What does this mean?
Sirmon is gone
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going to the Saints and we get a new DC
No great loss but the timing is tough.Fire Starkey said:
going to the Saints and we get a new DC
CNHTH said:
What does this mean?
Wilcox is DC and Rivera is HC?
Promote one of the defensive coaches, since we have so damn many
This gives some context to Simon recently surrendering his position group duties.
will the responsibility fall to Ron Rivera to figure out the plan after? i hope so!
yup.Cal_79 said:
This gives some context to Simon recently surrendering his position group duties.
Time for a big name hire!
Donate to Cal's NIL at https://calegends.com/donation/
BearoutEast67 said:
Time for a big name hire!
Are you writing the Big Name Check?
Nah. Contracts. But I would go for Rivera being the DC for one season. He should show up tomorrow with a T shirt that says "Assistant Coach". Then call Justin Wilcox into his GM office and tell him he has one season to get this team to a New Years day game.
This is where Rivera can start paying dividends. I'm sure his coaching connections can help identify some young NFL position coach that is ready to step up to DC. It could be a career accelerator for the right guy, and RR has the NFL gravitas to sell it.
It's getting harder to get guys to go from NFL to college because of the NIL and transfer stuff, especially if you can come close to the salary in the NFL (which might be how this whole Sirmon thing came about in the first place.)MathTeacherMike said:
This is where Rivera can start paying dividends. I'm sure his coaching connections can help identify some young NFL position coach that is ready to step up to DC. It could be a career accelerator for the right guy, and RR has the NFL gravitas to sell it.
I would bet it will be someone from the college ranks (lower level team) stepping up, but your point is still an interesting one. If you were going to "gamble" on a young up and comer, it would be logical to be on the defensive side of the ball, where Wilcox should have that experience to guide them.
What is a "big name hire" when it comes to assistants and coordinators? Enough people have heard of them on a message board? Or they "approve" after a 5 minute google search?BearoutEast67 said:
Time for a big name hire!
Cal steals away a DC that was in the playoffs? Let me know how that turns out.
A "win" to me is someone on the way up...
I believe DeRuyter is looking for a job after getting fired from Texas Tech last year if we were to dip into our past
Coaches are saying screw college football and flocking to the NFL, not the other way around. College football is not in a good place right now. Add to that your boss Wilcox probably is on the hot seat and I suspect you seeing a younger on the rise college assistant being elevated or someone who knows Wilcox well such as Gregory or TDR, or both in Bert Watts.MathTeacherMike said:
This is where Rivera can start paying dividends. I'm sure his coaching connections can help identify some young NFL position coach that is ready to step up to DC. It could be a career accelerator for the right guy, and RR has the NFL gravitas to sell it.
Why coach in the minors if you can get into the majors?wifeisafurd said:Coaches are saying screw college football and flocking to the NFL, not the other way around. College football is not in a good place right now. Add to that your boss Wilcox probably is on the hot seat and I suspect you seeing a younger on the rise college assistant being elevated or someone who knows Wilcox well such as Gregory or TDR, or both in Bert Watts.MathTeacherMike said:
This is where Rivera can start paying dividends. I'm sure his coaching connections can help identify some young NFL position coach that is ready to step up to DC. It could be a career accelerator for the right guy, and RR has the NFL gravitas to sell it.
Rats escaping the sinking ship
A dude getting his first pro job is a different deal. And yeah bring back DeRuyter, plug and play.falseintellect said:
Rats escaping the sinking ship
kinda like u leaving cheesecake factory??falseintellect said:
Rats escaping the sinking ship
Strykur said:A dude getting his first pro job is a different deal. And yeah bring back DeRuyter, plug and play.falseintellect said:
Rats escaping the sinking ship
Didn't we all say the opposite when Tosh left his job as DC to go to the NFL as a position coach?
Strykur said:
bring back DeRuyter, plug and play.
DeRuyter seems like a fit not only because he's been here on staff but also because, as noted above, this could be a short-term gig if our Bears have another losing conference record in 2025. This situation may not be right for an up and coming coach looking for his first job as a DC.
yeah, that NFL is a nothing league...might as well be going to the G-League in the NBA....and we all know he will miss the guys discussing their NIL situations...falseintellect said:
Rats escaping the sinking ship
If you need to maintain a persona(or think that you do), at least pick spots that make sense...
