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SouthKBear said:

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tosh brings recruits, or stein from Oregon. Gives JKS a reason to stay since he obuviously like what he saw (or maybe the exposure and 500k uniforms they have).

I actually like Jim Mora. Worked on the west coast, now knows the east ish. He's direct and doesn't take BS. His interviews are entertaining. I like the "shut off your phone" one and where he walked out. Like a diff version of Mike leech.

Desean would bring some really talented WR hopefuls. Might see his career and want to play. He'll probability b the HC and WR coach. Would cost less due to not proven much as a HC. Very risky but could pay off. San Diego state coach seems like a cheaper hire too. And I'm sure he wants out of the Pac whatever they call themselves know, even before he's actually in there.

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His Wilcoxian record at Kent State:

2-10
7-6
3-1
7-7
5-7

At SDSU he is
3-9 and 9-2 . Ya he whopped our ass but he also got some questionable losses this year as well.

People are critiquing Tosh's record in the other thread and being so harsh, and then we suggest Sean Lewis? My god why don't we put the nail in the coffin

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Two things for your dumb ass:

1. Kent State, Kent ****ing State, is a program with an all-time win-loss percentage of .379(!!!), just getting that program to a bowl game is huge accomplishment, and for the last 2 seasons since he has left they are 1-23

2. In his 2nd year in San Diego he produced a team that wiped us out by 34 points

I would put him below Tosh on the list, but get real here, he would be an upgrade over Wilcox just on what he did to us 8 weeks ago

Strykur said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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SouthKBear said:

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tosh brings recruits, or stein from Oregon. Gives JKS a reason to stay since he obuviously like what he saw (or maybe the exposure and 500k uniforms they have).

I actually like Jim Mora. Worked on the west coast, now knows the east ish. He's direct and doesn't take BS. His interviews are entertaining. I like the "shut off your phone" one and where he walked out. Like a diff version of Mike leech.

Desean would bring some really talented WR hopefuls. Might see his career and want to play. He'll probability b the HC and WR coach. Would cost less due to not proven much as a HC. Very risky but could pay off. San Diego state coach seems like a cheaper hire too. And I'm sure he wants out of the Pac whatever they call themselves know, even before he's actually in there.

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His Wilcoxian record at Kent State:

2-10
7-6
3-1
7-7
5-7

At SDSU he is
3-9 and 9-2 . Ya he whopped our ass but he also got some questionable losses this year as well.

People are critiquing Tosh's record in the other thread and being so harsh, and then we suggest Sean Lewis? My god why don't we put the nail in the coffin

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Two things for your dumb ass:

1. Kent State, Kent ****ing State, is a program with an all-time win-loss percentage of .379(!!!), just getting that program to a bowl game is huge accomplishment, and for the last 2 seasons since he has left they are 1-23

2. In his 2nd year in San Diego he produced a team that wiped us out by 34 points

I would put him below Tosh on the list, but get real here, he would be an upgrade over Wilcox just on what he did to us 8 weeks ago

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wowww kent state with a win loss record of .379 and he took them to 24-31 which is .44. I am so impressed! /s

how does Sean Lewis who let's be generous call him mediocre at Kent State with no west coast recruiting ties help us at Cal?

We are not looking at slightly better than Wilcox to save our program

TedfordTheGreat said:

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Strykur said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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SouthKBear said:

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tosh brings recruits, or stein from Oregon. Gives JKS a reason to stay since he obuviously like what he saw (or maybe the exposure and 500k uniforms they have).

I actually like Jim Mora. Worked on the west coast, now knows the east ish. He's direct and doesn't take BS. His interviews are entertaining. I like the "shut off your phone" one and where he walked out. Like a diff version of Mike leech.

Desean would bring some really talented WR hopefuls. Might see his career and want to play. He'll probability b the HC and WR coach. Would cost less due to not proven much as a HC. Very risky but could pay off. San Diego state coach seems like a cheaper hire too. And I'm sure he wants out of the Pac whatever they call themselves know, even before he's actually in there.

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His Wilcoxian record at Kent State:

2-10
7-6
3-1
7-7
5-7

At SDSU he is
3-9 and 9-2 . Ya he whopped our ass but he also got some questionable losses this year as well.

