If Rolo - JKS have a strong and high impact relationship, I hope RR is focused on retaining Rolovich to retain JKS. Better teams will offer equal or greater NIL money to JKS. Coaching uncertainty will factor into JKS's decision. I think that with a fully committed JKS Cal will have an ability to recruit higher quality offensive players. With JKS gone, even with a better coach, I think 2026 will be a step backwards. Losing two excellent QBs in two consecutive seasons will further damage the Cal brand. I don't care a dang about the WSU Covid BS. Let's rebuild Cal football. If RR says Rolo is the HC, I'm all in. Because I think we can materially up tier talent with JKS loyal to Cal. JKS can be the foundation.
Importance of Rolo on retaining JKS
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Do we know for certain whether JKS is closer to Rolo than Harsin...? The new HC will want to build out his own Staff. Inherited Staff would not be a preference for any new HC...
Facts are facts!
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If Lupoi is told by Rivera to retain Rolovich, he will.if the money is right and he really wants to return to Cal it's a small concession to get his dream job. Jks wont be here for many years so he can fire Rolovich and get his own offensive coordinator in 2 years
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Pretty sure that you can choose if you want something in your body could be wrong though
JKS is an awesome QB, but you don't run a football program for 1 person. You hire the best coach you can and let him choose his staff. So he can run the offense and defense he knows how best to use. I hope JKS stays. But if not, we move on.
BrightBear said:
Pretty sure that you can choose if you want something in your body could be wrong though
Ha,seems obvious to the (slim) majority of people.you might ask.
Congratulations to @DukeFOOTBALL for making it to the @ACCFootball championship game. In this season of gratitude, I think it would be a fine gesture for Coach Diaz and all happy Duke fans to make a donation to a charity of the #Calgorithm’s choice. Calgorithm, do your thing.
— Nick Rolovich (@NickRolovich) November 30, 2025
Keep him, he's funny
Anarchistbear said:Congratulations to @DukeFOOTBALL for making it to the @ACCFootball championship game. In this season of gratitude, I think it would be a fine gesture for Coach Diaz and all happy Duke fans to make a donation to a charity of the #Calgorithm’s choice. Calgorithm, do your thing.
— Nick Rolovich (@NickRolovich) November 30, 2025
Keep him, he's funny
He gets Berkeley and the zany, off-kilter spirit of the city, student body, young alums, etc. more than anyone I can remember on staff. I don't know what his market value is right now but he would be a home run hire as QB coach/co-offensive coordinator, and should be in consideration for the OC role generally.
concernedparent said:Anarchistbear said:Congratulations to @DukeFOOTBALL for making it to the @ACCFootball championship game. In this season of gratitude, I think it would be a fine gesture for Coach Diaz and all happy Duke fans to make a donation to a charity of the #Calgorithm’s choice. Calgorithm, do your thing.
— Nick Rolovich (@NickRolovich) November 30, 2025
Keep him, he's funny
He gets Berkeley and the zany, off-kilter spirit of the city, student body, young alums, etc. more than anyone I can remember on staff. I don't know what his market value is right now but he would be a home run hire as QB coach/co-offensive coordinator, and should be in consideration for the OC role generally.
I was pushing OC initially, but QB coach/associate head coach may make more sense. Let tosh bring in his OC but find a way to keep Rolo's experience and strong relationship with JKS on staff
MinotStateBeav said:
JKS is an awesome QB, but you don't run a football program for 1 person. You hire the best coach you can and let him choose his staff. So he can run the offense and defense he knows how best to use. I hope JKS stays. But if not, we move on.
Normally I agree with this 100%. JKS is so good though WITHOUT virtually any help on offense that he and even Rolovich (apparently) are must keeps unless the new coach is your absolute best candidate and he has very good reasons for not keeping these two. I don't mean to bash anyone on offense because they are starters on a competitive D1 team and that means they are in the top 1% of athletes in our country but:
Receivers have little speed and therefore are always tightly covered.
Backs have little speed and power and therefore only run for what the OL gives them
OL creates minimum openings and provides sub par protection
Every offense possession requires long, mistake free drives in order for us to score points
JKS is hurried on almost every throw and throws into tight windows almost every time.
And yet he still has amazing games...for anyone let alone a true freshman. Get him some players, keep Rolo and our team is almost instantly much, much better NEXT YEAR. I don't know how you pass that up if at all possible. Every other scenario is a bit of a crapshoot.
Bearbassics said:concernedparent said:Anarchistbear said:Congratulations to @DukeFOOTBALL for making it to the @ACCFootball championship game. In this season of gratitude, I think it would be a fine gesture for Coach Diaz and all happy Duke fans to make a donation to a charity of the #Calgorithm’s choice. Calgorithm, do your thing.
