House Settlement and the Future of the California Legends Collective

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Late yesterday U.S. district Judge Claudia Wilken gave final approval of the House lawsuit settlement. This settlement not only resolves the complaints brought against the NCAA and its members by a class of student-athletes, but also sets out a structure that third-party collectives, such as California Legends, will have to follow on a go-forward basis. Under its terms, the final settlement and its limitations will take effect on June 30, 2025.

Having reviewed the settlement and its limitations, the Board and I have decided that the California Legends Collective will make its final payments to Cal's student-athletes on June 30th and we will suspend our operations at that time.

The reasons we have reached this decision are multifold. Chief among them is that under the House settlement every payment we make to every student-athlete over $600 would need to be presented to an NIL clearinghouse, who would then judge whether or not it was reflective of that student-athlete's true market value. We simply don't have the resources to make those arguments to the NCAA for each of Cal's 900 student-athletes. But as importantly, with the House settlement Cal donors will be able to receive a tax deduction for all of the money contributed to the school for NIL purposes, which is a welcome development but which also likely will make it impossible for us to argue that donors should give us non-tax-deductible contributions instead.

Based on my experience dealing with U.S. antitrust laws, I firmly believe that the $600 clearinghouse model and limitations are blatantly illegal and will eventually be challenged in court and thrown out, unless of course Congress grants the NCAA an antitrust exemption (which is still a very real possibility). But until it is thrown out on appeal or Congress acts, California Legends would have to operate in violation of the NCAA rules in order to continue to operate as we have done. And we would also be directly competing with Cal for donors and donations. As neither of those prospects is appealing, the board and I have determined our time is best spent going forward helping Cal itself raise funds to distribute as revenue share for our student-athletes. The recent campaign where my wife and I joined forces with Justin Wilcox, Ron Rivera and a few others to create a challenge grant that raised over $2.5m for Cal athletics in just a bit over a week was an early example of what we hope to accomplish. Should legal changes allow a collective like ours to serve Cal again in the future, we would also be more than willing to lend our knowledge and expertise to any alums who would like to take this on. I can promise that you won't be bored.

While it is a bittersweet moment for us all, we are pleased with what we accomplished and how conclusively we demonstrated that our community values competitive excellence and will invest to achieve it. With a lot of hard work (and your money) we have been able to begin shifting the trajectory of Cal's revenue sports. We put 10's of millions of dollars to work and brought in back-to-back top 20 portal classes for both football and MBB. We helped generate a level of enthusiasm for Cal athletics not seen in several decades and last year helped bring football college GameDay to Cal for the first time in its 37-year history.

Our robust NIL program was a key component in bringing Mark Madsen to Cal and convincing him this was a place where he could win championships and build a career. On football, while the final win/loss total for the prior season was disappointing (particularly for the coaches), we were within 9 points of a 10-win season and the team was far more competitive than it had been in decades, with the majority of our losses coming on the last play of the games. That doesn't happen without talent, and we helped provide sufficient top-tier talent to our coaches for the first time in quite some time. Of course, these recruiting battles can only be won with the tremendous efforts of Marshall Cherrington and Benji Palu on the recruiting staff don't know where we would be without them. On WBB, which had a very good regular season, we played a role, but honestly I think the main lesson is what more could be done to create a top-tier WBB team at Cal if just a few more donors would step up. Coach Smith has made great strides, but the real story is the opportunity. There's no reason Cal can't be an absolute force in women's basketball.

Through it all, we strove to maintain a reputation as not only a well-run and efficient organization, but also as a highly ethical one. On the efficiency, California Legends operated as a strictly volunteer organization with no overhead. All operating costs were paid by my fellow directors and myself, which allowed 100 cents of every dollar donated from fans to go to our student-athletes. I believe we were unique across all of college athletics in that regard. On the ethics, throughout our tenure every student who was promised a payment and remained at Cal received every penny they were promised. I was told by numerous agents that we were also unique in that regard and that our reputation in the industry was exemplary (meaning most of our deals could be done just with a handshake people knew our word was good enough). We strove to represent all of you effectively but also to allow you to take pride in our program. Hopefully we accomplished that goal.

A few words of thanks. First, I would like to thank Marshawn Lynch and BeastMode Marketing (with a special heartfelt thanks to Bryon Sheng and Andrea Ung who have been instrumental to our success). BeastMode has been an outstanding partner, creating the vast majority of our content and activations for our student-athletes. Marshawn lent us his fame and his superlative insights in brand management and asked nothing in return. He and his team did this to help Cal and our entire community owes them a tremendous debt of thanks. I also would like to thank our amazing advisory board members (DeSean Jackson, Layshia Clarendon, Valerie Arioto, Ryan Murphy and of course Marshawn himself) for their input and advice over these many years. We are blessed to have had all of them as partners.