Power conference coordinator to NFL position coach is a lateral move, at best. The sinking ship could be the program or college football generally, where coaching is now a sales position.Strykur said:A dude getting his first pro job is a different deal.falseintellect said:
Rats escaping the sinking ship
Yep we have another Wilcoxesque year we are in lame duck zone.BearSD said:Strykur said:
bring back DeRuyter, plug and play.
DeRuyter seems like a fit not only because he's been here on staff but also because, as noted above, this could be a short-term gig if our Bears have another losing conference record in 2025. This situation may not be right for an up and coming coach looking for his first job as a DC.
True. His last year at Cal he shared the DC with Sirmon. He might not have liked that.
I saw in his Wiki bio that he played at AF. Did he do a stint in the Air Force when he left the Air Force Academy?
I saw in his Wiki bio that he played at AF. Did he do a stint in the Air Force when he left the Air Force Academy?
BearSD said:Strykur said:
bring back DeRuyter, plug and play.
DeRuyter seems like a fit not only because he's been here on staff but also because, as noted above, this could be a short-term gig if our Bears have another losing conference record in 2025. This situation may not be right for an up and coming coach looking for his first job as a DC.
Didn't he get fired from his last two jobs? Are we overvaluing what he did 7 years ago?
Just looking at the 2025 schedule, and looking at who would likely be favored to win each game if odds were set today, winning every game as a favorite and losing every game as an underdog would lead to a 6-6 season, 3-5 in conference.KoreAmBear said:Yep we have another Wilcoxesque year we are in lame duck zone.BearSD said:Strykur said:
bring back DeRuyter, plug and play.
DeRuyter seems like a fit not only because he's been here on staff but also because, as noted above, this could be a short-term gig if our Bears have another losing conference record in 2025. This situation may not be right for an up and coming coach looking for his first job as a DC.
That's what candidates for the DC job will see, and that's why IMO we are likely to see the job go to someone like DeRuyter and not an up and coming assistant who won't want to risk his first DC job being one-and-done.
BearSD said:Just looking at the 2025 schedule, and looking at who would likely be favored to win each game if odds were set today, winning every game as a favorite and losing every game as an underdog would lead to a 6-6 season, 3-5 in conference.KoreAmBear said:Yep we have another Wilcoxesque year we are in lame duck zone.BearSD said:Strykur said:
bring back DeRuyter, plug and play.
DeRuyter seems like a fit not only because he's been here on staff but also because, as noted above, this could be a short-term gig if our Bears have another losing conference record in 2025. This situation may not be right for an up and coming coach looking for his first job as a DC.
That's what candidates for the DC job will see, and that's why IMO we are likely to see the job go to someone like DeRuyter and not an up and coming assistant who won't want to risk his first DC job being one-and-done.
Wait, didn't I read on BI that the 2025 schedule was so easy that we would win 9-10 games?
Big C said:BearSD said:Just looking at the 2025 schedule, and looking at who would likely be favored to win each game if odds were set today, winning every game as a favorite and losing every game as an underdog would lead to a 6-6 season, 3-5 in conference.KoreAmBear said:Yep we have another Wilcoxesque year we are in lame duck zone.BearSD said:Strykur said:
bring back DeRuyter, plug and play.
DeRuyter seems like a fit not only because he's been here on staff but also because, as noted above, this could be a short-term gig if our Bears have another losing conference record in 2025. This situation may not be right for an up and coming coach looking for his first job as a DC.
That's what candidates for the DC job will see, and that's why IMO we are likely to see the job go to someone like DeRuyter and not an up and coming assistant who won't want to risk his first DC job being one-and-done.
Wait, didn't I read on BI that the 2025 schedule was so easy that we would win 9-10 games?
No, what was said is the 2024 and 2025 schedules are the easiest in (probably) our history and set up for 10 win seasons with a reasonably good team and good coaching and it is imperative that we seize this opportunity if Cal football is going to survive.