— Nick Rolovich (@NickRolovich) November 30, 2025
Keep him, he's funny
He gets Berkeley and the zany, off-kilter spirit of the city, student body, young alums, etc. more than anyone I can remember on staff. I don't know what his market value is right now but he would be a home run hire as QB coach/co-offensive coordinator, and should be in consideration for the OC role generally.
I was pushing OC initially, but QB coach/associate head coach may make more sense. Let tosh bring in his OC but find a way to keep Rolo's experience and strong relationship with JKS on staff
So, y'all think it'll be Tosh? Why would he agree to keep Rolo? Except as an out, should his teams go south.
Whether it's Tosh or Rolo or someone else, let's just get on with it. Time's awastin'. We've got LOI day and the new Portal sched coming up. Good to hear that it might be by COB today.
Damn, 82. Absolutely, 100% accurate. Other than this qb being the most desired free agent in a world of ONLY free agents, easy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/28/health/fda-children-deaths-covid-vaccines.html
I don't blame him for not wanting to take it at the time. They tied his hands behind his back
I don't blame him for not wanting to take it at the time. They tied his hands behind his back
82gradDLSdad said:MinotStateBeav said:
JKS is an awesome QB, but you don't run a football program for 1 person. You hire the best coach you can and let him choose his staff. So he can run the offense and defense he knows how best to use. I hope JKS stays. But if not, we move on.
Normally I agree with this 100%. JKS is so good though WITHOUT virtually any help on offense that he and even Rolovich (apparently) are must keeps unless the new coach is your absolute best candidate and he has very good reasons for not keeping these two. I don't mean to bash anyone on offense because they are starters on a competitive D1 team and that means they are in the top 1% of athletes in our country but:
Receivers have little speed and therefore are always tightly covered.
Backs have little speed and power and therefore only run for what the OL gives them
OL creates minimum openings and provides sub par protection
Every offense possession requires long, mistake free drives in order for us to score points
JKS is hurried on almost every throw and throws into tight windows almost every time.
And yet he still has amazing games...for anyone let alone a true freshman. Get him some players, keep Rolo and our team is almost instantly much, much better NEXT YEAR. I don't know how you pass that up if at all possible. Every other scenario is a bit of a crapshoot.
100% agree with this. Normally a QB throwing off his back foot is a disaster. With JKS, he did it multiple times when under immediate pressure from the SMU DL... and he was consistently on target with a surprising amount of zip on the ball (for a back foot throw).
Not a normal QB or one that is remotely replaceable.
BrightBear said:
Pretty sure that you can choose if you want something in your body could be wrong though
The argument at the time was that as many people as possible needed to take it so that we could establish more herd immunity and protect people who (for whatever reason) can't take the vaccine (infants, immunocompromised people, etc.).
IMO that concern went out the window once the "Omicron" variant came out and COVID was then about as transmissible as the common cold and wasn't ever going to be contained. At that point the vaccine was entirely about protecting yourself. But at one time herd immunity was a possible goal, hence the requirements.
Programs are more than just one person, coach or player. But the thesis for hiring Lupoi is his ability to recruit. Let's hope that beyond just recruiting players and he recruit good assistant coaches as well.
The program is more than JKS but he's such a talent and he's displayed it on the national scene, that this can be a strength in recruiting.
Combine Lupoi's ability to recruit and JKS's talent, and you can see a path to build not just a strong offense but a strong overall team particularly with Lupoi's history of building defenses. You can build a center of gravity where recruits can be fed a story about a program on the rise which starts with one of the best QB's in CFB today who might be around for 2 more years.
Players want to win and these can be the seeds of momentum that serve as the snowball at the top of the hill. With JKS, we could upgrade across the board at receiver, running back and oline in a short amount of time.
The program is more than JKS but he's such a talent and he's displayed it on the national scene, that this can be a strength in recruiting.
Combine Lupoi's ability to recruit and JKS's talent, and you can see a path to build not just a strong offense but a strong overall team particularly with Lupoi's history of building defenses. You can build a center of gravity where recruits can be fed a story about a program on the rise which starts with one of the best QB's in CFB today who might be around for 2 more years.
Players want to win and these can be the seeds of momentum that serve as the snowball at the top of the hill. With JKS, we could upgrade across the board at receiver, running back and oline in a short amount of time.
freshfunk said:
Programs are more than just one person, coach or player. But the thesis for hiring Lupoi is his ability to recruit. Let's hope that beyond just recruiting players and he recruit good assistant coaches as well.