People are critiquing Tosh's record in the other thread and being so harsh, and then we suggest Sean Lewis? My god why don't we put the nail in the coffin

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Two things for your dumb ass:

1. Kent State, Kent ****ing State, is a program with an all-time win-loss percentage of .379(!!!), just getting that program to a bowl game is huge accomplishment, and for the last 2 seasons since he has left they are 1-23

2. In his 2nd year in San Diego he produced a team that wiped us out by 34 points

I would put him below Tosh on the list, but get real here, he would be an upgrade over Wilcox just on what he did to us 8 weeks ago

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wowww kent state with a win loss record of .379 and he took them to 24-31 which is .44. I am so impressed! /s

how does Sean Lewis who let's be generous call him mediocre at Kent State with no west coast recruiting ties help us at Cal?

We are not looking at slightly better than Wilcox to save our program

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Plus he's an offensive coach who's offense has been mediocre to bad at SDSU and is getting bailed out by the defense.

ac_green33 said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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Strykur said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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SouthKBear said:

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tosh brings recruits, or stein from Oregon. Gives JKS a reason to stay since he obuviously like what he saw (or maybe the exposure and 500k uniforms they have).

I actually like Jim Mora. Worked on the west coast, now knows the east ish. He's direct and doesn't take BS. His interviews are entertaining. I like the "shut off your phone" one and where he walked out. Like a diff version of Mike leech.

Desean would bring some really talented WR hopefuls. Might see his career and want to play. He'll probability b the HC and WR coach. Would cost less due to not proven much as a HC. Very risky but could pay off. San Diego state coach seems like a cheaper hire too. And I'm sure he wants out of the Pac whatever they call themselves know, even before he's actually in there.

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His Wilcoxian record at Kent State:

2-10
7-6
3-1
7-7
5-7

At SDSU he is
3-9 and 9-2 . Ya he whopped our ass but he also got some questionable losses this year as well.

People are critiquing Tosh's record in the other thread and being so harsh, and then we suggest Sean Lewis? My god why don't we put the nail in the coffin

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Two things for your dumb ass:

1. Kent State, Kent ****ing State, is a program with an all-time win-loss percentage of .379(!!!), just getting that program to a bowl game is huge accomplishment, and for the last 2 seasons since he has left they are 1-23

2. In his 2nd year in San Diego he produced a team that wiped us out by 34 points

I would put him below Tosh on the list, but get real here, he would be an upgrade over Wilcox just on what he did to us 8 weeks ago

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wowww kent state with a win loss record of .379 and he took them to 24-31 which is .44. I am so impressed! /s

how does Sean Lewis who let's be generous call him mediocre at Kent State with no west coast recruiting ties help us at Cal?

We are not looking at slightly better than Wilcox to save our program

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Plus he's an offensive coach who's offense has been mediocre to bad at SDSU and is getting bailed out by the defense.

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Yeah, Lewis is Exhibit A for the kind of coach Cal might settle for in a lazy or poorly-run coaching search. Hiring someone like that could mean another coaching tenure of being stuck in the mud.

From the LA Times' UCLA beat writer:

An open letter to UCLA chancellor Julio Frenk about Bruins athletics

TedfordTheGreat said:

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SouthKBear said:

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tosh brings recruits, or stein from Oregon. Gives JKS a reason to stay since he obuviously like what he saw (or maybe the exposure and 500k uniforms they have).

I actually like Jim Mora. Worked on the west coast, now knows the east ish. He's direct and doesn't take BS. His interviews are entertaining. I like the "shut off your phone" one and where he walked out. Like a diff version of Mike leech.

Desean would bring some really talented WR hopefuls. Might see his career and want to play. He'll probability b the HC and WR coach. Would cost less due to not proven much as a HC. Very risky but could pay off. San Diego state coach seems like a cheaper hire too. And I'm sure he wants out of the Pac whatever they call themselves know, even before he's actually in there.

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Agreed here. I like Tosh, Stein is intriguing but his track record is limited. I like Jim Mora too, but are we perceived to be a better job than Mora's job? Those are my top 3 at the moment.

We need someone who can bring in recruits with west coast ties. We have so many good players in our back yard in Monte Vista, De La Salle, Antioch, San Ramon Valley etc. We lost them all to out of state.

People who vouch for Sean Lewis. I don't get it. Because he beat us this year?

His Wilcoxian record at Kent State:

2-10
7-6
3-1
7-7
5-7

At SDSU he is
3-9 and 9-2 . Ya he whopped our ass but he also got some questionable losses this year as well.

