TLDW:

Lane takes LSU job but wants to coach Ole Miss (11-1 mind you) though the CFB playoffs.

Ole Miss AD said hell no, as there is no way to assure Lane is no longer conflicted.

Lane doesn't want to look like a bad guy on his way out (again) so decides to double down and tells his entire coaching staff to get on the plane to Baton Rouge now or he'll never hire them later.

So a CFB bound team is going to have their coaching staff gutted and likely a shell of itself.

What a time to be alive.

There needs to be a ban on player coach movement until playoffs are over. This just destroys the game.

blungld said:

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There needs to be a ban on player coach movement until playoffs are over. This just destroys the game.

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unfortunately there's still "school calendars" in play here. CFB playoffs extend into the spring semester and that disrupts the current transfer windows

Lots of coaches and admin "voices" but nothing seems aligned with player interests. I guess players all get paid well now so they get the back seat here again. The portal , playoff, movement windows do seem misaligned. Im guilty of a bad euphemism, like talking about a few bricks in a garden path can be misaligned. This is upheaval.

Ole Miss should offer all the head coaches the gig for the playoffs. Franklin HC, Wilcox DC, Kelly OC.

that fence at the airport needs to be higher lol

Lane Kiffin getting on the plane at the Oxford AirPort. 4 coaches in total. @cadesmith_3 @YancyPorter @MartySmithESPN pic.twitter.com/1uiXx4DWiC

— Les Goh (@GohLes1) November 30, 2025

As the first members of the Kiffin contingent, including brother Chris, board the plane, Ole Miss fans at Oxford Airport loudly boo the departing group. pic.twitter.com/BzISsV8zrs

— John Talty (@JTalty) November 30, 2025

Just wait half a dozen years and half the Ole Miss fans will be eager to hire him back.

LSU @ Ole Miss next season is probably going to require the national guard to come babysit

Lane Kiffin's 1st game w/LSU will be at home vs. Clemson on Sept. 5.

He will play at both 👀Ole Miss & Tennessee next season 🔥

LSU's remaining 2026 SEC schedule: Home vs. Alabama, Miss State, Texas, Texas A&M & at Arkansas, Auburn & Kentucky

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) November 30, 2025

salt level is high, damn

Ole Miss even put Kiffin's clothes in the street pic.twitter.com/VxmW7MTLkJ

— Ben Garrett (@SpiritBen) November 30, 2025

I feel bad for their fans. We beat them twice, too. Lol.

Crazy development.

I think if Tosh abandoned Oregon in similar fashion, that's not too dissimilar this Cal->UW move (though i understand that can be debated)

Tosh could prove those days are behind him by staying with Oregon until they are out.

And for those Cal fans who say "Hell No, he needs to get here and recruit now", could you ever pass judgment on tosh's move years ago ?

I know, you'll argue on technicalities. And that won't convince me.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/college-football/breaking-news/article/lane-kiffin-commits-to-be-lsus-next-coach-pete-golding-promoted-to-permanent-head-coach-at-ole-miss-200513231.html

GoCal80 said:

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Just wait half a dozen years and half the Ole Miss fans will be eager to hire him back.

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Just like us with Tosh, right? Nothing but scorn for that guy since 2011 and now some voices on this board think he's the Chosen One.

concordtom said:

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Crazy development.

I think if Tosh abandoned Oregon in similar fashion, that's not too dissimilar this Cal->UW move (though i understand that can be debated)

Tosh could prove those days are behind him by staying with Oregon until they are out.

And for those Cal fans who say "Hell No, he needs to get here and recruit now", could you ever pass judgment on tosh's move years ago ?

I know, you'll argue on technicalities. And that won't convince me.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/college-football/breaking-news/article/lane-kiffin-commits-to-be-lsus-next-coach-pete-golding-promoted-to-permanent-head-coach-at-ole-miss-200513231.html

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It's an entirely different story when it's a coordinator getting promoted to HC. Heck, even a G6 HC moving up to be HC at a P4 wouldn't be judged so harshly. The issue is when it's a relatively lateral move within conference.

No one, for example, is mad that Bama's assistant coach is leaving to be HC for Oregon State.

It's up to the employer to decide if they want to accept the resignation with time or immediatly. In this case, Ole Miss made the right decision to ask him to leave at once. Similarly, if Tosh takes our opening, it'll be up to UO to decide to keep him or let him go now. Usually, the best choice it to leave at once.

OM should have given him his walking papers weeks ago. No one interviews for a job they are not interested in. Just like with dating women - you're either 100% into this grizzledbear or I'm 100% out the door. Want to go look at other jobs? Wish granted, take 100% of the space and time you need cause the door is closed here. I'm prob really going to miss you, but bring in the next candidate. They needed more self respect in this soap opera. Sleep with pigs and you're going to get muddy. OM needs a good hire to get some of this filth off of them.