The program is more than JKS but he's such a talent and he's displayed it on the national scene, that this can be a strength in recruiting.
Combine Lupoi's ability to recruit and JKS's talent, and you can see a path to build not just a strong offense but a strong overall team particularly with Lupoi's history of building defenses. You can build a center of gravity where recruits can be fed a story about a program on the rise which starts with one of the best QB's in CFB today who might be around for 2 more years.
Players want to win and these can be the seeds of momentum that serve as the snowball at the top of the hill. With JKS, we could upgrade across the board at receiver, running back and oline in a short amount of time.
Yup. I can't remember which Tosh interview it was where he said recruiting starts with having a "hot product" to pitch. No hotter product than a stud QB like JKS…
concernedparent said:Anarchistbear said:Congratulations to @DukeFOOTBALL for making it to the @ACCFootball championship game. In this season of gratitude, I think it would be a fine gesture for Coach Diaz and all happy Duke fans to make a donation to a charity of the #Calgorithm’s choice. Calgorithm, do your thing.
— Nick Rolovich (@NickRolovich) November 30, 2025
Keep him, he's funny
He gets Berkeley and the zany, off-kilter spirit of the city, student body, young alums, etc. more than anyone I can remember on staff. I don't know what his market value is right now but he would be a home run hire as QB coach/co-offensive coordinator, and should be in consideration for the OC role generally.
I would say Tony Franklin as well but I get your point.
freshfunk said:
Programs are more than just one person, coach or player. But the thesis for hiring Lupoi is his ability to recruit. Let's hope that beyond just recruiting players and he recruit good assistant coaches as well.
The program is more than JKS but he's such a talent and he's displayed it on the national scene, that this can be a strength in recruiting.
Combine Lupoi's ability to recruit and JKS's talent, and you can see a path to build not just a strong offense but a strong overall team particularly with Lupoi's history of building defenses. You can build a center of gravity where recruits can be fed a story about a program on the rise which starts with one of the best QB's in CFB today who might be around for 2 more years.
Players want to win and these can be the seeds of momentum that serve as the snowball at the top of the hill. With JKS, we could upgrade across the board at receiver, running back and oline in a short amount of time.
So, it IS Tosh?
sycasey said:BrightBear said:
Pretty sure that you can choose if you want something in your body could be wrong though
The argument at the time was that as many people as possible needed to take it so that we could establish more herd immunity and protect people who (for whatever reason) can't take the vaccine (infants, immunocompromised people, etc.).
IMO that concern went out the window once the "Omicron" variant came out and COVID was then about as transmissible as the common cold and wasn't ever going to be contained. At that point the vaccine was entirely about protecting yourself. But at one time herd immunity was a possible goal, hence the requirements.
Herd immunity would have been good, but the real goal was to flatten the curve.
If everyone in the country got covid in a 1 month long period, and 1% of them experienced complications, we simply did not have enough hospital beds in the country for them all and death rates would have been far higher. I had a friend working at a hospital who had to turn away someone in the middle of a heart attack because there was no where to put them as it was. He gave them aspirin and said good luck.
I do wish we as a country did more to frame it as protecting our hospitals and their staff from being overrun with patients rather than being about protecting yourself or the immunocompromised. Pictures of hospitals being overrun and keeping counts of available hospital beds would have been far more tangible for the average American to understand and take appropriate action for.
MrGPAC said:sycasey said:BrightBear said:
Pretty sure that you can choose if you want something in your body could be wrong though
The argument at the time was that as many people as possible needed to take it so that we could establish more herd immunity and protect people who (for whatever reason) can't take the vaccine (infants, immunocompromised people, etc.).
IMO that concern went out the window once the "Omicron" variant came out and COVID was then about as transmissible as the common cold and wasn't ever going to be contained. At that point the vaccine was entirely about protecting yourself. But at one time herd immunity was a possible goal, hence the requirements.
Herd immunity would have been good, but the real goal was to flatten the curve.
If everyone in the country got covid in a 1 month long period, and 1% of them experienced complications, we simply did not have enough hospital beds in the country for them all and death rates would have been far higher. I had a friend working at a hospital who had to turn away someone in the middle of a heart attack because there was no where to put them as it was. He gave them aspirin and said good luck.
I do wish we as a country did more to frame it as protecting our hospitals and their staff from being overrun with patients rather than being about protecting yourself or the immunocompromised. Pictures of hospitals being overrun and keeping counts of available hospital beds would have been far more tangible for the average American to understand and take appropriate action for.
To remember hospital space being a frequent argument for the initial lockdowns, when COVID first emerged. But by the time the vaccines were out?