People are critiquing Tosh's record in the other thread and being so harsh, and then we suggest Sean Lewis? My god why don't we put the nail in the coffin

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Kent state is HORRIBLE. THey have been so for decades. Also look at the record -- he played several "for play" road games where they were road kill against top 10 teams. Those are brutal games to judge someone on.

He took over a dumpster fire at SDSU. He has 2 L's this year - on the road in the palouse which the Bears have often choked and on the road against Hawaii. SDSU flies commercial to save $$$. And we are not talking business class.

SB's post is both illuminating and terrifying - that Lewis will get a pass because he won't bring talent with him. Time will tell but I hope the whales are ready to open pocket books in a big way for a lateral move because - if by definition a G5 coach isn't bringing current P4 talent it is also true, by definition, that said "followers" from the P4 already had one chance to pick Cal and they passed. It also might be illuminating to note that VERY few free agent guys in the NFL follow coaches with a discount. It is a business.

It's a business.

PERIOD.

Where is the money to compete coming from?

Bearly Clad said:

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I wouldn't mind giving DeSean a shot at it. It could be a lot worse and since he already had a productive pro career he'd probably be willing to go on a prove-it deal until he earns a Wilcox contract. My ideal choice is Davis Webb but I think that's incredibly unlikely

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I think the Davis Webb name is one of the most interesting ones. I don't get too wrapped up in the suggestions emotionally, because most people argue for coaches they have heard about (like the Tosh discussions.) We of course know Webb for "close to home" reasons too, but I will say this-there are close to no other chances where Cal is going to be able to hire an NFL Coordinator. Now, does some other college program with an opening take this big of a swing as well? We will see....

mbBear said:

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Bearly Clad said:

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I wouldn't mind giving DeSean a shot at it. It could be a lot worse and since he already had a productive pro career he'd probably be willing to go on a prove-it deal until he earns a Wilcox contract. My ideal choice is Davis Webb but I think that's incredibly unlikely

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I think the Davis Webb name is one of the most interesting ones. I don't get too wrapped up in the suggestions emotionally, because most people argue for coaches they have heard about (like the Tosh discussions.) We of course know Webb for "close to home" reasons too, but I will say this-there are close to no other chances where Cal is going to be able to hire an NFL Coordinator. Now, does some other college program with an opening take this big of a swing as well? We will see....

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The Webb speculation isn't just because he's a known name for us and would do us a favor by coming back. He's not an OC he's a QB coach. That said the reasons it would be a great swing to take if he's interested are:

-he's a hotshot up & coming NFL coach who's expected to be an OC as soon as next season

-he's been credited with helping the development of Josh Allen, Daniel Jones in his best year in NY, and Bo Nix. Some of that was as a player in the QB room but it was widely reported that he was really a QB coach who stayed on as a backup QB because he got paid more and had fewer hours (it was the HC's suggestion)

-he's young and has an NFL background both of which have proven to be beneficial in recruiting

-making the jump from QB coach straight to HC with a big pay raise would accelerate his career as guys can get stuck on the wheel for a decade or more before getting that shot. Also one bad year or stop can relegate them to an afterthought. See: Tampa's OC when they won the Super Bowl (forget his name) being considered the top HC candidate and then staying one more year and it backfired and he never got his HC shot

-he's worked with some very good offensive minds in the NFL and has good mentors and connections

-college coaches have much more job security and longevity than the NFL does as well as many more opportunities should they leave or get fired

Now for the reasons it's wildly unlikely:

-he's a hotshot up & coming NFL coach who's expected to be an OC as soon as next season. I think he wants to be an NFL coach

-college coaches don't often get the nod to jump to the NFL so even if he jumps up the ranks to HC now it could end up being a career setback for him long term

-I get the feeling that Rivera is one of those guys who wants a more proven commodity and/or someone he has a personal connection with. This is based on his hires throughout his NFL career as a HC and as HC/GM with the Commies

-he's in a great situation right now for a young NFL coach and there's no guarantee if he leaves that he'll ever get back to that level. But if he rides it out and it doesn't work out CFB will likely always be an option for him down the road

-if he's in line for an OC job soon in the NFL then our HC job isn't *that* big of a pay disparity. Chip was the highest paid coordinator before being fired at $6MM but there are plenty others in the 3-5 range. For a new hotshot coordinator he's going to be on the upper end of that and possibly in a state/city (Seattle, for one) that doesn't pay state income tax so at least half that salary would be going a lot further than a California paycheck

mbBear said:

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Bearly Clad said:

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I wouldn't mind giving DeSean a shot at it. It could be a lot worse and since he already had a productive pro career he'd probably be willing to go on a prove-it deal until he earns a Wilcox contract. My ideal choice is Davis Webb but I think that's incredibly unlikely

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I think the Davis Webb name is one of the most interesting ones. I don't get too wrapped up in the suggestions emotionally, because most people argue for coaches they have heard about (like the Tosh discussions.) We of course know Webb for "close to home" reasons too, but I will say this-there are close to no other chances where Cal is going to be able to hire an NFL Coordinator. Now, does some other college program with an opening take this big of a swing as well? We will see....

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Webb is interesting because he's an up-and-comer on the offensive side of the game, which is where Cal has been sadly lacking, but he shouldn't get any extra points for a Cal affiliation. More importantly, I doubt he gives Cal any extra points just because he got his ticket punched here. I have no hard feelings, but the guy was barely here long enough to have a Top Dog, and really only served as a band-aid to cover Sonny's incredible inability to recruit a good HS QB while he had Goff's success as a lure.

It's too bad Troy Taylor had two bad years at Stanfurd (largely due to Stanfurd regarding the Portal as a one-way exit-only vehicle during his tenure). This seems to have obliterated the memory of his successful run at Sac State, which was a dead-end program until he arrived. At this point, Troy may be considered too old for Cal's HC job, and that's too bad.

Bearly Clad said:

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mbBear said:

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Bearly Clad said:

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I wouldn't mind giving DeSean a shot at it. It could be a lot worse and since he already had a productive pro career he'd probably be willing to go on a prove-it deal until he earns a Wilcox contract. My ideal choice is Davis Webb but I think that's incredibly unlikely

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I think the Davis Webb name is one of the most interesting ones. I don't get too wrapped up in the suggestions emotionally, because most people argue for coaches they have heard about (like the Tosh discussions.) We of course know Webb for "close to home" reasons too, but I will say this-there are close to no other chances where Cal is going to be able to hire an NFL Coordinator. Now, does some other college program with an opening take this big of a swing as well? We will see....

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The Webb speculation isn't just because he's a known name for us and would do us a favor by coming back. He's not an OC he's a QB coach. That said the reasons it would be a great swing to take if he's interested are:

-he's a hotshot up & coming NFL coach who's expected to be an OC as soon as next season

-he's been credited with helping the development of Josh Allen, Daniel Jones in his best year in NY, and Bo Nix. Some of that was as a player in the QB room but it was widely reported that he was really a QB coach who stayed on as a backup QB because he got paid more and had fewer hours (it was the HC's suggestion)

-he's young and has an NFL background both of which have proven to be beneficial in recruiting

-making the jump from QB coach straight to HC with a big pay raise would accelerate his career as guys can get stuck on the wheel for a decade or more before getting that shot. Also one bad year or stop can relegate them to an afterthought. See: Tampa's OC when they won the Super Bowl (forget his name) being considered the top HC candidate and then staying one more year and it backfired and he never got his HC shot

-he's worked with some very good offensive minds in the NFL and has good mentors and connections

-college coaches have much more job security and longevity than the NFL does as well as many more opportunities should they leave or get fired

Now for the reasons it's wildly unlikely:

-he's a hotshot up & coming NFL coach who's expected to be an OC as soon as next season. I think he wants to be an NFL coach

-college coaches don't often get the nod to jump to the NFL so even if he jumps up the ranks to HC now it could end up being a career setback for him long term

-I get the feeling that Rivera is one of those guys who wants a more proven commodity and/or someone he has a personal connection with. This is based on his hires throughout his NFL career as a HC and as HC/GM with the Commies

-he's in a great situation right now for a young NFL coach and there's no guarantee if he leaves that he'll ever get back to that level. But if he rides it out and it doesn't work out CFB will likely always be an option for him down the road

-if he's in line for an OC job soon in the NFL then our HC job isn't *that* big of a pay disparity. Chip was the highest paid coordinator before being fired at $6MM but there are plenty others in the 3-5 range. For a new hotshot coordinator he's going to be on the upper end of that and possibly in a state/city (Seattle, for one) that doesn't pay state income tax so at least half that salary would be going a lot further than a California paycheck

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my bad on coordinator title.....and no one is "doing us a favor." More does he have positive feelings about the university from his time there...

