concordtom said:
It's so funny to me.
To all those who want to fire Wilcox, what makes you think that the next coach is going to produce more wins?
And, just how many wins do you need each season in order to stop calling for (whatever coach) to be fired?
Just come out and say it:
"I must win X games in order to be satisfied with Cal football.
Otherwise, I'm going to kick the cat, spit at the garbageman, and log in to BearInsider and complain."
I don't know. I have been long and loud on here that Cal needs up its support. But you have to try. I supported the Wilcox hire. I thought it was risky, but the type of profile that was Cal's best option at the time. It hasn't worked.
How many wins? Geez this is absolutely ridiculous Tom. He is 47-52 overall with a lot of his wins beating up on FCS or G5 opponents. He is 25 and 44 in conference. He has 8 losing records in conference in 8 tries. In the last 4 years we have beaten 2 FBS teams who ended the season with a winning record and that was 7-5 in each case. So my first answer is MORE THAN THAT! Frankly it is the dumbest, most idiotic, most moronic, I am running out of adjectives for absolutely stupid and brain dead asinine but that description deserves a thousand more words, to bang on people for wanting better than that. If you are okay with that then you should stop watching college football and leave it to the adults who understand that this isn't 6 year old peewee soccer. (which is what you should change your viewing habits to). Cal football lost $10M the last year finances have been reported. Cal sports lost $60M. For that price, we should expect more. He makes $5M and for that price he gets to have people call for a change when he sucks. And he sucks by any measure.
No one should have to answer your idiotic question because whether they think the answer is 13-0 and a natty every year or they think the answer is .500 in conference or they think the answer is 26-43, he hasn't made it to that level. But I will answer the question for me.
At this point I will take the equivalent of Ben Braun's first 10 years. In his first 10 years Braun finished 12-6, 8-10, 8-10, 7-9, 11-7, 12-6, 13-5, 9-9, 6-12, 12-6. Nothing spectacular. Half the time he finished with a winning record in conference. Half the time .500 or worse. He finished 2nd twice and 3rd twice (in a smaller conference). He had a .538 winning percentage in conference. We should strive for better, but basically, half of his seasons I had something reasonable to root for. Is that unreasonable for you. Because I think implying people should shut their mouths when their coach wins 36% of their conference games is pretty damned unreasonable.
Theder got fired after 4 seasons with a better conference record. Jeff Tedford got fired when he had a better conference record his last 4 years and he had a ton of good will going in. Gilby got fired after 4 years with basically the same record. Dykes got fired and he was doing better after the first year debacle. Cal hasn't exactly been demanding on their coaches. Wilcox should have been fired minimum 2 years ago.
We have played 1 good game this year. And that is on top of 8 crappy years. So my answer for Wilcox, this year. 11 wins not including a bowl game.
