis and some future picks. Dallas didn't want futures - they want to try and win now.
Dallas also didn't want news of a potential trade to get out, which would have allowed Luca and his agent to torpedo a deal. Given that reality, the lakers had to take a real risk as to whether Luca will sign an extension. That is why the return from the Lakers was not more.