I would also like to offer thanks to my fellow directors, John Stock, Greg Richardson and, until she recently stepped down to avoid conflicts given Ron Rivera's new role with the football team, Stephanie Rivera. They have been the rock on which all of our efforts and accomplishments were built. No one could have possibly given more or be more deserving of praise and appreciation for this (largely thankless) task. Their sage advice and help with fundraising, to say nothing of the considerable amount of their own money they have contributed, are beyond laudable and exemplary. A special shout out to my friend Greg Richardson, who not only willingly joined the board, but also owns and operates Bear Insider and maintains a full-time job. Greg also was the point person in dealing with a few player agents over the years that I had neither the patience nor frankly the temperament to handle. Truly a giant in the pantheon of Cal superfans.

Most importantly, I would like to thank our donors. Nothing we accomplished would have been possible without your support. While some established donors embraced this opportunity, we also found an entirely new class of donors for Cal athletics. People who were frustrated with the way things had been run and Cal's self-imposed limitations. They wanted to make a difference and change the trajectory of Cal athletics and saw our Collective as a way to do so. Interestingly, of the people who gave over $1m to the Collective, none of them had given anything remotely equivalent to Cal athletics before NIL. They were engaged by the mission and the opportunity we provided and they embraced it. Several became Builders of Berkeley through their donations to us. Finding and activating this vital constituency may be our proudest legacy.
And of course, to all the thousands of fans who contributed to us, thank you. The breadth of support we received was beyond heartening. You showed that you cared and you put your money to work. Regardless of the amount, ALL of your donations were meaningful and we could not have been more grateful for everything you did to help Cal.

I hope that those of you who have seen what can be accomplished and are encouraged by the progress we have made will continue to support Cal Athletics. I know I will. Cal needs your help more than ever and with your support our best days are truly ahead of us. Here is a link to the Cal Athletics donations page if you would like to help. https://give.berkeley.edu/funddrive/50?ac=92213&freq=MON. If you might like to write a bigger check, I know that Beth Voetsch and Adam Brooks from Athletic Development would love to hear from you (special shoutout to Adam who was my primary fundraising partner at Cal over many years, endlessly helping strategize how best to engage our donors. Thank you Adam).

Go Bears!
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kevin, ur passion with respects to the cal football program thru the years has been remarkable!!

what's your take on the cal athletic department handling donations after july 1st?

will any nil specific donations be offsetting the bureaucracy/salaries of jimmy, jenny & markeisha?

does the cal football program have a profit/loss statement separate from the athletic department?

if rich asked u to pick a new athletic director today, who would u pick?...do u share my view that the only viable candidate that could hit the ground running on their 1st day out in prioritizing the revenue sports & already self endowed programs like men's golf is andrew mcgraw?

r u gonna calculate ur billable rate for ur thousands of pro bono work with cal legends?

excited to see what happens this fall which in large part is a function of ur tireless work
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From the Chancellor to the faculty:

"Dear Academic Senate Colleagues,

I am writing today to share an important update regarding our university's response to the ongoing changes in intercollegiate athletics. As some of you may know, a number of lawsuits filed against the NCAA and the leading conferences were consolidated into what is now known as the "NCAA House Settlement." The settlement was preliminarily approved by the court last October and was just finalized on June 6th. With this development, there will be major changes across college sports, beginning on July 1, 2025.

There are two key components to this settlement agreement. First, it will allow universities to provide up to $20.5 million annually to student-athletes through a revenue-sharing pool that will, in our case, be made up of Athletics revenues, philanthropic funds, and some campus funds. For institutions that participate in revenue-sharing, the funds will primarily be provided to student-athletes in the form of compensation for the use of their "Name, Image, and Likeness" (NIL).

The agreement's second component will eliminate NCAA team scholarship limits and establish, in their place, team roster limits, which will cap the number of student-athletes per team (over time, reducing the total number of intercollegiate athletes in our current sports at Berkeley from around 900 to around 800). At the same time, universities will be allowed to increase the number of scholarships allocated to each of their teams. While no decisions have been made about any increase in our own scholarship allocations going forward, I expect any adjustments from central funds to be minimal.

My decision-making process was informed by valuable input and guidance I received from numerous members of our community, including the Academic Senate. After considering the various trade-offs, I decided that we will participate in this new revenue-sharing model in order to provide our teams with the necessary investments and resources they need to excel. I have also decided that our campus contributions to the new revenue-sharing pool must be matched by incremental philanthropic support donated specifically for this purpose. To motivate and inspire this level of philanthropy, particularly in this transition year, I have committed to match gifts to our revenue-sharing pool up to a maximum of $6m for football, $1.5m for men's basketball, and $500k for women's basketball. The amount allotted to each team is a direct function of the revenue each currently produces, consistent with the revenue-sharing principle in the House Settlement.

