I mentioned in another post that Wilcox has been terrible with the 5th and 6th games of the season.

So I wonder if he'll end up 3-3?

Or was the Pac-12 that hard?

Justin Wilcox's history with the 5th game of the season:
2017: Loss at Oregon
2018: Loss at Arizona
2019: Loss vs. Arizona State
2021: Loss vs. Washington State
2022: Loss at Washington State
2023: Win vs. Arizona State
2024: Loss vs. Miami


Justin Wilcox's history with the 6th game of the season:
2017: Loss at Washington
2018: Loss vs. USC
2019: Loss at Oregon
2021: Loss at Oregon
2022: Loss at Colorado
2023: Loss vs. Oregon State
2024: Loss at Pittsburgh

You have painted a 3-game losing steak...you are not making me feel good about this.

Would we want gundy Napier, or Sweeney? To be honest I kinda want Mora. He's aggressive, not scared of his shadow. Honestly just someone who can win and is not named Wilcox. Bring teddy back if he's healthy

SouthKBear said:

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Would we want gundy Napier, or Sweeney? To be honest I kinda want Mora. He's aggressive, not scared of his shadow. Honestly just someone who can win and is not named Wilcox. Bring teddy back if he's healthy

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• Gundy is out of juice and based on how Oklahoma State is playing, needs a break
• Napier is limp like Wilcox, had some success in G5 but that's it
• Dabo will probably not walk away from $60 million but Rivera handing him free rein with no fans going after him would be what he wants, sans the money
• Mora is doing fine at UCONN, but at 63 is the same age as...
• Tedford, who having to quit 3 jobs over health issues already, is probably done

At this point I would take an AI coach with some sort of high energy hype guy serving as the puppet.

pingpong2 said:

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At this point I would take an AI coach with some sort of high energy hype guy serving as the puppet.

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That is coming if it isn't already here to some extent without us knowing. Playcalling assistance (where the AI suggests plays to a human decision maker) is a perfect opportunity for AI. You train the AI on the universe of playcalling and results data in college football generally, update that to give more weight to recent data, overlay your own team's results, and then add in opponents data each week. I guarantee you if you do that the AI will give you a better play call than the human coach 95% of the time. 5% of the time it may tell you to kick a field goal on first down from your own 30, but that is why the human is there.

It is coming my friend.

BearlyCareAnymore said:

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pingpong2 said:

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At this point I would take an AI coach with some sort of high energy hype guy serving as the puppet.

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That is coming if it isn't already here to some extent without us knowing. Playcalling assistance (where the AI suggests plays to a human decision maker) is a perfect opportunity for AI. You train the AI on the universe of playcalling and results data in college football generally, update that to give more weight to recent data, overlay your own team's results, and then add in opponents data each week. I guarantee you if you do that the AI will give you a better play call than the human coach 95% of the time. 5% of the time it may tell you to kick a field goal on first down from your own 30, but that is why the human is there.

It is coming my friend.

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This is something Stanfurd would probably try first, and Cal would try about 30 years later.

pingpong2 said:

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At this point I would take an AI coach with some sort of high energy hype guy serving as the puppet.

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RopeCoachAI?

Strykur said:

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pingpong2 said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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pingpong2 said:

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At this point I would take an AI coach with some sort of high energy hype guy serving as the puppet.

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That is coming if it isn't already here to some extent without us knowing. Playcalling assistance (where the AI suggests plays to a human decision maker) is a perfect opportunity for AI. You train the AI on the universe of playcalling and results data in college football generally, update that to give more weight to recent data, overlay your own team's results, and then add in opponents data each week. I guarantee you if you do that the AI will give you a better play call than the human coach 95% of the time. 5% of the time it may tell you to kick a field goal on first down from your own 30, but that is why the human is there.

It is coming my friend.

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This is something Stanfurd would probably try first, and Cal would try about 30 years later.

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So maybe by 2050 we will have moved on from Wilcox is what you're saying

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Cal will just get him a subscription to ChatGPT and a 5 year extension.

