Thoughts on the Recruiting Fast Start

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Bearly Clad
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I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
DaveK180
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These are good points. Obviously, Anae and the Poly connections are important. We also must be lowering admission standards somewhat which is long overdue. But imagine what could be done with a NIL bonanza to capture the even higher rated recruits out there. With all its attributes now being properly promoted, Cal could be a powder keg ready to explode with a band of sugar daddies pulling the trigger.
Big C
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I'm wondering if there might have been a residual positive from GameDay / Calgorithim, where recruits got it in their heads that Cal is a pretty cool place to be and they put us in their Top Ten... and then the more they saw, the more they liked.
MilleniaBear
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My reading comprehension might be fading as I age but I don't see the roster limit on the # of players on your list. Basically bluebloods used to fill the scholarship limit AND then have a walk-on program that got paid under/over the table. Now the NCAA is putting a limit on players so you can't just show up and count on NIL without the scholarship. Better to grab a scholly/NIL and adjust/transfer after a year than get left out in the cold.
Bearly Clad
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No but that's a good addition, no more teams hoarding 90 man rosters of 4/5* players who are stuck and can't transfer without sitting out a year and no more stigmatization of players who transfer after year 1 - which used to be seen as a red flag.

Big C made a solid point too about GameDay, a couple commits cited that they visited that weekend and seeing the excitement and the atmosphere that we had waiting to be unlocked was a big factor. I would also add the exposure of the ACC deal where we're on ESPN and national broadcasts more often so people outside of the West Coast are actually seeing us play.

Dave too, just imagine what Kevin (Sebastabear) and a couple of his ilk can do now that they have the time to make money and focus on personal investments while support Cal football instead of having to shoulder the NIL burden while working a full-time job for free - although not really for free since they were also donating, it was more like paying the program to work for them
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I don't think the admission standards have changed at all. Still need UC eligibility with a very limited number of waivers. But these kids all seem to have well above 3.0 GPAs, which is what is required.
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Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
i think your third point has some validity.
i would also add (along similar lines) the recent fear that there might be no more room for walk-ons under the new rules. Better for a 3* to take a scholarship and have a guaranteed position on a team then being left on the outside looking in.
MinotStateBeav
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Yeah portal guys should only get into it if they are guaranteed a landing spot. That means being contacted by another team. Blindly going into the portal is asking for trouble. You better make sure the team that wants you is very clear on their intentions.
Bobodeluxe
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MinotStateBeav said:

Yeah portal guys should only get into it if they are guaranteed a landing spot. That means being contacted by another team. Blindly going into the portal is asking for trouble. You better make sure the team that wants you is very clear on their intentions.
Any mercenary dumb enough to portalize without several offers in his agents slimy hands deserves jc.
mbBear
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Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
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mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.


Perhaps I'm jaded, but even if they sign, it doesnt mean anything. They can transfer after spring ball and transfer after playing 4 games into the season and still maintain eligibility. Point being, having someone enrolled at your school doesnt even guarantee they will play for the team anymore, so when I hear of early commitments, I temper my expectations.
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DaveK180 said:

These are good points. Obviously, Anae and the Poly connections are important. We also must be lowering admission standards somewhat which is long overdue. But imagine what could be done with a NIL bonanza to capture the even higher rated recruits out there. With all its attributes now being properly promoted, Cal could be a powder keg ready to explode with a band of sugar daddies pulling the trigger.
Based on what I've read about HS grade inflation, I doubt Cal has had to lower their admission standards. But what definitely hasn't changed is the rigor of Cal academics, so the Athletic Department better have a really strong academic support structure in place for these recruits so they can compete in the classroom as well as on the field.
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mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
I think these recruits are a bit smarter than many want to give them credit for. I expect Wilcox to be gone. I think the bigger issue will be around timing and the next HC choice. I think it is very likely the next HC is on the staff today.

Oregon and others are not going to quit recruiting Tommy Tofi. They just offered his younger brother (Ernie class of 2028) and very likely will target Johm Tofi as well. Cal needs to win. Wilcox is irrelevant IMO other than his buyout. Dead man walking.
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6956bear said:

mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
I think these recruits are a bit smarter than many want to give them credit for. I expect Wilcox to be gone. I think the bigger issue will be around timing and the next HC choice. I think it is very likely the next HC is on the staff today.