Anyway, I would still argue that once herd immunity was off the table then REQUIREMENTS to take the vaccine probably should have been too. Heavily encourage it? Run messaging campaigns about how great the vaccines are? Sure. That's a lot like the flu shot. And of course private entities can require whatever they want. But the government should have probably dropped any requirements at that point.
Bearbassics said:freshfunk said:
Programs are more than just one person, coach or player. But the thesis for hiring Lupoi is his ability to recruit. Let's hope that beyond just recruiting players and he recruit good assistant coaches as well.
The program is more than JKS but he's such a talent and he's displayed it on the national scene, that this can be a strength in recruiting.
Combine Lupoi's ability to recruit and JKS's talent, and you can see a path to build not just a strong offense but a strong overall team particularly with Lupoi's history of building defenses. You can build a center of gravity where recruits can be fed a story about a program on the rise which starts with one of the best QB's in CFB today who might be around for 2 more years.
Players want to win and these can be the seeds of momentum that serve as the snowball at the top of the hill. With JKS, we could upgrade across the board at receiver, running back and oline in a short amount of time.
Yup. I can't remember which Tosh interview it was where he said recruiting starts with having a "hot product" to pitch. No hotter product than a stud QB like JKS…
With even competitive NIL, we should have our pick of the litter when it comes to WRs, with JKS as a selling point.
Already tapped your NIL fund last night thank you for your service 🫡
— Barstool Blue Devils (@BarstoolBDevils) November 30, 2025
— Barstool Blue Devils (@BarstoolBDevils) December 1, 2025
Rolo got us $10 from a Dookie.
sycasey said:MrGPAC said:sycasey said:BrightBear said:
Pretty sure that you can choose if you want something in your body could be wrong though
The argument at the time was that as many people as possible needed to take it so that we could establish more herd immunity and protect people who (for whatever reason) can't take the vaccine (infants, immunocompromised people, etc.).
IMO that concern went out the window once the "Omicron" variant came out and COVID was then about as transmissible as the common cold and wasn't ever going to be contained. At that point the vaccine was entirely about protecting yourself. But at one time herd immunity was a possible goal, hence the requirements.
Herd immunity would have been good, but the real goal was to flatten the curve.
If everyone in the country got covid in a 1 month long period, and 1% of them experienced complications, we simply did not have enough hospital beds in the country for them all and death rates would have been far higher. I had a friend working at a hospital who had to turn away someone in the middle of a heart attack because there was no where to put them as it was. He gave them aspirin and said good luck.
I do wish we as a country did more to frame it as protecting our hospitals and their staff from being overrun with patients rather than being about protecting yourself or the immunocompromised. Pictures of hospitals being overrun and keeping counts of available hospital beds would have been far more tangible for the average American to understand and take appropriate action for.
To remember hospital space being a frequent argument for the initial lockdowns, when COVID first emerged. But by the time the vaccines were out?
Anyway, I would still argue that once herd immunity was off the table then REQUIREMENTS to take the vaccine probably should have been too. Heavily encourage it? Run messaging campaigns about how great the vaccines are? Sure. That's a lot like the flu shot. And of course private entities can require whatever they want. But the government should have probably dropped any requirements at that point.
The hospitals were mostly saved by the shut downs / quarantines. Many people didn't leave quarantine until after the vaccines were out. The hope was vaccines would accelerate return to normal life while still preventing hospitals from being overrun by stretching out the curve and reducing the number of critical cases in the first place.
I am extremely pro vaccine. I got mine as soon as it was widely available (I didn't rush or cut lines as I worked remotely and could quarantine easily). But I have a hard time requiring someone else to take a shot, even if its for the betterment of society. At the very least it is a nuanced topic and I can certainly empathize with the doubters, even if I disagree with them.
Especially, as you said, once herd immunity was off the table.
This is awesome, let's keep it going!PAC-10-BEAR said:Already tapped your NIL fund last night thank you for your service 🫡
— Barstool Blue Devils (@BarstoolBDevils) November 30, 2025— Barstool Blue Devils (@BarstoolBDevils) December 1, 2025
Rolo got us $10 from a Dookie.
No one should be forced to take a COVID vaccine period
PAC-10-BEAR said:Already tapped your NIL fund last night thank you for your service 🫡
— Barstool Blue Devils (@BarstoolBDevils) November 30, 2025— Barstool Blue Devils (@BarstoolBDevils) December 1, 2025
Rolo got us $10 from a Dookie.
lol
Johnfox said:
No one should be forced to take a COVID vaccine period
The vaccine was a condition of employment at wsu.It prevents the spread of the virus and thus protects the students. You can disagree but those were the rules at the time .that being said ,I am not opposed to Rolovich being the coach. Times have changed. I got as many boosters as I could and have never got the virus and had no side effects.