This was a difficult decision in the midst of tumultuous times for higher education. I am convinced that failing to participate in revenue sharing next year would close off a number of valuable options for our university in the future. For example, after the collapse of the Pac12 conference last year, Cal was allocated an additional $25m per year, starting this year, for three years, funded in part by UCLA's sizable media contract from its new conference. The Regental discussion at the time indicated that this $25m per year could continue for an additional three years only if certain conditions were met. A failure to invest in revenue sports over the next two years would materially reduce the likelihood that the allocation will continue for a full six years.

At the end of the day, the real question is how this all connects to our mission. From where I sit, alumni engagement is critical to our ability to support Berkeley's mission: They send us great students; they give our students internships; they teach for us, not to mention their role in the $7.3 billion capital campaign we recently completed. No single element of what we do has a greater, beneficial impact on alumni engagement than Intercollegiate Athletics, especially our football and basketball programs. Reasonable people can disagree on whether we get enough of what I refer to as "mission-advancing return" on our investment in Athletics. But there is no question that the return is important to all that we do together. (We just, for example, received the largest gift ever to Athletics, $26m, from a donor who in the last couple years gave the largest gift ever to the Haas School.)

While revenue-sharing is, at the moment, the best way to ensure our status and relevance at the highest level of intercollegiate competition, we must recognize that future developments can and likely will affect our actions and funding plans. I assure you that we will be carefully monitoring the situation, and we will continue to provide transparent reporting to the Senate in support of meaningful collaboration and partnership. I know that we share an expectation of greater fiscal accountability and responsibility when it comes to Cal Athletics' finances, including revenue generation.

I am grateful for Senate partnership over the past year as we have analyzed the changing landscape of intercollegiate athletics. In particular, I want to thank the CAPRA Subcommittee on Athletics that invested significant effort alongside the administration to analyze where we stand as a great research university in terms of athletics. That analysis included consideration of what our best options will be if sufficient success is not achieved in the coming years as the result of our investment in Athletics, up to and including a reduction in those investments.

While this message does focus almost exclusively on our investments in, and the finances of Cal Athletics, I want to assure you that I remain committed to upholding the highest academic standards for our student-athletes. By the same token, I am in the process of finalizing plans for new, significant investments in our research and education, particularly in the face of reduced federal funding. Those investments will be many multiples of the Athletics investments addressed here. I expect to share details about those plans in short order.

My continuing thanks to you all.

Fiat Lux,
Rich"
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Shocky1 said:

kevin, ur passion with respects to the cal football program thru the years has been remarkable!!

what's your take on the cal athletic department handling donations after july 1st?

will any nil specific donations be offsetting the bureaucracy/salaries of jimmy, jenny & markeisha?

does the cal football program have a profit/loss statement separate from the athletic department?

if rich asked u to pick a new athletic director today, who would u pick?...do u share my view that the only viable candidate that could hit the ground running on their 1st day out in prioritizing the revenue sports & already self endowed programs like men's golf is andrew mcgraw?

r u gonna calculate ur billable rate for ur thousands of pro bono work with cal legends?

excited to see what happens this fall which in large part is a function of ur tireless work
Thank you Bill. Will try to answer some of your questions.

Cal football does have a P&L statement separate from athletics. I just saw the latest version of it last week. But frankly, it's a mess. There is an absolutely huge and ridiculous amount of the revenue derived from "non-program specific" items, which is a joke. 40% of "GameDay revenue", for example, comes from "Non-program specific" sources. Hmmmm. I wonder what GameDay is generating that revenue, exactly? It's a mystery.

Let's just say that bottom line we have been underinvesting in football relative to what it's contributing and what it needs to win championships. Part of the work and advocacy we've been doing has been to shift that
paradigm and credit to the Chancellor that he's taking big steps to do so. This $20.5m revenue share, with 75% going to football, is a major step in that direction.

Love Andrew McGraw. He's outstanding on every level. After 27 years in football, there's nothing about Cal he doesn't know and the number of heads that would blow up with his ascension down in California Hall would be worth the price of admission by itself. But he'd have to want the job and I don't think he does.

If I applied my old billable rate to the work with California Legends, Cal would owe me about $15m. That's actually not that far off. But I did this as a labor of love and because my doctor told me I needed to find something less stressful to do with my life if I ever wanted to meet my future grandchildren. Obviously, I did a bad job in following this advice. Regardless, it was a labor of love. Hope it helped get things going in the right direction.
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Thank you, Sebastabear, we can't possibly commend you enough for all you've done for our beloved university. I shudder to think where we'd be without you (and the individuals you mentioned in your post).