I think he never wanted to allow another tarmac conversation to happen, ever. So now he bails before its possible. He's flight when it comes to "fight or flight".

But where does he go from here? Every man strives to build something and leave a legacy. He could have built a legacy in Oxford, statues erected, buildings named after him, his name spoken forever in reverent tones...

But now he's just tending the store that 3 (or more) other coaches built to keep the LSU program stable and win YAC - yet another championship. He's riding coat tails. Someone else built the house, the foundation, the roof, picked the exterior colors. He's an interior designer at best. Round peg goes in round hole. He'll always be the 4th guy on that list who doesn't matter. He's going to leapfrog Saban's coaching legacy somehow?? Child, please. Bout the closest I think he'll get is a comparison to Orgeron who last won it 6 years ago. And we all know how much Big Ed has been in the college football conversation over the years, right? Will LSU give him 6 years to win his first championship? I think whatever it is, 90M?, allows LSU a lot of expectations and premeditated resentments.

Look what LSU did with Kelly - Kiffen will have down years in recruiting and NIL, and then what? 50/50 LSU sends him packing? Even FAU won't want him back at that point. He'll be as relevant as Bobby Petrino.

But its not about the money, right? Good on him, none of us would turn down that kinda money. He has a legacy of generational wealth now, but his personal legacy is already tarnished, how will his coaching legacy survive? And, is this helping LSU and their optics? Fans going to be buying more or less gear? Can they jack ticket prices up now and still fill the place? Does their fan base grow? And, what sort of new dynamics come into play when LSU travels next year? Especially into Tennessee and Oxford. What price glory....

Maybe college football will wake up and enact some changes for the integrity of the game. Interested to see how this is going to play out over the coming years.

The transfer portal is the big difference now for allowing coaches to stay or making them leave immediately. It's becoming the thing for coaches to bring a large number of their players (see Colorado and Indiana) so I can see wanting to minimize the face to face recruiting time. I can only imagine that many Ole Miss players will still enter the portal to see if they can follow their coaches.

Stay classy, Lane Kiffin.

bearsandgiants said:

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I feel bad for their fans. We beat them twice, too. Lol.

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In the Justin Wilcox era!

philly1121 said:

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GoCal80 said:

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Just wait half a dozen years and half the Ole Miss fans will be eager to hire him back.

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Just like us with Tosh, right? Nothing but scorn for that guy since 2011 and now some voices on this board think he's the Chosen One.

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Cal fans and Americans in general want to win so bad that they are willing to sell off their morals, principles, and ethics.

I used to have such a high opinion of Cal fans, but reading all the pro-Tosh dreck on this site makes me wonder if we have a trash fan base.

HistoryBear said:

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philly1121 said:

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GoCal80 said:

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Just wait half a dozen years and half the Ole Miss fans will be eager to hire him back.

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Just like us with Tosh, right? Nothing but scorn for that guy since 2011 and now some voices on this board think he's the Chosen One.

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Cal fans and Americans in general want to win so bad that they are willing to sell off their morals, principles, and ethics.

I used to have such a high opinion of Cal fans, but reading all the pro-Tosh dreck on this site makes me wonder if we have a trash fan base.

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How would you feel if Tofi brought other defensive recruits with him to Cal? Is that the same? Isn't that what recruits do they follow their coach that recruited them many times. Is my understanding of what happened wrong?

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OM should have given him his walking papers weeks ago. No one interviews for a job they are not interested in. Just like with dating women - you're either 100% into this grizzledbear or I'm 100% out the door. Want to go look at other jobs? Wish granted, take 100% of the space and time you need cause the door is closed here. I'm prob really going to miss you, but bring in the next candidate. They needed more self respect in this soap opera. Sleep with pigs and you're going to get muddy. OM needs a good hire to get some of this filth off of them.

I think he never wanted to allow another tarmac conversation to happen, ever. So now he bails before its possible. He's flight when it comes to "fight or flight".

But where does he go from here? Every man strives to build something and leave a legacy. He could have built a legacy in Oxford, statues erected, buildings named after him, his name spoken forever in reverent tones...

But now he's just tending the store that 3 (or more) other coaches built to keep the LSU program stable and win YAC - yet another championship. He's riding coat tails. Someone else built the house, the foundation, the roof, picked the exterior colors. He's an interior designer at best. Round peg goes in round hole. He'll always be the 4th guy on that list who doesn't matter. He's going to leapfrog Saban's coaching legacy somehow?? Child, please. Bout the closest I think he'll get is a comparison to Orgeron who last won it 6 years ago. And we all know how much Big Ed has been in the college football conversation over the years, right? Will LSU give him 6 years to win his first championship? I think whatever it is, 90M?, allows LSU a lot of expectations and premeditated resentments.