HearstMining said:

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mbBear said:

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Bearly Clad said:

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I wouldn't mind giving DeSean a shot at it. It could be a lot worse and since he already had a productive pro career he'd probably be willing to go on a prove-it deal until he earns a Wilcox contract. My ideal choice is Davis Webb but I think that's incredibly unlikely

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I think the Davis Webb name is one of the most interesting ones. I don't get too wrapped up in the suggestions emotionally, because most people argue for coaches they have heard about (like the Tosh discussions.) We of course know Webb for "close to home" reasons too, but I will say this-there are close to no other chances where Cal is going to be able to hire an NFL Coordinator. Now, does some other college program with an opening take this big of a swing as well? We will see....

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Webb is interesting because he's an up-and-comer on the offensive side of the game, which is where Cal has been sadly lacking, but he shouldn't any extra points for a Cal affiliation. More importantly, I doubt he gives Cal any extra points just because he got his ticket punched here. I have no hard feelings, but the guy was barely here long enough to have a Top Dog, and really only served as a band-aid to cover Sonny's incredible inability to recruit a good HS QB while he had Goff's success as a lure.

It's too bad Troy Taylor had two bad years at Stanfurd (largely due to Stanfurd regarding the Portal as a one-way exit-only vehicle during his tenure). This seems to have obliterated the memory of his successful run at Sac State, which was a dead-end program until he arrived. At this point, Troy may be considered too old for Cal's HC job, and that's too bad.

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Sad to say, but TT is JW v2. Low energy, cerebral type.

No need to look any further, here's our guy:

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2025-11-24/pete-carroll-fires-chip-kelly-after-raiders-loss-ohio-state-ucla-usc

When looking at all of the open college head coaching positions, I am not sure what puts us in the running against many of these schools given our long checkered football history. Tosh will probably get the job because the interest of others with good qualifications may be low.

annarborbear said:

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When looking at all of the open college head coaching positions, I am not sure what puts in the running against many of these schools given our long checkered football history. Tosh will probably get the job because the interest of others with good qualifications may be low.

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The most valid scenario, but I believe Mr. Tosh is just playing Berkeley for a better gig.

Bobodeluxe said:

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annarborbear said:

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When looking at all of the open college head coaching positions, I am not sure what puts in the running against many of these schools given our long checkered football history. Tosh will probably get the job because the interest of others with good qualifications may be low.

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The most valid scenario, but I believe Mr. Tosh is just playing Berkeley for a better gig.

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No. Per sources (who know) he is most interested in the Cal job.

annarborbear said:

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When looking at all of the open college head coaching positions, I am not sure what puts us in the running against many of these schools given our long checkered football history. Tosh will probably get the job because the interest of others with good qualifications may be low.

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$$$ will decide with whom we are in the running and are not. You don't want a guy who is unsure that he can turn Cal around. If the $$$ is right, ego will call the tune.

I would go with Tosh with one caveat - I would want him to be able to name at least two assistants from whom he has a commitment to come here with him. I would want him to be able to show that he can make some quality hires.

Rushinbear said:

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annarborbear said:

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When looking at all of the open college head coaching positions, I am not sure what puts us in the running against many of these schools given our long checkered football history. Tosh will probably get the job because the interest of others with good qualifications may be low.

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$$$ will decide with whom we are in the running and are not. You don't want a guy who is unsure that he can turn Cal around. If the $$$ is right, ego will call the tune.

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Too true. These high dollar stakes twist the mind.

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Bobodeluxe said:

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annarborbear said:

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When looking at all of the open college head coaching positions, I am not sure what puts in the running against many of these schools given our long checkered football history. Tosh will probably get the job because the interest of others with good qualifications may be low.

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The most valid scenario, but I believe Mr. Tosh is just playing Berkeley for a better gig.

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No. Per sources (who know) he is most interested in the Cal job.

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There's only one source who knows and he has every incentive to tell everyone at all locations what they want to hear. That isn't a knock specifically on him. It is the game.

I would assume any candidate is going to take best offer until they actually take a lesser offer.

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I would go with Tosh with one caveat - I would want him to be able to name at least two assistants from whom he has a commitment to come here with him. I would want him to be able to show that he can make some quality hires.