You deserve an infinite amount of karma points.
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Thank you Kevin, my biggest source of consternation with your piece was the "largely thankless" portion. I, and all true California fans, would like to extend to you our heartfelt thanks; and I hope you extend to it all your partners including your wife. I hope that this doesn't disrupt our current recruiting momentum or derail our ability to acquire and retain top athletes but, regardless, you have been a paragon of hope for what I believe a Cal supporter can be. I hope to see a game with you someday and extend to you my appreciation in person.

God bless and Go Bears
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Bearly Clad said:

Thank you Kevin, my biggest source of consternation with your piece was the "largely thankless" portion. I, and all true California fans, would like to extend to you our heartfelt thanks; and I hope you extend to it all your partners including your wife. I hope that this doesn't disrupt our current recruiting momentum or derail our ability to acquire and retain top athletes but, regardless, you have been a paragon of hope for what I believe a Cal supporter can be. I hope to see a game with you someday and extend to you my appreciation in person.

God bless and Go Bears


"Largely thankless " in no way refers to any member of this community or really any donor. If anything, even those who disliked and disagreed with NIL have always been extraordinarily gracious.

Conversely, I do not believe it has always been entirely comfortable for our administration to have a source of influence outside of its control. A source of influence that did not always tow the company line.

I have mentioned before that we burned a mountain of Goodwill with the #GiveRonTheKeys movement. If anything "a mountain" probably understate it. But honestly, I do not care. I believe that one of the problems Cal has had is a donor class that has been far too willing to accept mediocrity for far too long. And personally, I'm not really looking for more friends. I have an embarrassment of riches in that regard. What I am looking for is people who share an unwavering commitment to seeing this program succeed regardless of the cost. Because otherwise, we are all just wasting our time.

Do what it takes to make Cal a competitor and I will back you to the end of the Earth. Don't and I will fight you for the same. It's actually pretty simple.

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Upto $150m in Calimony. Not bad.
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WildBear said:

Upto $150m in Calimony. Not bad.
I see where Rick Lyons states $25 million a year for 3 years and part of it is from UCLA. Are the Regents also contributing over and above that?
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Sebastabear said:

Late yesterday U.S. district Judge Claudia Wilken gave final approval of the House lawsuit settlement. This settlement not only resolves the complaints brought against the NCAA and its members by a class of student-athletes, but also sets out a structure that third-party collectives, such as California Legends, will have to follow on a go-forward basis. Under its terms, the final settlement and its limitations will take effect on June 30, 2025.

Having reviewed the settlement and its limitations, the Board and I have decided that the California Legends Collective will make its final payments to Cal's student-athletes on June 30th and we will suspend our operations at that time.

The reasons we have reached this decision are multifold. Chief among them is that under the House settlement every payment we make to every student-athlete over $600 would need to be presented to an NIL clearinghouse, who would then judge whether or not it was reflective of that student-athlete's true market value. We simply don't have the resources to make those arguments to the NCAA for each of Cal's 900 student-athletes. But as importantly, with the House settlement Cal donors will be able to receive a tax deduction for all of the money contributed to the school for NIL purposes, which is a welcome development but which also likely will make it impossible for us to argue that donors should give us non-tax-deductible contributions instead.

Based on my experience dealing with U.S. antitrust laws, I firmly believe that the $600 clearinghouse model and limitations are blatantly illegal and will eventually be challenged in court and thrown out, unless of course Congress grants the NCAA an antitrust exemption (which is still a very real possibility). But until it is thrown out on appeal or Congress acts, California Legends would have to operate in violation of the NCAA rules in order to continue to operate as we have done. And we would also be directly competing with Cal for donors and donations. As neither of those prospects is appealing, the board and I have determined our time is best spent going forward helping Cal itself raise funds to distribute as revenue share for our student-athletes. The recent campaign where my wife and I joined forces with Justin Wilcox, Ron Rivera and a few others to create a challenge grant that raised over $2.5m for Cal athletics in just a bit over a week was an early example of what we hope to accomplish. Should legal changes allow a collective like ours to serve Cal again in the future, we would also be more than willing to lend our knowledge and expertise to any alums who would like to take this on. I can promise that you won't be bored.

While it is a bittersweet moment for us all, we are pleased with what we accomplished and how conclusively we demonstrated that our community values competitive excellence and will invest to achieve it. With a lot of hard work (and your money) we have been able to begin shifting the trajectory of Cal's revenue sports. We put 10's of millions of dollars to work and brought in back-to-back top 20 portal classes for both football and MBB. We helped generate a level of enthusiasm for Cal athletics not seen in several decades and last year helped bring football college GameDay to Cal for the first time in its 37-year history.