Strykur said:

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SouthKBear said:

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Would we want gundy Napier, or Sweeney? To be honest I kinda want Mora. He's aggressive, not scared of his shadow. Honestly just someone who can win and is not named Wilcox. Bring teddy back if he's healthy

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• Gundy is out of juice and based on how Oklahoma State is playing, needs a break
• Napier is limp like Wilcox, had some success in G5 but that's it
• Dabo will probably not walk away from $60 million but Rivera handing him free rein with no fans going after him would be what he wants, sans the money
• Mora is doing fine at UCONN, but at 63 is the same age as...
• Tedford, who having to quit 3 jobs over health issues already, is probably done

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Just to add on: Napier is a good recruiter and poor X's & O's coach who wouldn't fit here because we are limited in the number of guys we can recruit who are interested, we need a guy who can do more with less and maximize a team to make them greater than the sum of their parts. There's no reason to fire Wilcox midseason as we've already seen Harsin and Rolovich get their shots and neither would be an appreciable upgrade. There are also multiple openings already for next season (UC Los Angeles, LSJU, VT OkSt) as well as several big dominoes to fall (if Florida moves on from Napier there is some talk they would take a run at Kiffin which would free up Ole Miss, does Oklahoma collapse and free up a big blood position, what other schools come open which changes how things shake out based on the big names waiting to be filled before everyone else gets their shot). The fact is, just being honest, we are not a premier destination so it wouldn't mean getting a jump on the market, the only reason would be to send a message to coaches and players about our standards for acceptability.

I've said this before but the G6 coaches we should have our eyes on are Jason Eck (New Mexico) and Jon Sumrall (Tulane) but we might have to wait in queue to get our shot with them.

Also just for fun(?) I looked up Wilcox's record in 1-score games and it's 17-27 which actually looks better when you don't consider the context that his teams have routinely played down to competition and let teams into close games that they had no godly business being in (as well as the myriad blowout losses and precious few blowout wins)

okaydo said:

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I mentioned in another post that Wilcox has been terrible with the 5th and 6th games of the season.

So I wonder if he'll end up 3-3?

Or was the Pac-12 that hard?

Justin Wilcox's history with the 5th game of the season:
2017: Loss at Oregon
2018: Loss at Arizona
2019: Loss vs. Arizona State
2021: Loss vs. Washington State
2022: Loss at Washington State
2023: Win vs. Arizona State
2024: Loss vs. Miami


Justin Wilcox's history with the 6th game of the season:
2017: Loss at Washington
2018: Loss vs. USC
2019: Loss at Oregon
2021: Loss at Oregon
2022: Loss at Colorado
2023: Loss vs. Oregon State
2024: Loss at Pittsburgh

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I am more interested in how Wilcox has performed under a waxing crescent moon. That is what we now have. IMO that may have as much weight as his performance in games 5 and 6.
(That's a joke son. A joke.)
Maybe the teams we play might have more of an impact on Cal's results in games 5 and 6 ;-)

wifeisafurd said:

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okaydo said:

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I mentioned in another post that Wilcox has been terrible with the 5th and 6th games of the season.

So I wonder if he'll end up 3-3?

Or was the Pac-12 that hard?

Justin Wilcox's history with the 5th game of the season:
2017: Loss at Oregon
2018: Loss at Arizona
2019: Loss vs. Arizona State
2021: Loss vs. Washington State
2022: Loss at Washington State
2023: Win vs. Arizona State
2024: Loss vs. Miami


Justin Wilcox's history with the 6th game of the season:
2017: Loss at Washington
2018: Loss vs. USC
2019: Loss at Oregon
2021: Loss at Oregon
2022: Loss at Colorado
2023: Loss vs. Oregon State
2024: Loss at Pittsburgh

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Yikes. Some of those are understandable losses against good teams and maybe C-19 weirdness. But there are plenty games in there that Cal should have won. No bueno.

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Even that one win vs. ASU was a pretty dour affair. Cal got outgained 439 yards to 326 and won because of turnovers.

okaydo said:

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I mentioned in another post that Wilcox has been terrible with the 5th and 6th games of the season.

So I wonder if he'll end up 3-3?

Or was the Pac-12 that hard?

Justin Wilcox's history with the 5th game of the season:
2017: Loss at Oregon
2018: Loss at Arizona
2019: Loss vs. Arizona State
2021: Loss vs. Washington State
2022: Loss at Washington State
2023: Win vs. Arizona State
2024: Loss vs. Miami


Justin Wilcox's history with the 6th game of the season:
2017: Loss at Washington
2018: Loss vs. USC
2019: Loss at Oregon
2021: Loss at Oregon
2022: Loss at Colorado
2023: Loss vs. Oregon State
2024: Loss at Pittsburgh

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don't worry guys. Wilcox is cursed not to win the 6th game.