Look what LSU did with Kelly - Kiffen will have down years in recruiting and NIL, and then what? 50/50 LSU sends him packing? Even FAU won't want him back at that point. He'll be as relevant as Bobby Petrino.

But its not about the money, right? Good on him, none of us would turn down that kinda money. He has a legacy of generational wealth now, but his personal legacy is already tarnished, how will his coaching legacy survive? And, is this helping LSU and their optics? Fans going to be buying more or less gear? Can they jack ticket prices up now and still fill the place? Does their fan base grow? And, what sort of new dynamics come into play when LSU travels next year? Especially into Tennessee and Oxford. What price glory....

Maybe college football will wake up and enact some changes for the integrity of the game. Interested to see how this is going to play out over the coming years.

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In the scenario you recommend, which Cal stupidly did to Dykes, the firing school pays the buyout. In the other scenario, the new school/coach pays the old school the buyout. That is ideal for Ole Miss.

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HistoryBear said:

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philly1121 said:

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GoCal80 said:

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Just wait half a dozen years and half the Ole Miss fans will be eager to hire him back.

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Just like us with Tosh, right? Nothing but scorn for that guy since 2011 and now some voices on this board think he's the Chosen One.

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Cal fans and Americans in general want to win so bad that they are willing to sell off their morals, principles, and ethics.

I used to have such a high opinion of Cal fans, but reading all the pro-Tosh dreck on this site makes me wonder if we have a trash fan base.

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How would you feel if you brought Tofi and other defensive recruits with him to Cal? Is that the same? Isn't that what recruits do they follow their coach that recruited them many times. Is my understanding of what happened wrong?

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Tosh specifically screwed Cal back then not because he later swayed a recruit to leave Cal and join him at his new school but because he did it while literally on a recruiting trip for Cal before he even made his new job official. He also bailed with little notice and IIRC the reports were that he was scheduled to go on another recruiting trip with Tedford because he acted like Cal's counteroffer to keep him would be enough but basically ghosted him when he took the offer back to UW for more money and didn't show up to the airport or whatever. No heads up, no ability to alter plans, just left silently like a thief in the night.

And for the record, I'm open to him coming back and believe he could be honestly regretfully of the way he left and has become a more mature person now. Just want to make it clear what I understand happened when he left.

If most of the Mississippi player/employees transfer because they have no coach, …

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GrizzledBear said:

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OM should have given him his walking papers weeks ago. No one interviews for a job they are not interested in. Just like with dating women - you're either 100% into this grizzledbear or I'm 100% out the door. Want to go look at other jobs? Wish granted, take 100% of the space and time you need cause the door is closed here. I'm prob really going to miss you, but bring in the next candidate. They needed more self respect in this soap opera. Sleep with pigs and you're going to get muddy. OM needs a good hire to get some of this filth off of them.

I think he never wanted to allow another tarmac conversation to happen, ever. So now he bails before its possible. He's flight when it comes to "fight or flight".

But where does he go from here? Every man strives to build something and leave a legacy. He could have built a legacy in Oxford, statues erected, buildings named after him, his name spoken forever in reverent tones...

But now he's just tending the store that 3 (or more) other coaches built to keep the LSU program stable and win YAC - yet another championship. He's riding coat tails. Someone else built the house, the foundation, the roof, picked the exterior colors. He's an interior designer at best. Round peg goes in round hole. He'll always be the 4th guy on that list who doesn't matter. He's going to leapfrog Saban's coaching legacy somehow?? Child, please. Bout the closest I think he'll get is a comparison to Orgeron who last won it 6 years ago. And we all know how much Big Ed has been in the college football conversation over the years, right? Will LSU give him 6 years to win his first championship? I think whatever it is, 90M?, allows LSU a lot of expectations and premeditated resentments.

Look what LSU did with Kelly - Kiffen will have down years in recruiting and NIL, and then what? 50/50 LSU sends him packing? Even FAU won't want him back at that point. He'll be as relevant as Bobby Petrino.

But its not about the money, right? Good on him, none of us would turn down that kinda money. He has a legacy of generational wealth now, but his personal legacy is already tarnished, how will his coaching legacy survive? And, is this helping LSU and their optics? Fans going to be buying more or less gear? Can they jack ticket prices up now and still fill the place? Does their fan base grow? And, what sort of new dynamics come into play when LSU travels next year? Especially into Tennessee and Oxford. What price glory....

Maybe college football will wake up and enact some changes for the integrity of the game. Interested to see how this is going to play out over the coming years.