Our robust NIL program was a key component in bringing Mark Madsen to Cal and convincing him this was a place where he could win championships and build a career. On football, while the final win/loss total for the prior season was disappointing (particularly for the coaches), we were within 9 points of a 10-win season and the team was far more competitive than it had been in decades, with the majority of our losses coming on the last play of the games. That doesn't happen without talent, and we helped provide sufficient top-tier talent to our coaches for the first time in quite some time. Of course, these recruiting battles can only be won with the tremendous efforts of Marshall Cherrington and Benji Palu on the recruiting staff don't know where we would be without them. On WBB, which had a very good regular season, we played a role, but honestly I think the main lesson is what more could be done to create a top-tier WBB team at Cal if just a few more donors would step up. Coach Smith has made great strides, but the real story is the opportunity. There's no reason Cal can't be an absolute force in women's basketball.

Through it all, we strove to maintain a reputation as not only a well-run and efficient organization, but also as a highly ethical one. On the efficiency, California Legends operated as a strictly volunteer organization with no overhead. All operating costs were paid by my fellow directors and myself, which allowed 100 cents of every dollar donated from fans to go to our student-athletes. I believe we were unique across all of college athletics in that regard. On the ethics, throughout our tenure every student who was promised a payment and remained at Cal received every penny they were promised. I was told by numerous agents that we were also unique in that regard and that our reputation in the industry was exemplary (meaning most of our deals could be done just with a handshake people knew our word was good enough). We strove to represent all of you effectively but also to allow you to take pride in our program. Hopefully we accomplished that goal.

A few words of thanks. First, I would like to thank Marshawn Lynch and BeastMode Marketing (with a special heartfelt thanks to Bryon Sheng and Andrea Ung who have been instrumental to our success). BeastMode has been an outstanding partner, creating the vast majority of our content and activations for our student-athletes. Marshawn lent us his fame and his superlative insights in brand management and asked nothing in return. He and his team did this to help Cal and our entire community owes them a tremendous debt of thanks. I also would like to thank our amazing advisory board members (DeSean Jackson, Layshia Clarendon, Valerie Arioto, Ryan Murphy and of course Marshawn himself) for their input and advice over these many years. We are blessed to have had all of them as partners.

I would also like to offer thanks to my fellow directors, John Stock, Greg Richardson and, until she recently stepped down to avoid conflicts given Ron Rivera's new role with the football team, Stephanie Rivera. They have been the rock on which all of our efforts and accomplishments were built. No one could have possibly given more or be more deserving of praise and appreciation for this (largely thankless) task. Their sage advice and help with fundraising, to say nothing of the considerable amount of their own money they have contributed, are beyond laudable and exemplary. A special shout out to my friend Greg Richardson, who not only willingly joined the board, but also owns and operates Bear Insider and maintains a full-time job. Greg also was the point person in dealing with a few player agents over the years that I had neither the patience nor frankly the temperament to handle. Truly a giant in the pantheon of Cal superfans.

Most importantly, I would like to thank our donors. Nothing we accomplished would have been possible without your support. While some established donors embraced this opportunity, we also found an entirely new class of donors for Cal athletics. People who were frustrated with the way things had been run and Cal's self-imposed limitations. They wanted to make a difference and change the trajectory of Cal athletics and saw our Collective as a way to do so. Interestingly, of the people who gave over $1m to the Collective, none of them had given anything remotely equivalent to Cal athletics before NIL. They were engaged by the mission and the opportunity we provided and they embraced it. Several became Builders of Berkeley through their donations to us. Finding and activating this vital constituency may be our proudest legacy.
And of course, to all the thousands of fans who contributed to us, thank you. The breadth of support we received was beyond heartening. You showed that you cared and you put your money to work. Regardless of the amount, ALL of your donations were meaningful and we could not have been more grateful for everything you did to help Cal.

I hope that those of you who have seen what can be accomplished and are encouraged by the progress we have made will continue to support Cal Athletics. I know I will. Cal needs your help more than ever and with your support our best days are truly ahead of us. Here is a link to the Cal Athletics donations page if you would like to help. https://give.berkeley.edu/funddrive/50?ac=92213&freq=MON. If you might like to write a bigger check, I know that Beth Voetsch and Adam Brooks from Athletic Development would love to hear from you (special shoutout to Adam who was my primary fundraising partner at Cal over many years, endlessly helping strategize how best to engage our donors. Thank you Adam).

Go Bears!

Thank you for all you have done, are doing and will do to help Cal FB, MBB and WBB.
I have read bits and pieces of what is included in the House Settlement. But i am still in a fog and have not seen any bullet point summary. For example i have heard that the Settlement does away with walk-ons. That the the Major Leagues are setting up criteria for reviewing contracts between the players and the colleges. And there is some provisions for certain players to go back to the teams they left.
But i have not heard whether there are any limits on when and how often players can jump from one team to another. And who is going to enforce the contracts.