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Honestly, I don't know why so many of you can't keep your powder dry for even 24 hours. We don't even know who is in the running yet.

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annarborbear said:

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I would go with Tosh with one caveat - I would want him to be able to name at least two assistants from whom he has a commitment to come here with him. I would want him to be able to show that he can make some quality hires.

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Honestly, I don't know why so many of you can't keep your powder dry for even 24 hours. We don't even know who is in the running yet.

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Everyone is expressing an opinion. It is called a fan board. And we all pay to be here.

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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annarborbear said:

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I would go with Tosh with one caveat - I would want him to be able to name at least two assistants from whom he has a commitment to come here with him. I would want him to be able to show that he can make some quality hires.

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Honestly, I don't know why so many of you can't keep your powder dry for even 24 hours. We don't even know who is in the running yet.

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Everyone is expressing an opinion. It is called a fan board. And we all pay to be here.

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Well, not everybody

annarborbear said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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annarborbear said:

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I would go with Tosh with one caveat - I would want him to be able to name at least two assistants from whom he has a commitment to come here with him. I would want him to be able to show that he can make some quality hires.

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Honestly, I don't know why so many of you can't keep your powder dry for even 24 hours. We don't even know who is in the running yet.

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Everyone is expressing an opinion. It is called a fan board. And we all pay to be here.

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And you are free to express it. Didn't say you weren't. Just expressing my opinion that maybe waiting until we have a modicum of information before forming an opinion might do people well in the long run. Why set yourself up for disappointment if the candidate you've become unnecessarily attached to doesn't get the job or worse a candidate you've decided to hate gets it. Especially when we can only judge a candidate by public record and don't have the benefit of like 80% of the information Rivera will have.

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annarborbear said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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annarborbear said:

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I would go with Tosh with one caveat - I would want him to be able to name at least two assistants from whom he has a commitment to come here with him. I would want him to be able to show that he can make some quality hires.

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Honestly, I don't know why so many of you can't keep your powder dry for even 24 hours. We don't even know who is in the running yet.

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Everyone is expressing an opinion. It is called a fan board. And we all pay to be here.

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Well, not everybody

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Oh, we all pay, Stryk. Believe me, everyone here pays to be a Cal fan one way or another.

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annarborbear said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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annarborbear said:

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I would go with Tosh with one caveat - I would want him to be able to name at least two assistants from whom he has a commitment to come here with him. I would want him to be able to show that he can make some quality hires.

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Honestly, I don't know why so many of you can't keep your powder dry for even 24 hours. We don't even know who is in the running yet.

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Everyone is expressing an opinion. It is called a fan board. And we all pay to be here.

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And you are free to express it. Didn't say you weren't. Just expressing my opinion that maybe waiting until we have a modicum of information before forming an opinion might do people well in the long run. Why set yourself up for disappointment if the candidate you've become unnecessarily attached to doesn't get the job or worse a candidate you've decided to hate gets it. Especially when we can only judge a candidate by public record and don't have the benefit of like 80% of the information Rivera will have.

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We'll never know who is in or out, offered or not, why or why not. Potential candidates cannot afford to make their intentions known and the AD can't show his cards, either. Nature of the beast.

Rushinbear said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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annarborbear said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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annarborbear said:

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I would go with Tosh with one caveat - I would want him to be able to name at least two assistants from whom he has a commitment to come here with him. I would want him to be able to show that he can make some quality hires.

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Honestly, I don't know why so many of you can't keep your powder dry for even 24 hours. We don't even know who is in the running yet.

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Everyone is expressing an opinion. It is called a fan board. And we all pay to be here.

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And you are free to express it. Didn't say you weren't. Just expressing my opinion that maybe waiting until we have a modicum of information before forming an opinion might do people well in the long run. Why set yourself up for disappointment if the candidate you've become unnecessarily attached to doesn't get the job or worse a candidate you've decided to hate gets it. Especially when we can only judge a candidate by public record and don't have the benefit of like 80% of the information Rivera will have.

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We'll never know who is in or out, offered or not, why or why not. Potential candidates cannot afford to make their intentions known and the AD can't show his cards, either. Nature of the beast.

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Personally, I prefer to think about who might be on the list, who I'd like to see on the list, etc. I'm not privy to all the relevant information and know enough to know I wouldn't know what to do with it if I did, so I just don't see the point in going all in on one candidate.

