Rolo to Beavers?

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YamhillBear
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Living here in Oregon, I definitely hear a lot of talk about who will coach the Beavers. Certainly it is early, so lots of names have been mentioned, but I have definitely heard Rolo mentioned more than once.

In thinking about it, I'm realizing that I haven't heard a lot about him at Cal. I mean, yeah, talk about how he's a good mentor for Sagapolutele, but not a lot of specifics on how he affects our offense. Whether he's a major part or not. Whether we'd feel a big loss or not if he were to leave (or on the other hand, whether he is part of a longer term coaching overhaul master plan...).

Any comments on the above, or in general whether we'd feel the loss if he were to go to the Beavs?
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YamhillBear said:

Living here in Oregon, I definitely hear a lot of talk about who will coach the Beavers. Certainly it is early, so lots of names have been mentioned, but I have definitely heard Rolo mentioned more than once.

In thinking about it, I'm realizing that I haven't heard a lot about him at Cal. I mean, yeah, talk about how he's a good mentor for Sagapolutele, but not a lot of specifics on how he affects our offense. Whether he's a major part or not. Whether we'd feel a big loss or not if he were to leave (or on the other hand, whether he is part of a longer term coaching overhaul master plan...).

Any comments on the above, or in general whether we'd feel the loss if he were to go to the Beavs?


I don't see much run n shoot in our offense, seems very much Harsin's.

We have the #104 offense, #93 in scoring despite playing an extremely soft schedule, so it is probably better for Rolovich to not be associated with it.
ducktilldeath
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Just stop. Zero chance. Career loser anti vaxxer's aren't on their short list.
BearoutEast67
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Who the heck wants to go to Oregon St?
Roll on you Bears!
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calumnus said:

YamhillBear said:

Living here in Oregon, I definitely hear a lot of talk about who will coach the Beavers. Certainly it is early, so lots of names have been mentioned, but I have definitely heard Rolo mentioned more than once.

In thinking about it, I'm realizing that I haven't heard a lot about him at Cal. I mean, yeah, talk about how he's a good mentor for Sagapolutele, but not a lot of specifics on how he affects our offense. Whether he's a major part or not. Whether we'd feel a big loss or not if he were to leave (or on the other hand, whether he is part of a longer term coaching overhaul master plan...).

Any comments on the above, or in general whether we'd feel the loss if he were to go to the Beavs?


I don't see much run n shoot in our offense, seems very much Harsin's.

We have the #104 offense, #93 in scoring despite playing an extremely soft schedule, so it is probably better for Rolovich to not be associated with it.

Head jobs suddenly a bee hive of activity. OSU, CSU, UF, no doubt FSU, UCLA, who have I missed?

The USF coach will suddenly be a very rich man. Will Harsin be in the mix/does he want to take another shot at a head job? Rolo? Can't imagine a CO school would want him. Or, Oregon, for that matter.

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Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

YamhillBear said:

Living here in Oregon, I definitely hear a lot of talk about who will coach the Beavers. Certainly it is early, so lots of names have been mentioned, but I have definitely heard Rolo mentioned more than once.

In thinking about it, I'm realizing that I haven't heard a lot about him at Cal. I mean, yeah, talk about how he's a good mentor for Sagapolutele, but not a lot of specifics on how he affects our offense. Whether he's a major part or not. Whether we'd feel a big loss or not if he were to leave (or on the other hand, whether he is part of a longer term coaching overhaul master plan...).

Any comments on the above, or in general whether we'd feel the loss if he were to go to the Beavs?


I don't see much run n shoot in our offense, seems very much Harsin's.

We have the #104 offense, #93 in scoring despite playing an extremely soft schedule, so it is probably better for Rolovich to not be associated with it.

Head jobs suddenly a bee hive of activity. OSU, CSU, UF, no doubt FSU, UCLA, who have I missed?

The USF coach will suddenly be a very rich man. Will Harsin be in the mix/does he want to take another shot at a head job? Rolo? Can't imagine a CO school would want him. Or, Oregon, for that matter.