Heck if there is a link to the text of the House Settlement, can someone post it [Maybe someone already has posted it but i haven't seen it.]

Thanks and Go Bears.
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Yeah probably part ucla, part regents:

"For example, after the collapse of the Pac12 conference last year, Cal was allocated an additional $25m per year, starting this year, for three years, funded in part by UCLA's sizable media contract from its new conference. The Regental discussion at the time indicated that this $25m per year could continue for an additional three years only if certain conditions were met. A failure to invest in revenue sports over the next two years would materially reduce the likelihood that the allocation will continue for a full six years."
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I hope Ron Rivera can get a guarantee from the Cal Chancellor and AD that all donations to the Football and Basketball teams goes directly to them.
Roll on you Bears!
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BearoutEast67 said:

I hope Ron Rivera can get a guarantee from the Cal Chancellor and AD that all donations to the Football and Basketball teams goes directly to them.
Don't all donations have a +10% that goes not to the location for the donation but to some pot that the Chancellor controls?
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Chabbear said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I hope Ron Rivera can get a guarantee from the Cal Chancellor and AD that all donations to the Football and Basketball teams goes directly to them.
Don't all donations have a +10% that goes not to the location for the donation but to some pot that the Chancellor controls?
7.5%. And yes that is how Cal pays for its non sexy stuff like deferred maintenance on its buildings. Used to be that sports got charged a higher percentage than non sports donations (as if our money was somehow less "worthy" of going to its intended use). Luckily this was one of the things Carol Christ got rid of. Same rate across the board now.

Getting a tax deduction though now still makes this a better deal for donors, even with 7.5% coming across the top.
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So Cal will honor all current Legends deals?
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ncbears said:

So Cal will honor all current Legends deals?
Hopefully what I wrote was clear. We are paying all of our money out by June 30 as mandated by the House settlement, but we have not made any promises that extend beyond that date. Hence there is nothing for Cal to "honor". Cal of course has struck its own revenue share deals with students and those all kick in on July 1st.
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Sebastabear said:

Cal of course has struck its own revenue share deals with students and those all kick in on July 1st.


First off, Kevin, thanks for all you have done for our beloved Cal programs. It was very comforting knowing someone with your intelligence, capability and sensibility was leading us. That said, when you say "Cal has struck its own revenue deals" it raises some concern. Who is the one making those decisions and negotiating those deals for Cal?
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calumnus said:

Sebastabear said:

Cal of course has struck its own revenue share deals with students and those all kick in on July 1st.


First off, Kevin, thanks for all you have done for our beloved Cal programs. It was very comforting knowing someone with your intelligence, capability and sensibility was leading us. That said, when you say "Cal has struck its own revenue deals" it raises some concern. Who is the one making those decisions and negotiating those deals for Cal?
Thank you. So as I said, Cal is striking its own revenue share deals with each player and in each sport. No different at Cal than any other school, or really any other job. Player comes into a room and Cal coach says we love you, you are amazing, we are prepared to offer you X. Player decides if they are happy with X or if they want to ask for Y.

Person making these decisions in a professional sport (NFL, NBA, etc.) would be the GM. And definitely that's somewhat true here as well although I would say it's much more of a team effort. Coach Wilcox, Marshall Cherrington as the director of player personnel and, of course, Ron Rivera all get together and have input. They are managing to a salary cap. They need to engage in moneyball and do a lot of the things we at the Collective have been doing for the past several years. I think they are more than up to the task.

If your real question though is are members of the administration putting their thumbs on this particular scale, the answer is no they are definitely not. These decisions are being made by the football guys.
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Another thank you for all that you and your collective did these last few years. It wasn't just the money - which was very very very significant - but it was the hope and optimism and spirt that you created/activated/channeled.
Thank you so much!
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Thanks for everything you have done. I'm worried that once the university takes hold of this "system" how it's going to get screwed up. Hopefully the powers that be retain you as a critical resource in bringing this on board and that all the work you did to bring credibility to the collective is continued.
Priest of the Patty Hearst Shrine
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cal83dls79 said:

Thanks for everything you have done. I'm worried that once the university takes hold of this "system" how it's going to get screwed up. Hopefully the powers that be retain you as a critical resource in bringing this on board and that all the work you did to bring credibility to the collective is continued.
That's a pretty high bar, expecting the University to maintain that "bottom third" success rate in the major revenue sports.
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Chabbear said:

BearoutEast67 said:

I hope Ron Rivera can get a guarantee from the Cal Chancellor and AD that all donations to the Football and Basketball teams goes directly to them.
Don't all donations have a +10% that goes not to the location for the donation but to some pot that the Chancellor controls?
thanks for sharing so much info Sebastabear!
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Bobodeluxe said:

cal83dls79 said:

Thanks for everything you have done. I'm worried that once the university takes hold of this "system" how it's going to get screwed up. Hopefully the powers that be retain you as a critical resource in bringing this on board and that all the work you did to bring credibility to the collective is continued.
That's a pretty high bar, expecting the University to maintain that "bottom third" success rate in the major revenue sports.
We are (I think justifiably) proud of the multiple top 20 portal classes we were able to bring to Cal in our revenue sports and for helping set the stage for our recent successes in high school recruiting. But we don't coach the games. Results on the field are outside of our control. We were just providing the talent.

But if you think you can do better, by all means have at it. The field is currently wide open. Other than an ungodly amount of time, money and organizational skills there are no barriers entry.
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I am not a University, with a Professional Minor League Football team. The poke was aimed at 7983 for worrying about how the University will handle the job of running the business in the new financial system.

It should be acknowledged that the losses to the portal were perhaps "top twenty" or higher. No knock on your efforts in a ridiculously unbalanced "playing field".

Baling with a bucket, after the rudder and keel have parted, might not enable the boat make landfall.
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Legends did more than just help with NIL. They were also able to excel in area's that our own marketing department has fallen short.

Billboards amplifying the calgorithm and announcing our presence in the ACC have been huge. I'd love to see something similar done in our own back yard too.

Is there going to be any appetite to continue these efforts or are we stuck with what our current marketing team has done in the past?
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MrGPAC said:

Legends did more than just help with NIL. They were also able to excel in area's that our own marketing department has fallen short.

Billboards amplifying the calgorithm and announcing our presence in the ACC have been huge. I'd love to see something similar done in our own back yard too.

Is there going to be any appetite to continue these efforts or are we stuck with what our current marketing team has done in the past?
Got something cooking right now to boost our local marketing. Hopefully we can publicly unveil that soon. Not stepping away from that part of the "job." Or, to quote Spamalot, "I'm not dead, yet."
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SonomanA1 said:

WildBear said:

Upto $150m in Calimony. Not bad.
I see where Rick Lyons states $25 million a year for 3 years and part of it is from UCLA. Are the Regents also contributing over and above that?
At that last regents meeting where UCLA and Cal discussed athletics, it was made clear that 15 million was given to both Cal and UCLA during this period, plus Cal got an additional $10 million from UCLA. That $30 million was given from the regents from the UC general fund, or whatever they call it.
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Sebastabear said:

MrGPAC said:

Legends did more than just help with NIL. They were also able to excel in area's that our own marketing department has fallen short.

Billboards amplifying the calgorithm and announcing our presence in the ACC have been huge. I'd love to see something similar done in our own back yard too.

Is there going to be any appetite to continue these efforts or are we stuck with what our current marketing team has done in the past?
Got something cooking right now to boost our local marketing. Hopefully we can publicly unveil that soon. Not stepping away from that part of the "job." Or, to quote Spamalot, "I'm not dead, yet."
I think I love you. There I said it.
Give to Cal Legends!

https://calegends.com/donation/ Do it now. Text every Cal fan you know, give them the link, tell them how much you gave, and ask them to text every Cal fan they know and do the same.
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Sebastabear said:

Bearly Clad said:

Thank you Kevin, my biggest source of consternation with your piece was the "largely thankless" portion. I, and all true California fans, would like to extend to you our heartfelt thanks; and I hope you extend to it all your partners including your wife. I hope that this doesn't disrupt our current recruiting momentum or derail our ability to acquire and retain top athletes but, regardless, you have been a paragon of hope for what I believe a Cal supporter can be. I hope to see a game with you someday and extend to you my appreciation in person.

God bless and Go Bears


"Largely thankless " in no way refers to any member of this community or really any donor. If anything, even those who disliked and disagreed with NIL have always been extraordinarily gracious.

Conversely, I do not believe it has always been entirely comfortable for our administration to have a source of influence outside of its control. A source of influence that did not always tow the company line.

I have mentioned before that we burned a mountain of Goodwill with the #GiveRonTheKeys movement. If anything "a mountain" probably understate it. But honestly, I do not care. I believe that one of the problems Cal has had is a donor class that has been far too willing to accept mediocrity for far too long. And personally, I'm not really looking for more friends. I have an embarrassment of riches in that regard. What I am looking for is people who share an unwavering commitment to seeing this program succeed regardless of the cost. Because otherwise, we are all just wasting our time.

Do what it takes to make Cal a competitor and I will back you to the end of the Earth. Don't and I will fight you for the same. It's actually pretty simple.