Oregon and others are not going to quit recruiting Tommy Tofi. They just offered his younger brother (Ernie class of 2028) and very likely will target Johm Tofi as well. Cal needs to win. Wilcox is irrelevant IMO other than his buyout. Dead man walking.


I don't see that math adding up: Cal doesn't do well enough to keep Wilcox, but somehow Harsin or Rolovich does enough to impress, and excite the fan base?
They would also have to impress Rivera. Ron has an incredibly centered ego, so anything is possible, but I see him cleaning house more than promoting guys he had nothing to do with bringing in.... just my opinion, and hey, maybe the Cal offense is really something, but still end up 5-7...
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MinotStateBeav said:

Yeah portal guys should only get into it if they are guaranteed a landing spot. That means being contacted by another team. Blindly going into the portal is asking for trouble. You better make sure the team that wants you is very clear on their intentions.
Great minds think alike. I came to the same conclusion that you did. This factor might have a very significant impact on the number of people entering the portal. A player would be crazy to enter the portal voluntarily unless (1) he has good assurances that some team will take him on (2) his new team situation will be better than his old team situation. No more deciding to jump into the Portal just because you are angry with the coach for some reason.
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mbBear said:

6956bear said:

mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
I think these recruits are a bit smarter than many want to give them credit for. I expect Wilcox to be gone. I think the bigger issue will be around timing and the next HC choice. I think it is very likely the next HC is on the staff today.

Oregon and others are not going to quit recruiting Tommy Tofi. They just offered his younger brother (Ernie class of 2028) and very likely will target Johm Tofi as well. Cal needs to win. Wilcox is irrelevant IMO other than his buyout. Dead man walking.


I don't see that math adding up: Cal doesn't do well enough to keep Wilcox, but somehow Harsin or Rolovich does enough to impress, and excite the fan base?
They would also have to impress Rivera. Ron has an incredibly centered ego, so anything is possible, but I see him cleaning house more than promoting guys he had nothing to do with bringing in.... just my opinion, and hey, maybe the Cal offense is really something, but still end up 5-7...

i am willing to trust RR in making that decision. If the new 2025 Cal Offense is scoring 35 points a game but allowing the other teams to score 42 points per game. I could see RR firing Wilcox and the DC and promoting Harsin/Rolovich to HC/OC (or OC/HC. We need RESULTS not EXCUSES.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda no longer carry any weight.

Just think that in 2024 Cal shoulda, woulda, coulda been 10-2 during the regular season.
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However that dynamic, and HC decision, plays out - whether Cal underperforms this season and JW is canned, or whether his successor is Harsin, Rolo, or a currently unknown external hire - I have extreme confidence that RR will correctly assess the HC options and select an excellent and highly qualified successor to JW. Ron KNOWS coaching qualifications, and 'coaching quality'. And he owns a DEEP rolodex.
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mbBear said:

6956bear said:

mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
I think these recruits are a bit smarter than many want to give them credit for. I expect Wilcox to be gone. I think the bigger issue will be around timing and the next HC choice. I think it is very likely the next HC is on the staff today.

Oregon and others are not going to quit recruiting Tommy Tofi. They just offered his younger brother (Ernie class of 2028) and very likely will target Johm Tofi as well. Cal needs to win. Wilcox is irrelevant IMO other than his buyout. Dead man walking.


I don't see that math adding up: Cal doesn't do well enough to keep Wilcox, but somehow Harsin or Rolovich does enough to impress, and excite the fan base?
They would also have to impress Rivera. Ron has an incredibly centered ego, so anything is possible, but I see him cleaning house more than promoting guys he had nothing to do with bringing in.... just my opinion, and hey, maybe the Cal offense is really something, but still end up 5-7...

Certainly possible. GMs and HCs like working with folks they chose rather than what is simply on hand. My belief though is Ron is working with these folks daily. He sees their pros and cons. Also Ron is an NFL lifer. The college game is different than the pro game. IMO the possbility of really liking someone from this staff to take over is higher once he sees them through a complete cycle. But it is possible that neither distinguish themselves as well.

Also while many see Rolo and Harsin as having more cons than pros they both have been HCs before and won games. And if the team once again has a below par season that can be attributed to Wilcox. But if they do better than expected they would get and deserve some real credit.