Hell, Keith Gilbertson looked great on paper. So did Roger Theder. Bruce Snyder seemed to come out of left field.

Hypothetical question: Tosh vs Desean - who would you choose?

HungryCalBear said:

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Hypothetical question: Tosh vs Desean - who would you choose?

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If the former does not work out, get the latter

HungryCalBear said:

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Hypothetical question: Tosh vs Desean - who would you choose?

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Fish has way more experience with P4 programs.
Not even close.

HungryCalBear said:

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Hypothetical question: Tosh vs Desean - who would you choose?

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Based on what I know, neither.

HungryCalBear said:

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Hypothetical question: Tosh vs Desean - who would you choose?

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Cal would be the dream job for Desean, while Tosh has had a track record of a mercenary mindset, viewing coaching as a business. That's one knock against Tosh, but the reason I don't want Tosh is that I don't think he is good enough in the bread and butter aspects of the job to lead Cal.

Desean has done a tremendous job in his first assignment as a head coach, turning a 1-11 program into an 8-4 winner.

Good article from the Sporting News about DJ and the Cal opening:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/desean-jackson-signals-where-he-stands-aaron-rodgers-marshawn-lynch-cal-and-future-coaching-opportunities/1f3205df308b63f8581dcc64

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Cal does not just need a new football coach. It needs a spark. It needs a direction. It needs a program builder who can reconnect the team to its alumni, reset the culture, and give the Bears an identity in a rebuilt ACC. DeSean Jackson checks every one of those boxes and brings something Cal has not had in years. Undeniable belief.

What Jackson did at Delaware State was not a rebuild. It was a resurrection. In one year he took a 1-11 program and turned it into an 8-4 team that played for the MEAC championship. The Hornets posted the largest win improvement in all of FCS football, and Jackson has been named an Eddie Robinson Award finalist. That honor goes to the national FCS Coach of the Year. It is national validation that his rise is real.

More importantly, he changed the program's heartbeat. Jackson explained on the MEAC coaches call that his philosophy begins with people, not plays. Be where your feet are, he told reporters. It is the same message he gives his players. We cannot get caught up in the chaos of the noise.

When he was asked about his coaching aspirations, Jackson did not dodge the question. He gave one of the clearest windows into who he is and how he sees his future.

...But nothing defines him more than the way he pours into his players. Jackson returned repeatedly to one theme. His players needed love, structure, honesty, and belief. These young men believe and trust in us, he said. They are willing to run through a brick wall for us. That level of buy in does not happen by accident. It happens when players know their coach sees them, respects them, and pushes them toward something greater than football.

Cal needs that. It needs a unifier and a motivator. It needs a face of the program who can recruit the Bay Area, energize the fan base, and bring back the swagger of the Marshawn Lynch, Aaron Rodgers, and DeSean Jackson era. It needs someone the players will follow and the alumni will rally behind.

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We could do a lot worse than Desean.

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HungryCalBear said:

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Hypothetical question: Tosh vs Desean - who would you choose?

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Cal would be the dream job for Desean, while Tosh has had a track record of a mercenary mindset, viewing coaching as a business. That's one knock against Tosh, but the reason I don't want Tosh is that I don't think he is good enough in the bread and butter aspects of the job to lead Cal.

Desean has done a tremendous job in his first assignment as a head coach, turning a 1-11 program into an 8-4 winner.

Good article from the Sporting News about DJ and the Cal opening:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/desean-jackson-signals-where-he-stands-aaron-rodgers-marshawn-lynch-cal-and-future-coaching-opportunities/1f3205df308b63f8581dcc64

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Cal does not just need a new football coach. It needs a spark. It needs a direction. It needs a program builder who can reconnect the team to its alumni, reset the culture, and give the Bears an identity in a rebuilt ACC. DeSean Jackson checks every one of those boxes and brings something Cal has not had in years. Undeniable belief.

What Jackson did at Delaware State was not a rebuild. It was a resurrection. In one year he took a 111 program and turned it into an 84 team that played for the MEAC championship. The Hornets posted the largest win improvement in all of FCS football, and Jackson has been named an Eddie Robinson Award finalist. That honor goes to the national FCS Coach of the Year. It is national validation that his rise is real.