Last year Wilcox squandered at least 4 games in the 4th quarter that we were winning, the most important was Miami on Game Day. Florida State was terrible. Win those and the team is ranked, has confidence playing in front of big crowds at CMS, we win 10 or more and maybe it is even us instead of SMU last year?
This years' schedule is a similar opportunity as last year, but if we play like last year and Wilcox again squanders a bunch of games we could win, we will have results like last year.
You are depressing me already my friend lol.calumnus said:Big C said:BearSD said:Just looking at the 2025 schedule, and looking at who would likely be favored to win each game if odds were set today, winning every game as a favorite and losing every game as an underdog would lead to a 6-6 season, 3-5 in conference.KoreAmBear said:Yep we have another Wilcoxesque year we are in lame duck zone.BearSD said:Strykur said:
bring back DeRuyter, plug and play.
DeRuyter seems like a fit not only because he's been here on staff but also because, as noted above, this could be a short-term gig if our Bears have another losing conference record in 2025. This situation may not be right for an up and coming coach looking for his first job as a DC.
That's what candidates for the DC job will see, and that's why IMO we are likely to see the job go to someone like DeRuyter and not an up and coming assistant who won't want to risk his first DC job being one-and-done.
Wait, didn't I read on BI that the 2025 schedule was so easy that we would win 9-10 games?
No, what was said is the 2024 and 2025 schedules are the easiest in (probably) our history and set up for 10 win seasons with a reasonably good team and good coaching and it is imperative that we seize this opportunity if Cal football is going to survive.
Last year Wilcox squandered at least 4 games in the 4th quarter that we were winning, the most important was Miami on Game Day. Florida State was terrible. Win those and the team is ranked, has confidence playing in front of big crowds at CMS, we win 10 or more and maybe it is even us instead of SMU last year?
This years' schedule is a similar opportunity as last year, but if we play like last year and Wilcox again squanders a bunch of games we could win, we will have results like last year.
Perhaps you think this roster has so much talent that it is "set up" to win 10 games this year, but the consensus around CFB is that this roster has 6-6 or 7-5 talent.calumnus said:
No, what was said is the 2024 and 2025 schedules are the easiest in (probably) our history and set up for 10 win seasons
Look at P4 teams that are generally projected to win 10 games in 2025. Go position by position through any of those rosters and try to convince us that Cal's roster is equal.
BearSD said:Perhaps you think this roster has so much talent that it is "set up" to win 10 games this year, but the consensus around CFB is that this roster has 6-6 or 7-5 talent.calumnus said:
No, what was said is the 2024 and 2025 schedules are the easiest in (probably) our history and set up for 10 win seasons
Look at P4 teams that are generally projected to win 10 games in 2025. Go position by position through any of those rosters and try to convince us that Cal's roster is equal.
The "consensus" last year was that SMU had G5 talent and would finish below us. The "consensus" was that Cal had two top 20 transfer classes.
Moreover, the consensus is that Wilcox promoting Bloesch to OC (and having him cover OL too) was a mistake. Wilcox fired him after all. Now you blame the players not being good enough?
You cannot deny that Florida State, Miami, Pitt, and NC State we're all winnable, that we were in fact winning those games. If we had we would have been 9-0 and ranked with Syracuse coming to CMS. Instead of playing in front of an empty stadium, we are a confident team playing in front of a full CMS on national television. Instead of losing by 8, I think we win and we head to Dallas 11-0 for our big matchup with SMU, but at worse we head to Dallas 10-1. Fernando doesn't sit out that one. Again, even if we lose we are still 10-2. But if we beat Syracuse and SMU…. It was an unprecedented opportunity.
It was squandered by Wilcox making Bloesch OC and then squandering 4 leads by going conservative. Taking away our program's growing momentum and Game Day energy. Moreover, if our talent level isn't good enough, that is due to Wilcox and his staff being the poorest recruiters I have seen at Cal. However, if we win the games we could have won with the players we had/have, if we were a "hot" team on the rise, playing regularly on ESPN, then our recruiting would undoubtedly be ALOT better.
We squandered an opportunity to do that last year. We have another opportunity this year, but if we don't start seizing these opportunities there won't be any.
Maybe Chapman will change his screen name.
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