Johnfox said:
No one should be forced to take a COVID vaccine period
He wasn't forced to get the vaccine, he was given a choice: protect the people you are coaching and working with, and provide your employer with reasonable defense in the case of injury or death, or quit.
And, he lied about his reasoning, exposed when his $120 million lawsuit was tossed. Coffee Cup level of morality.
Bobodeluxe said:Johnfox said:
No one should be forced to take a COVID vaccine period
He wasn't forced to get the vaccine, he was given a choice: protect the people you are coaching and working with, and provide your employer with reasonable defense in the case of injury or death, or quit.
The student-athletes weren't at high risk. The younger the patient, the more risks from the mRNA vaccines outweigh the benefits. In fact it has recently been revealed that many children died from the mRNA vaccines, a revelation that caused the stock price of the 4 main vaccine companies to drop this week by 4%-6%.
https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20251201315/vaccine-stocks-slide-as-fda-official-links-covid-vaccines-and-heart-conditions-in-young-men
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vaccine-stocks-drop-after-fda-memo-links-covid-shots-childrens-deaths
Rolo's older colleagues at WSU could take the vaccines if they feel they need to, but there is no evidence that the mRNA vaccines stopped the spread of the virus, something that became known pretty quickly after their introduction.
oskidunker said:Johnfox said:
The vaccine was a condition of employment at wsu.
This is the point. Your employer sets rules; you can either follow the rules or leave your job. If your employer requires you to wear shoes and you say you won't wear shoes because you are ideologically opposed to shoes, well that's fine, you can choose to not wear shoes but then you need to find a job that doesn't require you to wear shoes.
Johnfox said:
No one should be forced to take a COVID vaccine period
I mean, that isn't even an argument anymore. COVID isn't a major public health threat now.
But at the time Rolo was being asked to get the vaccine, it potentially still was.
Cal88 said:Bobodeluxe said:Johnfox said:
No one should be forced to take a COVID vaccine period
He wasn't forced to get the vaccine, he was given a choice: protect the people you are coaching and working with, and provide your employer with reasonable defense in the case of injury or death, or quit.
The student-athletes weren't at high risk. The younger the patient, the more risks from the mRNA vaccines outweigh the benefits. In fact it has recently been revealed that many children died from the mRNA vaccines, a revelation that caused the stock price of the 4 main vaccine companies to drop this week by 4%-6%.
https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20251201315/vaccine-stocks-slide-as-fda-official-links-covid-vaccines-and-heart-conditions-in-young-men
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vaccine-stocks-drop-after-fda-memo-links-covid-shots-childrens-deaths
Rolo's older colleagues at WSU could take the vaccines if they feel they need to, but there is no evidence that the mRNA vaccines stopped the spread of the virus, something that became known pretty quickly after their introduction.
Well, I CERTAINLY trust the source:
"The FDA has not publicly shared the internal research cited in the memo, although Prasad said it comes from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which gathers reports of adverse events from the public, healthcare professionals and manufacturers.
During the pandemic, Prasad gained an online following for his opposition to vaccine mandates and concern about myocarditis risk from the COVID-19 vaccines."
lol
Bobodeluxe said:Cal88 said:Bobodeluxe said:Johnfox said:
No one should be forced to take a COVID vaccine period
He wasn't forced to get the vaccine, he was given a choice: protect the people you are coaching and working with, and provide your employer with reasonable defense in the case of injury or death, or quit.
The student-athletes weren't at high risk. The younger the patient, the more risks from the mRNA vaccines outweigh the benefits. In fact it has recently been revealed that many children died from the mRNA vaccines, a revelation that caused the stock price of the 4 main vaccine companies to drop this week by 4%-6%.
https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20251201315/vaccine-stocks-slide-as-fda-official-links-covid-vaccines-and-heart-conditions-in-young-men
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vaccine-stocks-drop-after-fda-memo-links-covid-shots-childrens-deaths
Rolo's older colleagues at WSU could take the vaccines if they feel they need to, but there is no evidence that the mRNA vaccines stopped the spread of the virus, something that became known pretty quickly after their introduction.
Well, I CERTAINLY trust the source:
"The FDA has not publicly shared the internal research cited in the memo, although Prasad said it comes from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which gathers reports of adverse events from the public, healthcare professionals and manufacturers.
During the pandemic, Prasad gained an online following for his opposition to vaccine mandates and concern about myocarditis risk from the COVID-19 vaccines."
lol
I don't trust the source either here, VAERS, as it tends to vastly understate the number of adverse effects, so we do kind of agree here Bobo.
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