Now if Ron could work a deal to attract a current sitting HC that has really won a lot that could be really good. Ron will know these current staffers very well by seasons end. He may not be impressed with what he finds out. But I think both Rolo and Harsin have real interest in trying to forge a good impression and Rivera as a football person understands the role much better than a normal AD might. And certainly much better than what Knowlton would.
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GivemTheAxe said:

mbBear said:

6956bear said:

mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
I think these recruits are a bit smarter than many want to give them credit for. I expect Wilcox to be gone. I think the bigger issue will be around timing and the next HC choice. I think it is very likely the next HC is on the staff today.

Oregon and others are not going to quit recruiting Tommy Tofi. They just offered his younger brother (Ernie class of 2028) and very likely will target Johm Tofi as well. Cal needs to win. Wilcox is irrelevant IMO other than his buyout. Dead man walking.


I don't see that math adding up: Cal doesn't do well enough to keep Wilcox, but somehow Harsin or Rolovich does enough to impress, and excite the fan base?
They would also have to impress Rivera. Ron has an incredibly centered ego, so anything is possible, but I see him cleaning house more than promoting guys he had nothing to do with bringing in.... just my opinion, and hey, maybe the Cal offense is really something, but still end up 5-7...

i am willing to trust RR in making that decision. If the new 2025 Cal Offense is scoring 35 points a game but allowing the other teams to score 42 points per game. I could see RR firing Wilcox and the DC and promoting Harsin/Rolovich to HC/OC (or OC/HC. We need RESULTS not EXCUSES.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda no longer carry any weight.

Just think that in 2024 Cal shoulda, woulda, coulda been 10-2 during the regular season.
I totally trust Ron. I also know that being a "Cal guy" and fan means that he has felt the frustration of the Wilcox years, like most of us...so it's going to be whatever a "clean slate" and the new future of Cal football needs to feel like.
I also know Ron knows a lot more people in football than many here understand. An "excuse" to me is to hire guys that are already in-house because they are in-house. They need to measure up against his standards and the folks he knows...
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6956bear said:

mbBear said:

6956bear said:

mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
I think these recruits are a bit smarter than many want to give them credit for. I expect Wilcox to be gone. I think the bigger issue will be around timing and the next HC choice. I think it is very likely the next HC is on the staff today.

Oregon and others are not going to quit recruiting Tommy Tofi. They just offered his younger brother (Ernie class of 2028) and very likely will target Johm Tofi as well. Cal needs to win. Wilcox is irrelevant IMO other than his buyout. Dead man walking.


I don't see that math adding up: Cal doesn't do well enough to keep Wilcox, but somehow Harsin or Rolovich does enough to impress, and excite the fan base?
They would also have to impress Rivera. Ron has an incredibly centered ego, so anything is possible, but I see him cleaning house more than promoting guys he had nothing to do with bringing in.... just my opinion, and hey, maybe the Cal offense is really something, but still end up 5-7...

Certainly possible. GMs and HCs like working with folks they chose rather than what is simply on hand. My belief though is Ron is working with these folks daily. He sees their pros and cons. Also Ron is an NFL lifer. The college game is different than the pro game. IMO the possbility of really liking someone from this staff to take over is higher once he sees them through a complete cycle. But it is possible that neither distinguish themselves as well.

Also while many see Rolo and Harsin as having more cons than pros they both have been HCs before and won games. And if the team once again has a below par season that can be attributed to Wilcox. But if they do better than expected they would get and deserve some real credit.

Now if Ron could work a deal to attract a current sitting HC that has really won a lot that could be really good. Ron will know these current staffers very well by seasons end. He may not be impressed with what he finds out. But I think both Rolo and Harsin have real interest in trying to forge a good impression and Rivera as a football person understands the role much better than a normal AD might. And certainly much better than what Knowlton would.


With Harsin and Rolo, at least you have some qualified interim coaches for when Wilcox underwhelms.
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GivemTheAxe said:

mbBear said:

6956bear said:

mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
I think these recruits are a bit smarter than many want to give them credit for. I expect Wilcox to be gone. I think the bigger issue will be around timing and the next HC choice. I think it is very likely the next HC is on the staff today.

Oregon and others are not going to quit recruiting Tommy Tofi. They just offered his younger brother (Ernie class of 2028) and very likely will target Johm Tofi as well. Cal needs to win. Wilcox is irrelevant IMO other than his buyout. Dead man walking.