More importantly, he changed the program's heartbeat. Jackson explained on the MEAC coaches call that his philosophy begins with people, not plays. Be where your feet are, he told reporters. It is the same message he gives his players. We cannot get caught up in the chaos of the noise.

When he was asked about his coaching aspirations, Jackson did not dodge the question. He gave one of the clearest windows into who he is and how he sees his future.

...But nothing defines him more than the way he pours into his players. Jackson returned repeatedly to one theme. His players needed love, structure, honesty, and belief. These young men believe and trust in us, he said. They are willing to run through a brick wall for us. That level of buy in does not happen by accident. It happens when players know their coach sees them, respects them, and pushes them toward something greater than football.

Cal needs that. It needs a unifier and a motivator. It needs a face of the program who can recruit the Bay Area, energize the fan base, and bring back the swagger of the Marshawn Lynch, Aaron Rodgers, and DeSean Jackson era. It needs someone the players will follow and the alumni will rally behind.

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We could do a lot worse than Desean.

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I don't think DeSean graduated from Cal which I believe is a prerequisite to coaching here (an undergraduate degree). I could be wrong though, I just recall this coming up on the MBB side at one point

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Cal88 said:

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HungryCalBear said:

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Hypothetical question: Tosh vs Desean - who would you choose?

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Cal would be the dream job for Desean, while Tosh has had a track record of a mercenary mindset, viewing coaching as a business. That's one knock against Tosh, but the reason I don't want Tosh is that I don't think he is good enough in the bread and butter aspects of the job to lead Cal.

Desean has done a tremendous job in his first assignment as a head coach, turning a 1-11 program into an 8-4 winner.

Good article from the Sporting News about DJ and the Cal opening:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/desean-jackson-signals-where-he-stands-aaron-rodgers-marshawn-lynch-cal-and-future-coaching-opportunities/1f3205df308b63f8581dcc64

Excerpts:

Quote:

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Cal does not just need a new football coach. It needs a spark. It needs a direction. It needs a program builder who can reconnect the team to its alumni, reset the culture, and give the Bears an identity in a rebuilt ACC. DeSean Jackson checks every one of those boxes and brings something Cal has not had in years. Undeniable belief.

What Jackson did at Delaware State was not a rebuild. It was a resurrection. In one year he took a 111 program and turned it into an 84 team that played for the MEAC championship. The Hornets posted the largest win improvement in all of FCS football, and Jackson has been named an Eddie Robinson Award finalist. That honor goes to the national FCS Coach of the Year. It is national validation that his rise is real.

More importantly, he changed the program's heartbeat. Jackson explained on the MEAC coaches call that his philosophy begins with people, not plays. Be where your feet are, he told reporters. It is the same message he gives his players. We cannot get caught up in the chaos of the noise.

When he was asked about his coaching aspirations, Jackson did not dodge the question. He gave one of the clearest windows into who he is and how he sees his future.

...But nothing defines him more than the way he pours into his players. Jackson returned repeatedly to one theme. His players needed love, structure, honesty, and belief. These young men believe and trust in us, he said. They are willing to run through a brick wall for us. That level of buy in does not happen by accident. It happens when players know their coach sees them, respects them, and pushes them toward something greater than football.

Cal needs that. It needs a unifier and a motivator. It needs a face of the program who can recruit the Bay Area, energize the fan base, and bring back the swagger of the Marshawn Lynch, Aaron Rodgers, and DeSean Jackson era. It needs someone the players will follow and the alumni will rally behind.

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We could do a lot worse than Desean.

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I don't think DeSean graduated from Cal which I believe is a prerequisite to coaching here (an undergraduate degree). I could be wrong though, I just recall this coming up on the MBB side at one point

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Was that with Jason Kidd being mentioned as a potential candidate? Ironic because he is, if anything overqualified for the Cal MBB job with his head coaching experience in the NBA...

The main knock about Desean from my perspective is that he is a freakishly talented player, arguably the most talented player in the entire history of the Cal football program. For people gifted with those kinds of talent, winning comes easy, whereas people who had to work to build up their skills are intrinsically more connected with the process of coaching. In his case though, he seems to have exceptional leadership skills and is a pretty bright guy.

In any case, he has crossed paths with Rivera in the League as their long careers there overlapped, and I am sure he is on RRs radar.

When there was talk of Jason Kidd becoming our basketball coach, I recollect that the idea that the coach needs to have graduated was proven to be incorrect.