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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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I'm pretty sure philly was being facetious/sarcastic.

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Anarchistbear said:

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This is like playing ourselves

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No, as hard as it is to believe, they are much worse. Sagapolutele will beat them. It's like a hoop team that can't make 3's….they get behind and they can't catch up. We get a lead, Furd is f@ucked.

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Wow, you really know how to prognosticate in multiple fields. I thought your predictive brilliance was limited to politics.

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I am disciple of the Greg Papa school of delusional positivity even under hopeless circumstances.

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I would argue that our OL has to be completely rebuilt. We need 3 WR at least.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cade is gone as well.

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Absolutely everything needs to be rebuilt. The defense isn't good either. People mistake better than the offense with good.

calumnus said:

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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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Our offensive line looks horrendous!
Either that or Stanford has a bunch of pros on their D line.
Run blocking pathetic.

I don't understand why Saga never threw deep in this game. That's on Harsin from where I sit. Where was the Grizzel down the sideline pass?

Maybe Stanford stole all our play calling.

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Strykur said:

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There is no time to REBUILD or BUILD in the era of NIL. Unless we go full SMU and overspend it's not happening.

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With JKS a build is relatively easy, lose him and we're hosed unless Devin Brown can do some stuff, which I am sure he can but not program-changing like JKS

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i would love to have JKS for the new coach to build off of. he is amazing

but if keeping him means keeping wilcox too. then its not worth it. thats what we are saying

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Wilcox is gone, that is not the question around here

JKS will have his pick of places if he enters the portal

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This is amazing. Stanford is so awful even I didn't see this coming.

Even 003 is going to finally decide it is acceptable to want a change.

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I don't follow anything Stanford on Twitter...but my Twitter algorithm got filled with Stanford stuff this past week. And it just seemed that they were oddly more excited for this game for a team that was going to lose.

concordtom said:

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calumnus said:

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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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Maybe Stanford stole all our play calling.

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They definitely knew we would fumble twice for defensive TDs

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JKS will have his pick of places if he enters the portal

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If he enters he is the #1 QB and not even close

PS: I am DISGUSTED with all of Cal's penalties!!!!!!!!!

Why is JKS still out there? Do we really want to risk him getting injured for no reason?

If leaving JKS in there to take licks at this point isn't a firing offense, I don't know what is.

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If leaving JKS in there to take licks at this point isn't a firing offense, I don't know what is.

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He wants to play it out, so let him

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calumnus said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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You've clearly blacked out the Holmoe years, but it's the worst I've seen in at least a decade.

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When we faced Top 10 schedules, used to beat USC and UCLA and sent great players to the NFL?

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TBF, $C and UCLA were not good then., either.

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Holmoe was horrible, but he recruited better than Wilcox and played much tougher schedules in a much tougher conference. He lost to a Rose Bowl Stanford team. Wilcox loses to the worst Stanford team in decades. Taking strength of schedule into account, Holmoe's teams were better rated than Wilcox's have been, but why debate? Neither coach should have been extended after their initial contracts.

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I'll agree on that point.

I remember great players (Deltha O'Neal in particular), but I remember some awful games.

To be fair, I seem to remember that he coached for something like $100,000 a year - paltry even by the standards of the day.

My point exactly... find a school that needs a Plug and Play QB.

He'll land on his feet just fine. We will be left in less than mediocrity for the next decade. I don't think a coaching change changes anything. Cal hasn't been a football school since Tedford.

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concordtom said:

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calumnus said:

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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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Maybe Stanford stole all our play calling.

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They definitely knew we would fumble twice for defensive TDs

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Hahaha.
True. How did they do that?

If DeJesus was half a foot taller, he would have a good career in the pros coming, but this is probably it for him

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Nofado said:

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We are going to lose JKS due to this game

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Don't kid yourself. We were never keeping him. No reason to stay at a school that doesn't take football seriously when you are a QB that has shown you have some talent. Go to a good school that can block for you, has a running game, and receivers that catch.

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^^^ This

Strykur said:

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calumnus said:

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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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Forget Harsin for a second, he was limited but our offense has sucked for 9 years, with the exception of 2023 Spavital Bear Raid, and who hires the OCs?

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I was against hiring Wilcox and against extending Wilcox "for COVID." No one suspects me of being pro-Wilcox, but anyone who recommends Harsin after what he did to our offense which is now the worst of Wilcox's bad offenses despite having arguably his best QB is not paying attention.

ducktilldeath said:

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calumnus said:

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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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I'm pretty sure philly was being facetious/sarcastic.

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He has been pumping Harsin as OC and then as HC all year.

Get off the fn field luck

calumnus said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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calumnus said:

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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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I'm pretty sure philly was being facetious/sarcastic.

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He has been pumping Harsin as OC and then as HC all year.

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If Harsin was interim after the San Diego State or Duke game, the offense probably looks a little different, but we all know how Wilcox likes to run things

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Wilcox has more issues with the buttons controlling his headset than any coach I have seen. He is always fumbling with the controls on his side. Anyone else notice this?

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Last season. He's got more motions going on than Newsom. There some neurotic actions going on with him. Pulls notepad and pen out 30 times a game...writes 10 notes.

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This is amazing. Stanford is so awful even I didn't see this coming.

Even 003 is going to finally decide it is acceptable to want a change.

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Lmfao.

Fastest handshake from Wilcox I have ever seen, probably his last too

calumnus said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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calumnus said:

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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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I'm pretty sure philly was being facetious/sarcastic.