I don't see that math adding up: Cal doesn't do well enough to keep Wilcox, but somehow Harsin or Rolovich does enough to impress, and excite the fan base?
They would also have to impress Rivera. Ron has an incredibly centered ego, so anything is possible, but I see him cleaning house more than promoting guys he had nothing to do with bringing in.... just my opinion, and hey, maybe the Cal offense is really something, but still end up 5-7...

i am willing to trust RR in making that decision. If the new 2025 Cal Offense is scoring 35 points a game but allowing the other teams to score 42 points per game. I could see RR firing Wilcox and the DC and promoting Harsin/Rolovich to HC/OC (or OC/HC. We need RESULTS not EXCUSES.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda no longer carry any weight.

Just think that in 2024 Cal shoulda, woulda, coulda been 10-2 during the regular season.


I am sure that if we didn't choke those 4 games away through bad 4th quarter game management and we were undefeated and ranked playing in front of a sold out Memorial Stadium against Syracuse, we don't come out flat like we did and we are 11-0 heading to Dallas for the big showdown for 1st place in the ACC with 10-1 SMU. You can bet Mendoza plays in that one. Even assuming we lose we would have had a better record than Clemson, maybe a rematch with SMU in the ACC Championship Game, maybe make the playoffs (where we would get slaughtered)?

Mendoza, Ott, The Jet, Endries, Hunter….all our offense, would likely return for this season. We would be the talk of college football. We would be pulling in 4 star and even 5 star talent in the Portal instead of "high" 3 star.
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golden sloth said:

6956bear said:

mbBear said:

6956bear said:

mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
I think these recruits are a bit smarter than many want to give them credit for. I expect Wilcox to be gone. I think the bigger issue will be around timing and the next HC choice. I think it is very likely the next HC is on the staff today.

Oregon and others are not going to quit recruiting Tommy Tofi. They just offered his younger brother (Ernie class of 2028) and very likely will target Johm Tofi as well. Cal needs to win. Wilcox is irrelevant IMO other than his buyout. Dead man walking.


I don't see that math adding up: Cal doesn't do well enough to keep Wilcox, but somehow Harsin or Rolovich does enough to impress, and excite the fan base?
They would also have to impress Rivera. Ron has an incredibly centered ego, so anything is possible, but I see him cleaning house more than promoting guys he had nothing to do with bringing in.... just my opinion, and hey, maybe the Cal offense is really something, but still end up 5-7...

Certainly possible. GMs and HCs like working with folks they chose rather than what is simply on hand. My belief though is Ron is working with these folks daily. He sees their pros and cons. Also Ron is an NFL lifer. The college game is different than the pro game. IMO the possbility of really liking someone from this staff to take over is higher once he sees them through a complete cycle. But it is possible that neither distinguish themselves as well.

Also while many see Rolo and Harsin as having more cons than pros they both have been HCs before and won games. And if the team once again has a below par season that can be attributed to Wilcox. But if they do better than expected they would get and deserve some real credit.

Now if Ron could work a deal to attract a current sitting HC that has really won a lot that could be really good. Ron will know these current staffers very well by seasons end. He may not be impressed with what he finds out. But I think both Rolo and Harsin have real interest in trying to forge a good impression and Rivera as a football person understands the role much better than a normal AD might. And certainly much better than what Knowlton would.


With Harsin and Rolo, at least you have some qualified interim coaches for when Wilcox underwhelms.


Ron Rivera is even more qualified.
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6956bear said:

mbBear said:

6956bear said:

mbBear said:

Bearly Clad said:

I'm loving the quick jump we're getting on the '26 class and I was thinking about the reasons why that's the case this year as opposed to past years and (I could be partially or entirely off-base) I came up with several key factors:

- First is the staff in place are simply better recruiters than we've had in the past. Notably Anae is landing a bunch of hits and the Poly foundation we have with him, So'oto, Benji, Rolovich (long history and key connections in Hawaii), plus the guys on the team are playing a big role.