If that's the case, then it is to our advantage...
82gradDLSdad
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Regarding Rolo...I have attended every home game this year and admit to having a weird penchant for using binoculars to check out the sidelines. Rolo has been down there with the play sheet and headset every game until the UNC game. He also had been talking to JKS after every series. Not last game. I was hoping to see someone commenting on this but haven't. This thread is the first reference to him. It seems like something may be up....or not. Maybe he was just up in the booth with Harsin.
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82gradDLSdad said:

Regarding Rolo...I have attended every home game this year and admit to having a weird penchant for using binoculars to check out the sidelines. Rolo has been down there with the play sheet and headset every game until the UNC game. He also had been talking to JKS after every series. Not last game. I was hoping to see someone commenting on this but haven't. This thread is the first reference to him. It seems like something may be up....or not. Maybe he was just up in the booth with Harsin.

I happened to see him on the sideline on TV, so he wasn't up in the booth.
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Cal's offense is mediocre (to put it generously). Not sure why either Harsin or Rolo would be thought of as HC candidates anywhere coming off of this.

I strongly suspect (call it an educated guess) that JKS will be back next year and keeping Rolo is a big part of that.
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BearlyCareAnymore said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Regarding Rolo...I have attended every home game this year and admit to having a weird penchant for using binoculars to check out the sidelines. Rolo has been down there with the play sheet and headset every game until the UNC game. He also had been talking to JKS after every series. Not last game. I was hoping to see someone commenting on this but haven't. This thread is the first reference to him. It seems like something may be up....or not. Maybe he was just up in the booth with Harsin.

I happened to see him on the sideline on TV, so he wasn't up in the booth.


Well that's good to know. He's pretty easy to spot even up in the stands: short hair, graying, etc. I didn't even see anyone near JKS talking to him while he struggled. I have thought that was a pretty important task for a coach/mentor to have with a freshman QB. Oh well, thanks.
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82gradDLSdad said:

BearlyCareAnymore said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Regarding Rolo...I have attended every home game this year and admit to having a weird penchant for using binoculars to check out the sidelines. Rolo has been down there with the play sheet and headset every game until the UNC game. He also had been talking to JKS after every series. Not last game. I was hoping to see someone commenting on this but haven't. This thread is the first reference to him. It seems like something may be up....or not. Maybe he was just up in the booth with Harsin.

I happened to see him on the sideline on TV, so he wasn't up in the booth.


Well that's good to know. He's pretty easy to spot even up in the stands: short hair, graying, etc. I didn't even see anyone near JKS talking to him while he struggled. I have thought that was a pretty important task for a coach/mentor to have with a freshman QB. Oh well, thanks.

Maybe he asked to be left alone.
82gradDLSdad
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Rushinbear said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearlyCareAnymore said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Regarding Rolo...I have attended every home game this year and admit to having a weird penchant for using binoculars to check out the sidelines. Rolo has been down there with the play sheet and headset every game until the UNC game. He also had been talking to JKS after every series. Not last game. I was hoping to see someone commenting on this but haven't. This thread is the first reference to him. It seems like something may be up....or not. Maybe he was just up in the booth with Harsin.

I happened to see him on the sideline on TV, so he wasn't up in the booth.


Well that's good to know. He's pretty easy to spot even up in the stands: short hair, graying, etc. I didn't even see anyone near JKS talking to him while he struggled. I have thought that was a pretty important task for a coach/mentor to have with a freshman QB. Oh well, thanks.

Maybe he asked to be left alone.


Maybe. But all the coaches appear to be on or around the sidelines. I looked a lot for him and never once saw him. I'll admit I get sidetracked watching Wilcox's odd body language. It is fascinatingly strange to me. I'd like to blame my seizures for this oddball fascination but I've loved coaching videos as much as the actual game my entire life.
calumnus
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Rushinbear said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearlyCareAnymore said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Regarding Rolo...I have attended every home game this year and admit to having a weird penchant for using binoculars to check out the sidelines. Rolo has been down there with the play sheet and headset every game until the UNC game. He also had been talking to JKS after every series. Not last game. I was hoping to see someone commenting on this but haven't. This thread is the first reference to him. It seems like something may be up....or not. Maybe he was just up in the booth with Harsin.

I happened to see him on the sideline on TV, so he wasn't up in the booth.


Well that's good to know. He's pretty easy to spot even up in the stands: short hair, graying, etc. I didn't even see anyone near JKS talking to him while he struggled. I have thought that was a pretty important task for a coach/mentor to have with a freshman QB. Oh well, thanks.

