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calumnus said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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You've clearly blacked out the Holmoe years, but it's the worst I've seen in at least a decade.

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When we faced Top 10 schedules, used to beat USC and UCLA and sent great players to the NFL?

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TBF, $C and UCLA were not good then., either.

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Holmoe was horrible, but he recruited better than Wilcox and played much tougher schedules in a much tougher conference. He lost to a Rose Bowl Stanford team. Wilcox loses to the worst Stanford team in decades. Taking strength of schedule into account, Holmoe's teams were better rated than Wilcox's have been, but why debate? Neither coach should have been extended after their initial contracts.

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lmao wilcox has given up. we are marching down the field for once. and hes there shaking his head

god i cant stand his loser attitude.

the kids are still fighting and hes checked out

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He knows he is maybe walking off the field without a job tomorrow

so pissed on our players behalf. this loser with his loser attitude is just standing there shaking his head even though we got 4 first downs. the players deserve so much better

how about do some coaching

No OL, no WR separation, No running game

No BUENO

my guy sacked himself..you have to throw that now...you can't juke out of it

This is joke, if Furd really wanted to they could double-team DeJesus and shut the offense down

drive home safely... Go AC Milan tomorrow.

Sorry but I think we just lost JKS.

Just my opinion

Nofado said:

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Sorry but I think we just lost JKS.

Just my opinion

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He stays if Ron commits to having him involved in the coaching hire

This is amazing. Stanford is so awful even I didn't see this coming.

Even 003 is going to finally decide it is acceptable to want a change.

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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you fire him TONIGHT. in the next hour

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I fire him 4 years ago.

Ben Braun wins this game.

How can he possibly stay now?

My friend who went to Florida just texted "We're only losing 11 to 31 now. one point better than Cal."

10 points against this garbage defense is a complete embarrassment.

Nofado said:

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Sorry but I think we just lost JKS.

Just my opinion

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Sorry, but that would be a big loss but just not as big as people have made it out to be.

ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

Nofado said:

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Sorry but I think we just lost JKS.

Just my opinion

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We lost him well before this game. As soon as he starting throwing primarily to DeJesus a few games back, he knew he had to gtfo.

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Anarchistbear said:

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This is like playing ourselves

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No, as hard as it is to believe, they are much worse. Sagapolutele will beat them. It's like a hoop team that can't make 3's….they get behind and they can't catch up. We get a lead, Furd is f@ucked.

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Wow, you really know how to prognosticate in multiple fields. I thought your predictive brilliance was limited to politics.

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My friend who went to Florida just texted "We're only losing 11 to 31 now. one point better than Cal."

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Tennessee is good but Florida went out of their way to be blasted at home by the Vols for the first time in decades

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10 points against this garbage defense is a complete embarrassment.

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Negative four points

Nope go to a power team that just needs to fill that position. Indiana could be his next stop for all we know.

After we lose to SMU Wilcox will have clinched his 9th consecutive losing conference season. Absolutely pathetic accomplishment, especially given the schedule

This GM crap on the sidelines is stupid.

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Nofado said:

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Sorry but I think we just lost JKS.

Just my opinion

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Sorry, but that would be a big loss but just not as big as people have made it out to be.

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Whatever happens with JKS, he wasn't going to be around for more than another 2 years at best. Cal needs to make the program healthy for the long term, and that is about more than just one player.

There is no time to REBUILD or BUILD in the era of NIL. Unless we go full SMU and overspend it's not happening.

cal83dls79 said:

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This GM crap on the sidelines is stupid.

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Ron is next to Wilcox if you haven't noticed, although that seems appropriate right

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After we lose to SMU Wilcox will have clinched his 9th consecutive losing conference season. Absolutely pathetic accomplishment, especially given the schedule

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Yeah, but what if we keep Wilcox and we go 13-0 next year. What'll you say then huh? Huh? Huh?

Free board people are so damned impatient

I'm being sarcastic for anyone too upset to tell.

cal83dls79 said:

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This GM crap on the sidelines is stupid.

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At least their GM is hyping up the team and playing to the emotions of the big game.

Cal has no fire. They have no way of creating momentum and they have no way of seizing it when they get it. When the other team gets momentum Cal just curls up in a ball and quits.

That's how we lost vs San Diego State. That's how we lost vs Duke. That's how we lost vs Virginia Tech. That's how we are about to lose vs Stanford.

One thing goes wrong then it all goes wrong and our coaching staff does nothing to prevent it.

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There is no time to REBUILD or BUILD in the era of NIL. Unless we go full SMU and overspend it's not happening.

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With JKS a build is relatively easy, lose him and we're hosed unless Devin Brown can do some stuff, which I am sure he can but not program-changing like JKS

philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

Nofado said:

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There is no time to REBUILD or BUILD in the era of NIL. Unless we go full SMU and overspend it's not happening.

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The best case for building will be if we get a new coach who attracts good recruits, through the portal or otherwise.

I would argue that our OL has to be completely rebuilt. We need 3 WR at least.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cade is gone as well.

calumnus said:

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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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Forget Harsin for a second, he was limited but our offense has sucked for 9 years, with the exception of 2023 Spavital Bear Raid, and who hires the OCs?

Strykur said:

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Nofado said:

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There is no time to REBUILD or BUILD in the era of NIL. Unless we go full SMU and overspend it's not happening.

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With JKS a build is relatively easy, lose him and we're hosed unless Devin Brown can do some stuff, which I am sure he can but not program-changing like JKS

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i would love to have JKS for the new coach to build off of. he is amazing

but if keeping him means keeping wilcox too. then its not worth it. thats what we are saying