- The team culture has long been noted as a big selling point for lots of these guys. Wilcox, for all his faults, has been doing this for years and our recruits and players have often cited the positive team atmosphere and vibes as a huge plus that is different from many of the other schools they visited

- The transfer portal era has brought on several massive, terrain-altering shifts. Almost all teams are bringing in bigger transfer classes and smaller HS classes so players don't want to be left without a seat. In addition guys who might have been inclined to wait until closer to signing day are being counseled of the value of locking in a spot early somewhere where they're a priority. Because of the increased focus on the portal a guy holding out for a dream offer or bigger schools could leave themselves in a position where they're going in as an afterthought or luxury commit and have a hard time seeing the field early. If they don't see the field early and are forced to hit the portal not as one of the top guys then it's a dangerous place to be; there are lots of players without elite resumes who have to drop down to G5 or FCS, or are left without a scholarship offer altogether and left a degree on the table. And that's before even considering all of the guys who transfer but are forced to go somewhere without a clear role or good path to playing time. Being forced into the portal is one of the most dangerous and tenuous places to be in. It's fine if you're a top QB, OL, or edge player but I'd say that fewer than 10% of the guys who transfer end up with a big role on their new team at a P4 program

- The changing landscape of college ball also had high academic schools like UNC and (ugh.) lsju see the light and lower their academic requirements in order to facilitate football moving forward. LSJU especially has 12 commits already which likely represents the majority of their recruiting class and is a big change from the days when they wouldn't lock in most of their commits until near the end of their senior season when they got the green light from admissions

- Because of more guys taking the money-in-hand approach as opposed to holding out for something bigger and better there may end up being a lot of late flips but I think that the early focus for a lot of these guys is locking in where they're a priority and have a path to playing time rather than getting stuck as a backup horse in the stable and having to transfer without having had the chance to prove their chops on the field. Even former 5*s who transfer now aren't guaranteed the cushy landing spots in the portal based on benefit of the doubt belief in their former potential

Anyway, those are just my random Monday musings. Maybe I'm off-track, maybe I missed something, and maybe I'm just talking out my @$$ but that's how I see it.

Go Bears and let's keep it rolling! I'm waiting for more good news and more guys to welcome to the Blue & Gold!
All interesting points. But is it also way too much excitement until they are signed and sealed?
And, if people here are to be believed, or what most are rooting for: the commitments mean nothing if Wilcox is getting canned after this season.
I think these recruits are a bit smarter than many want to give them credit for. I expect Wilcox to be gone. I think the bigger issue will be around timing and the next HC choice. I think it is very likely the next HC is on the staff today.

Oregon and others are not going to quit recruiting Tommy Tofi. They just offered his younger brother (Ernie class of 2028) and very likely will target Johm Tofi as well. Cal needs to win. Wilcox is irrelevant IMO other than his buyout. Dead man walking.


I don't see that math adding up: Cal doesn't do well enough to keep Wilcox, but somehow Harsin or Rolovich does enough to impress, and excite the fan base?
They would also have to impress Rivera. Ron has an incredibly centered ego, so anything is possible, but I see him cleaning house more than promoting guys he had nothing to do with bringing in.... just my opinion, and hey, maybe the Cal offense is really something, but still end up 5-7...

Certainly possible. GMs and HCs like working with folks they chose rather than what is simply on hand. My belief though is Ron is working with these folks daily. He sees their pros and cons. Also Ron is an NFL lifer. The college game is different than the pro game. IMO the possbility of really liking someone from this staff to take over is higher once he sees them through a complete cycle. But it is possible that neither distinguish themselves as well.

Also while many see Rolo and Harsin as having more cons than pros they both have been HCs before and won games. And if the team once again has a below par season that can be attributed to Wilcox. But if they do better than expected they would get and deserve some real credit.

Now if Ron could work a deal to attract a current sitting HC that has really won a lot that could be really good. Ron will know these current staffers very well by seasons end. He may not be impressed with what he finds out. But I think both Rolo and Harsin have real interest in trying to forge a good impression and Rivera as a football person understands the role much better than a normal AD might. And certainly much better than what Knowlton would.


"Current HC that has won a lot".... he isn't getting someone from the P4 ranks?
I believe that Ron would be able to find the next Fran Brown. Among real insiders, he was THE hire...in other words, the more people here who say "who?" the better.... half kidding.
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Cal's got the Hawaii-Poly recruiting pipeline thing going strong.
Bobodeluxe
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ESPN's clowns have eight ACC teams in the top twenty five in recruiting rankings.
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