Maybe he asked to be left alone.


Maybe, but that would not be an endorsement for Harsin and Rolo as game day coaches, motivators and "QB whisperers." Many are saying "Harsin/Rolo is critical to keeping JKS." Hopefully not. I'd like to bring in an offensive staff that can recruit P4 (4 star) players to Berkeley so Sagapolutele has a running game to keep the heat off and has some big, fast receivers with great hands to throw to.
alarsuel
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calumnus said:

Rushinbear said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearlyCareAnymore said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Regarding Rolo...I have attended every home game this year and admit to having a weird penchant for using binoculars to check out the sidelines. Rolo has been down there with the play sheet and headset every game until the UNC game. He also had been talking to JKS after every series. Not last game. I was hoping to see someone commenting on this but haven't. This thread is the first reference to him. It seems like something may be up....or not. Maybe he was just up in the booth with Harsin.

I happened to see him on the sideline on TV, so he wasn't up in the booth.


Well that's good to know. He's pretty easy to spot even up in the stands: short hair, graying, etc. I didn't even see anyone near JKS talking to him while he struggled. I have thought that was a pretty important task for a coach/mentor to have with a freshman QB. Oh well, thanks.

Maybe he asked to be left alone.


Maybe, but that would not be an endorsement for Harsin and Rolo as game day coaches, motivators and "QB whisperers." Many are saying "Harsin/Rolo is critical to keeping JKS." Hopefully not. I'd like to bring in an offensive staff that can recruit P4 (4 star) players to Berkeley so Sagapolutele has a running game to keep the heat off and has some big, fast receivers with great hands to throw to.



Rolo, yes. Harsin, no.
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I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.
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BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!
Shocky1
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shocky wuz on the field with reese during the game & fist bumped rolo as he ran towards the tunnel
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ducktilldeath said:

BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!


Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such duck fan. Why wait a year making $1,000,000 and get a $30,000,000 contract when you can get a $15,000,000 contract and fizzle out at OSU!
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oski003 said:

ducktilldeath said:

BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!


Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such duck fan. Why wait a year making $1,000,000 and get a $30,000,000 contract when you can get a $15,000,000 contract and fizzle out at OSU!



If Cal pays the buyout so they can give $30M to a coach with a losing record it's time for torches and pitchforks
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oski003 said:

ducktilldeath said:

BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!


Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such duck fan. Why wait a year making $1,000,000 and get a $30,000,000 contract when you can get a $15,000,000 contract and fizzle out at OSU!


Wait, we are paying Rolovich $1,000,000 a year??!! For what? "Analysis"? Was that another Knowlton decision?
Cal88
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Rolovich doesn't have a losing record, he did very well at Hawaii, enough so to get hired by WSU, and had a turbulent short stint at WSU due to covid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Rolovich#Coaching_career

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Cal88 said:

Rolovich doesn't have a losing record, he did very well at Hawaii, enough so to get hired by WSU, and had a turbulent short stint at WSU due to covid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Rolovich#Coaching_career



He is 33-33 as a head coach. 28-27 at Hawaii and 5-6 at WSU.

The Run n Shoot was innovative when we tried it under Theder in 1981, 44 years ago.

He was a good QB out of JC and at Hawaii, but is far from a genius. His antivax stance got him fired at WSU. He was also sued by a black player for pulling his scholarship due to his Black Lives Matter and NIL activism. A guy who was not a good fit in Pullman, WA is probably not getting hired in Corvallis and is an even worse fit for Berkeley, but he is a far better fit than Harsin, who some other people on this board seem to love despite a similar past and our current bottom ranked offense after he chased off our best recruiting coaches and their skill players and replaced them much lower ranked guys from FCS and G5.

We have a Super Bowl head coach on staff. Rivera should be Cal's head coach and he should hire a young, innovative, successful OC that can recruit to Berkeley and can take over as HC in a few years when we have finished paying off Wilcox and his friends.
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Looking at overall records while ignoring trends is misleading.

Rolovich at Hawaii:

Hawaii Rainbow W. 2 years prior to him getting hired:
4-9
3-10

Hawaii in the four years under Rolo:
7-7
3-9
8-6 2nd in MWC
10-5 1st in MWC with a bowl win over BYU

That is an excellent coaching performance.

His performance at WSU is inconclusive due to the small sample size and peripheral issues.

