Too Soft?

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K1min8r
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I'm rethinking some rumors and discussions in the past about how Cal football culture was too soft.

Is it a coincidence:
  • Cal lost a lot of big leads
  • Generally lost most close games
  • History of never being able to execute WR screens well (our WRs could not block)

I submit that these are all symptoms of a soft culture.

We've seen turnover in the RB room, and while the general consensus was that our coaches didn't know what they were doing and that everything was in chaos, maybe we needed a culture change from being too soft to actually having a hard-nosed team that's physical and can grind out close wins and bury teams rather than letting them come back from big leads.

Wilcox is responsible for the soft team culture. He allowed it. Hopefully, Harsin will get us to be a hard, physical, and aggressive football team.

A lot of speculation on my part after watching this:

oskiswifeshusband
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Can you remind me where this guy at now?
upsetof86
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K1min8r said:

I'm rethinking some rumors and discussions in the past about how Cal football culture was too soft.

Is it a coincidence:
  • Cal lost a lot of big leads
  • Generally lost most close games
  • History of never being able to execute WR screens well (our WRs could not block)

I submit that these are all symptoms of a soft culture.

We've seen turnover in the RB room, and while the general consensus was that our coaches didn't know what they were doing and that everything was in chaos, maybe we needed a culture change from being too soft to actually having a hard-nosed team that's physical and can grind out close wins and bury teams rather than letting them come back from big leads.

Wilcox is responsible for the soft team culture. He allowed it. Hopefully, Harsin will get us to be a hard, physical, and aggressive football team.

A lot of speculation on my part after watching this:




He states it loud and clear. A relief to not have to worry about hurting peoples feelings anymore vis a vis football culture. Why is this a question to anyone? Does anyone still think we should field a team of gentle young humanitarian scholars and win a championship that way? Lmao.
going4roses
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grrrrah
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He talks about his "purpose." "I get to play football here and not really worry about anything else." I'm guessing that as well as not "hurting someone's feelings," he also probably didn't like having to do coursework.
sluggo
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oskiswifeshusband said:

Can you remind me where this guy at now?
Hoping to catch on with the UFL. I guess that is his "purpose." But he ain't no softie.
calumnus
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sluggo said:

oskiswifeshusband said:

Can you remind me where this guy at now?
Hoping to catch on with the UFL. I guess that is his "purpose." But he ain't no softie.

We had 4th quarter collapses because of coaching. We stopped doing what was working (Mendoza throwing the ball downfield) and tried to run out the clock doing what wasn't working (predictably running up the middle).

People thinking we need to be more like Oklahoma in culture are missing the mark. There are tons of schools where a kid like this can go and only be a football player. not have to "worry about (respecting) others" and not have to expand his mind. The football players live in Berkeley, in the Bay Area and go to school at Cal. You cannot change that. You cannot have a football culture that is different than your school and community culture and exp ct support and buy-in. Moreover, embracing who we are is how we have landed our biggest recruits. Jaylen Brown, top ranked, smart, intellectual, political activist, is our ideal. We don't land him if we are not Berkeley.

Finally, this all has absolutely nothing to do with physical "toughness." Ron Rivera was plenty tough.
BearSD
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sluggo said:

oskiswifeshusband said:

Can you remind me where this guy at now?
Hoping to catch on with the UFL. I guess that is his "purpose." But he ain't no softie.
Ain't no softie, also ain't no college student.
Oakbear
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JW appears to play not to lose, this is not a tough philosophy, tough is we are going to run you off the field,
Bobodeluxe
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Oakbear said:

JW appears to play not to lose, this is not a tough philosophy, tough is we are going to run you off the field,
With a line that can't block.
sluggo
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calumnus said:

sluggo said:

oskiswifeshusband said:

Can you remind me where this guy at now?
Hoping to catch on with the UFL. I guess that is his "purpose." But he ain't no softie.

We had 4th quarter collapses because of coaching. We stopped doing what was working (Mendoza throwing the ball downfield) and tried to run out the clock doing what wasn't working (predictably running up the middle).

People thinking we need to be more like Oklahoma in culture are missing the mark. There are tons of schools where a kid like this can go and only be a football player. not have to "worry about (respecting) others" and not have to expand his mind. The football players live in Berkeley, in the Bay Area and go to school at Cal. You cannot change that. You cannot have a football culture that is different than your school and community culture and exp ct support and buy-in. Moreover, embracing who we are is how we have landed our biggest recruits. Jaylen Brown, top ranked, smart, intellectual, political activist, is our ideal. We don't land him if we are not Berkeley.

Finally, this all has absolutely nothing to do with physical "toughness." Ron Rivera was plenty tough.
I agree with you 100% and have over the years when you have advocated this view. We should lean in to who we are. The Calgorithm does this. We just hire the worst conceivable coaches in football and basketball and then give them lifetime contracts.
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