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He has been pumping Harsin as OC and then as HC all year.

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Oh.

Ew.

Nofado said:

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My point exactly... find a school that needs a Plug and Play QB.

He'll land on his feet just fine. We will be left in less than mediocrity for the next decade. I don't think a coaching change changes anything. Cal hasn't been a football school since Tedford.

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Indiana was far worse than us 2 years ago. It can be done if desired. It's not easy, but can be done.

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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Strykur said:

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Nofado said:

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There is no time to REBUILD or BUILD in the era of NIL. Unless we go full SMU and overspend it's not happening.

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With JKS a build is relatively easy, lose him and we're hosed unless Devin Brown can do some stuff, which I am sure he can but not program-changing like JKS

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i would love to have JKS for the new coach to build off of. he is amazing

but if keeping him means keeping wilcox too. then its not worth it. thats what we are saying

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Wilcox is gone, that is not the question around here

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After this, I don't see how we turn around and compete against SMU, but who knows?

I have no insider knowledge, but I think Rivera knows not much would be gained by firing him tonight or this week.

My guess is that he waits to see how SMU goes.
- If they win, they probably wait until after the Bowl Game.
- If we end at 6-6 without the axe, my guess is they announce he's gone after SMU and have Harsin as interim for the Bowl Game.

I agree that this is it for Wilcox.

SoFlaBear said:

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Strykur said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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Strykur said:

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Nofado said:

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There is no time to REBUILD or BUILD in the era of NIL. Unless we go full SMU and overspend it's not happening.

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With JKS a build is relatively easy, lose him and we're hosed unless Devin Brown can do some stuff, which I am sure he can but not program-changing like JKS

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i would love to have JKS for the new coach to build off of. he is amazing

but if keeping him means keeping wilcox too. then its not worth it. thats what we are saying

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Wilcox is gone, that is not the question around here

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After this, I don't see how we turn around and compete against SMU, but who knows?

I have no insider knowledge, but I think Rivera knows not much would be gained by firing him tonight or this week.

My guess is that he waits to see how SMU goes.
- If they win, they probably wait until after the Bowl Game.
- If we end at 6-6 without the axe, my guess is they announce he's gone after SMU and have Harsin as interim for the Bowl Game.

I agree that this is it for Wilcox.

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Can you like get the **** out of here, we are getting blasted next Saturday

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Where was the Grizzel down the sideline pass?

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Oh, there it is, with 1:19 left!

$100,000 fine for storming the field.

Strykur said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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Strykur said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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Strykur said:

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Nofado said:

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There is no time to REBUILD or BUILD in the era of NIL. Unless we go full SMU and overspend it's not happening.

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With JKS a build is relatively easy, lose him and we're hosed unless Devin Brown can do some stuff, which I am sure he can but not program-changing like JKS

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i would love to have JKS for the new coach to build off of. he is amazing

but if keeping him means keeping wilcox too. then its not worth it. thats what we are saying

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Wilcox is gone, that is not the question around here

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After this, I don't see how we turn around and compete against SMU, but who knows?

I have no insider knowledge, but I think Rivera knows not much would be gained by firing him tonight or this week.

My guess is that he waits to see how SMU goes.
- If they win, they probably wait until after the Bowl Game.
- If we end at 6-6 without the axe, my guess is they announce he's gone after SMU and have Harsin as interim for the Bowl Game.

I agree that this is it for Wilcox.

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Can you like get the **** out of here, we are getting blasted next Saturday

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Game time?
If early, weather should be nice.
If late, get drunk in the stadium club and wander out into the streets for a Bezerkeley night!

Well, you said "blasted".

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$100,000 fine for storming the field.

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The ACC doesn't have fines for field stormings because ACC programs don't pack 100,000+ people into massive stadiums like down South where field storms are a serious deal

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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This is amazing. Stanford is so awful even I didn't see this coming.

Even 003 is going to finally decide it is acceptable to want a change.

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Lmfao.

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Yeah, it looks my two mid game predictions were tragically wrong.

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philly1121 said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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philly1121 said:

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sycasey said:

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Well, at least this will put the nail in Wilcox's coffin.

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Really? Wilcox is the Rasputin of college football.

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I don't think the donors will stand for a loss to Furd, especially THIS Furd team, and especially while playing a sloppy game like this. He's gotta be gone.

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The donors? Who are they and how much do they give? I mean, if Calumnus is correct, there are no "whale donors". And if they've tolerated this for 8+ years, whats one loss to Stanfurd? I mean, I agree with you but, there's no one game that's gonna decide this. Especially since Rivera is on the sidelines "observing" Wilcox in action. Thank God he's there. lol

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It's pretty obvious that the donor base was getting frustrated, given that Knowlton was pushed out and Rivera given full control after a revolt by the donors. So yes, we have donors with influence.

It's not just one game. Are you familiar with what the term "nail in the coffin" means? How about "last straw"? Heard of that one? That's what I'm talking about here.

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Ok. So when do they pull the trigger? Before the meaningless bowl game or after?

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You can't fire a coach after a bowl game, who are you going to get at that point? And there's no runway for whoever is hired to do anything in the portal.

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Bryan Harsin. haven't you been paying attention? He's got that Boise State pedigree. That's why we hired him.

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Blew up Auburn's offense, blew up our offense. #111 offense going into this game where we have scored 10 against a horrible Stanford team. Only Stanford was a worse rushing offense in FBS and they look 100% better than us.

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And? Who's gonna come coach for us? Who is going to be willing to coach amidst the indifference that is Cal?