He is a Bay Area guy, from Novato, Marin Catholic High QB, same as Goff, CCSF JC national champ as a QB.
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Cal88 said:

Rolovich doesn't have a losing record, he did very well at Hawaii, enough so to get hired by WSU, and had a turbulent short stint at WSU due to covid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Rolovich#Coaching_career



Sorry. .500 record. Point still stands.

And has anyone seen anything in the offense this year that makes them want to take one of our offensive coaches and make them head coach?
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Cal88 said:

Looking at overall records while ignoring trends is misleading.

Rolovich at Hawaii:

Hawaii Rainbow W. 2 years prior to him getting hired:
4-9
3-10

Hawaii in the four years under Rolo:
7-7
3-9
8-6 2nd in MWC
10-5 1st in MWC with a bowl win over BYU

That is an excellent coaching performance.

His performance at WSU is inconclusive due to the small sample size and peripheral issues.

He is a Bay Area guy, from Novato, Marin Catholic High QB, same as Goff, CCSF JC national champ as a QB.

He was not 1st in the MWC or 2nd in the MWC. He went 5-3 both years. In 2018 he was tied for 2nd in the MWC West Division of the conference which is a 6 team division and the Mountain Division was better. He was tied for 4th in the 12 team conference. In 2019 he was tied for first in the West when the conference was even more dominated by the Mountain Division. That was again equivalent to tied for 4th in the Mountain West Conference. He has a 19-22 record in conference. He runs a massively outdated offense that sorta worked in Hawaii and his defenses were terrible. It would be Dykes but not nearly as good. I could see giving him a shot at OC, though it wouldn't be my preference. He's been on the shelf for 4 years and got a consulting job with us.

I couldn't care less where he went to High School.

Pitchforks...Torches.
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calumnus said:

oski003 said:

ducktilldeath said:

BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!


Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such duck fan. Why wait a year making $1,000,000 and get a $30,000,000 contract when you can get a $15,000,000 contract and fizzle out at OSU!


Wait, we are paying Rolovich $1,000,000 a year??!! For what? "Analysis"? Was that another Knowlton decision?

No, the discussion is about what he can do NEXT year.
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BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Lord knows that couch for two years and 1 year as the OC for the Seattle Seadragons is better than a head coach job for OSU.
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oski003 said:

calumnus said:

oski003 said:

ducktilldeath said:

BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!


Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such duck fan. Why wait a year making $1,000,000 and get a $30,000,000 contract when you can get a $15,000,000 contract and fizzle out at OSU!


Wait, we are paying Rolovich $1,000,000 a year??!! For what? "Analysis"? Was that another Knowlton decision?

No, the discussion is about what he can do NEXT year.

What did he do last year? Isn't that the best reference for what he can do next year unless his buddy Wilcox is giving him another handout of our money?
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calumnus said:

oski003 said:

calumnus said:

oski003 said:

ducktilldeath said:

BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!


Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such duck fan. Why wait a year making $1,000,000 and get a $30,000,000 contract when you can get a $15,000,000 contract and fizzle out at OSU!


Wait, we are paying Rolovich $1,000,000 a year??!! For what? "Analysis"? Was that another Knowlton decision?

No, the discussion is about what he can do NEXT year.

What did he do last year? Isn't that the best reference for what he can do next year unless his buddy Wilcox is giving him another handout of our money?

He was going to be OC for the Seattle Seadragons, but they folded before the season started, so nothing. Which is what he did in 2022 and 2023. But, yeah, if OSU offers him a head coaching job he's going to refuse it.
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calumnus said:

oski003 said:

calumnus said:

oski003 said:

ducktilldeath said:

BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!


Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such duck fan. Why wait a year making $1,000,000 and get a $30,000,000 contract when you can get a $15,000,000 contract and fizzle out at OSU!


Wait, we are paying Rolovich $1,000,000 a year??!! For what? "Analysis"? Was that another Knowlton decision?

No, the discussion is about what he can do NEXT year.

What did he do last year? Isn't that the best reference for what he can do next year unless his buddy Wilcox is giving him another handout of our money?


I guess you are saying no team would pay him $1m to be their OC next season. We can agree to disagree.
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oski003 said:

calumnus said:

oski003 said:

calumnus said:

oski003 said:

ducktilldeath said:

BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!


Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such duck fan. Why wait a year making $1,000,000 and get a $30,000,000 contract when you can get a $15,000,000 contract and fizzle out at OSU!


Wait, we are paying Rolovich $1,000,000 a year??!! For what? "Analysis"? Was that another Knowlton decision?

No, the discussion is about what he can do NEXT year.

What did he do last year? Isn't that the best reference for what he can do next year unless his buddy Wilcox is giving him another handout of our money?


I guess you are saying no team would pay him $1m to be their OC next season. We can agree to disagree.

Why didn't anyone do that for the last four seasons?
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BearlyCareAnymore said:

oski003 said:

calumnus said:

oski003 said:

calumnus said:

oski003 said:

ducktilldeath said:

BearGoggles said:

I think Rolo is smart enough not to take the job at Oregon State. I think he'll have better opportunities even if that is just a coordinator position - possibly at Cal.

Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such CAL fan. Why get a $15,000,000 contract when you can be an analyst at CAL!


Hilarious, ignorant, arrogant. Such duck fan. Why wait a year making $1,000,000 and get a $30,000,000 contract when you can get a $15,000,000 contract and fizzle out at OSU!


Wait, we are paying Rolovich $1,000,000 a year??!! For what? "Analysis"? Was that another Knowlton decision?

No, the discussion is about what he can do NEXT year.

What did he do last year? Isn't that the best reference for what he can do next year unless his buddy Wilcox is giving him another handout of our money?


I guess you are saying no team would pay him $1m to be their OC next season. We can agree to disagree.

Why didn't anyone do that for the last four seasons?


Similar reasons why Sonny Dykes was a consultant for Texas Tech.
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BearlyCareAnymore said:

Cal88 said:

Rolovich doesn't have a losing record, he did very well at Hawaii, enough so to get hired by WSU, and had a turbulent short stint at WSU due to covid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Rolovich#Coaching_career



Sorry. .500 record. Point still stands.

And has anyone seen anything in the offense this year that makes them want to take one of our offensive coaches and make them head coach?



That is a .509 record:

Hawaii in the four years under Rolo:
7-7
3-9
8-6 2nd in MWC-W
10-5 1st in MWC-W with a bowl win over BYU

He was 28-27 at Hawaii, but once again the overall record doesn't reflect the upwards trend.

The offense this year has arguably the least talented RBs and WRs group in a decade plus at Cal, and a passable OL. QB is a top talent, but with zero experience.
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Cal88 said:

BearlyCareAnymore said:

Cal88 said:

Rolovich doesn't have a losing record, he did very well at Hawaii, enough so to get hired by WSU, and had a turbulent short stint at WSU due to covid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Rolovich#Coaching_career



Sorry. .500 record. Point still stands.

And has anyone seen anything in the offense this year that makes them want to take one of our offensive coaches and make them head coach?



That is a .509 record:

Hawaii in the four years under Rolo:
7-7
3-9
8-6 2nd in MWC-W
10-5 1st in MWC-W with a bowl win over BYU

He was 28-27 at Hawaii, but once again the overall record doesn't reflect the upwards trend.

The offense this year has arguably the least talented RBs and WRs group in a decade plus at Cal, and a passable OL. QB is a top talent, but with zero experience.

As much as you don't want it to, his record at WSU counts. He is 33-33 with a losing record in conference. But okay. 28-27 record. Point still stands. Wasn't he brought in to make that top talent QB better. From the article you posted on the other thread:

Quote:

Cal freshman quarterback Jaron-Keawe Sagapolutele has not been as effective lately as he was in the first three games. He completed 67% of his passes with six touchdown passes and just one interception in the first three games. In the four games since then, Sagapolutele has completed 56.3% of his passes with four touchdowns and six interceptions

Bang up job there.

And besides, I don't want a guy you need to make excuses for. When you have to say he'd be really good if if if if if, that doesn't fly. I want a guy who has proven it on the level he has coached. And 5-3 in conference as the pinnacle in 6 years of coaching isn't it.

If he is so awesome, why did nobody want him for 3 years until Cal wanted him but only for a consulting job.

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ducktilldeath said:

Just stop. Zero chance. Career loser anti vaxxer's aren't on their short list.

Do you think Oregon State cares about Rolo's Covid vaccine status as much as you?
 
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