Sebastabear, time and time again, thank you for being the true hero we don't deserve.

This statement you just shared have me the most worried. The fact that we are trying to give Ron (a football guy we hired) the football operations was met with resistance. It doesn't surprise me, but reading between the lines, a lot of the admin folks were not happy with this decision.

What can we do as fans and donors to root out this level of complacency and incompetence? is it too entrenched? A lot of us have professional jobs (albeit maybe no contracts). We would have been fired long ago if our product is what Knowlton has produced. How do we help Cal get rid of these bureaucrats and put in performance driven folks who will focus on results rather than status quo?
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Thanks for the work you did/doing Sebastabear, you're a great Cal Bear.
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TedfordTheGreat said:

Sebastabear said:

Bearly Clad said:

Thank you Kevin, my biggest source of consternation with your piece was the "largely thankless" portion. I, and all true California fans, would like to extend to you our heartfelt thanks; and I hope you extend to it all your partners including your wife. I hope that this doesn't disrupt our current recruiting momentum or derail our ability to acquire and retain top athletes but, regardless, you have been a paragon of hope for what I believe a Cal supporter can be. I hope to see a game with you someday and extend to you my appreciation in person.

God bless and Go Bears


"Largely thankless " in no way refers to any member of this community or really any donor. If anything, even those who disliked and disagreed with NIL have always been extraordinarily gracious.

Conversely, I do not believe it has always been entirely comfortable for our administration to have a source of influence outside of its control. A source of influence that did not always tow the company line.

I have mentioned before that we burned a mountain of Goodwill with the #GiveRonTheKeys movement. If anything "a mountain" probably understate it. But honestly, I do not care. I believe that one of the problems Cal has had is a donor class that has been far too willing to accept mediocrity for far too long. And personally, I'm not really looking for more friends. I have an embarrassment of riches in that regard. What I am looking for is people who share an unwavering commitment to seeing this program succeed regardless of the cost. Because otherwise, we are all just wasting our time.

Do what it takes to make Cal a competitor and I will back you to the end of the Earth. Don't and I will fight you for the same. It's actually pretty simple.


Sebastabear, time and time again, thank you for being the true hero we don't deserve.

This statement you just shared have me the most worried. The fact that we are trying to give Ron (a football guy we hired) the football operations was met with resistance. It doesn't surprise me, but reading between the lines, a lot of the admin folks were not happy with this decision.

What can we do as fans and donors to root out this level of complacency and incompetence? is it too entrenched? A lot of us have professional jobs (albeit maybe no contracts). We would have been fired long ago if our product is what Knowlton has produced. How do we help Cal get rid of these bureaucrats and put in performance driven folks who will focus on results rather than status quo?
Thank you. I feel like things are heading in the right direction. To the extent the fan base needed to speak out that message has been delivered. I think our collective thoughts are known - no pun intended.
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An appeal has been filed on behalf of women athletes.
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Based on what? The '75-10-5-5-5' distribution formula (or whatever the exact breakdown is) covers all university athletic programs, men's AND women's. And, for God's sake, there IS no 'women's fb program to be demanding any form of Title IX 'parity' for.
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With the dissolution of California Legends and with Knowlton's retirement I hereby nominate Sebastabear for AD. I am very serious.

We need a smart, passionate Cal alum who understands NIL and the new, ever evolving landscape, is smart enough to surround himself with knowledgable former Cal athletes, already knows everyone at Cal, can replace the people who need to be replaced, already works with Rivera and the teams so he can hit the ground running.
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calumnus said:

With the dissolution of California Legends and with Knowlton's retirement I hereby nominate Sebastabear for AD. I am very serious.

We need a smart, passionate Cal alum who understands NIL and the new, ever evolving landscape, is smart enough to surround himself with knowledgable former Cal athletes, already knows everyone at Cal, can replace the people who need to be replaced, already works with Rivera and the teams so he can hit the ground running.
You are far too kind. I really appreciate the sentiment. But Cal tried installing a donor as AD and it did not go well (to put it mildly). The day for amateurs is over and I am just some yahoo who's main assets are a keyboard and a telephone. Plus I'd probably fire 75% of our administration on day one which would be a little too much chaos. Chancellor has a lot of other things on his plate.

What Cal badly needs at this moment in time is a professional AD with a deep rolodex, both of talented up and coming coaches but also of influential media executives and power brokers in other conferences. Cal needs to treat this like a business and we need serious people with a complete understanding of the sport and credibility in it. Loving Cal is a nice add on but I am definitely not the hero Cal needs right now.

Good news is that for all intents and purposes Ron Rivera is the football AD and will be for the foreseeable future. Really excited to see what he can accomplish for the Bears.

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