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In the scenario you recommend, which Cal stupidly did go Dykes, the firing school pays the buyout. In the other scenario, the new school/coach pays the old school the buyout. That is ideal for Ole Miss.

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100% firing a coach for interviewing elsewhere is stupid. Almost as stupid is extending a losing coach 6 years because he was interviewing and says he already turned them down,

concordtom said:

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Crazy development.

I think if Tosh abandoned Oregon in similar fashion, that's not too dissimilar this Cal->UW move (though i understand that can be debated)

Tosh could prove those days are behind him by staying with Oregon until they are out.

And for those Cal fans who say "Hell No, he needs to get here and recruit now", could you ever pass judgment on tosh's move years ago ?

I know, you'll argue on technicalities. And that won't convince me.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/college-football/breaking-news/article/lane-kiffin-commits-to-be-lsus-next-coach-pete-golding-promoted-to-permanent-head-coach-at-ole-miss-200513231.html

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Isn't this more like "tosh accepts Cal position, requests to remain on Oregon staff through playoffs. Oregon says no."?

"Lane takes LSU job but wants to coach Ole Miss (11-1 mind you) though the CFB playoffs."

GrizzledBear said:

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OM should have given him his walking papers weeks ago. No one interviews for a job they are not interested in. Just like with dating women - you're either 100% into this grizzledbear or I'm 100% out the door. Want to go look at other jobs? Wish granted, take 100% of the space and time you need cause the door is closed here. I'm prob really going to miss you, but bring in the next candidate. They needed more self respect in this soap opera. Sleep with pigs and you're going to get muddy. OM needs a good hire to get some of this filth off of them.

I think he never wanted to allow another tarmac conversation to happen, ever. So now he bails before its possible. He's flight when it comes to "fight or flight".

But where does he go from here? Every man strives to build something and leave a legacy. He could have built a legacy in Oxford, statues erected, buildings named after him, his name spoken forever in reverent tones...

But now he's just tending the store that 3 (or more) other coaches built to keep the LSU program stable and win YAC - yet another championship. He's riding coat tails. Someone else built the house, the foundation, the roof, picked the exterior colors. He's an interior designer at best. Round peg goes in round hole. He'll always be the 4th guy on that list who doesn't matter. He's going to leapfrog Saban's coaching legacy somehow?? Child, please. Bout the closest I think he'll get is a comparison to Orgeron who last won it 6 years ago. And we all know how much Big Ed has been in the college football conversation over the years, right? Will LSU give him 6 years to win his first championship? I think whatever it is, 90M?, allows LSU a lot of expectations and premeditated resentments.

Look what LSU did with Kelly - Kiffen will have down years in recruiting and NIL, and then what? 50/50 LSU sends him packing? Even FAU won't want him back at that point. He'll be as relevant as Bobby Petrino.

But its not about the money, right? Good on him, none of us would turn down that kinda money. He has a legacy of generational wealth now, but his personal legacy is already tarnished, how will his coaching legacy survive? And, is this helping LSU and their optics? Fans going to be buying more or less gear? Can they jack ticket prices up now and still fill the place? Does their fan base grow? And, what sort of new dynamics come into play when LSU travels next year? Especially into Tennessee and Oxford. What price glory....

Maybe college football will wake up and enact some changes for the integrity of the game. Interested to see how this is going to play out over the coming years.

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This is a pretty juicy post. I was just about to ask who "OM" was, then I went back and got it from the context (Ole Miss).

Kiffin is a mercenary so are all the parties here

Everyone is a hired gun. Everything else is false outrage. Kiffin went for the money. Like so many other coaches and like so may players now.

It'$ a bu$ine$$. Look at the stock market.

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concordtom said:

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Crazy development.

I think if Tosh abandoned Oregon in similar fashion, that's not too dissimilar this Cal->UW move (though i understand that can be debated)

Tosh could prove those days are behind him by staying with Oregon until they are out.

And for those Cal fans who say "Hell No, he needs to get here and recruit now", could you ever pass judgment on tosh's move years ago ?

I know, you'll argue on technicalities. And that won't convince me.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/college-football/breaking-news/article/lane-kiffin-commits-to-be-lsus-next-coach-pete-golding-promoted-to-permanent-head-coach-at-ole-miss-200513231.html

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Isn't this more like "tosh accepts Cal position, requests to remain on Oregon staff through playoffs. Oregon says no."?

"Lane takes LSU job but wants to coach Ole Miss (11-1 mind you) though the CFB playoffs."

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yeah, but Oregon and cal aren't rivals.

Full story here: https://t.co/VVMpmehtYO

— Avinash Kunnath (@avinashkunnath) December 1, 2025

The biggest news coming out of this whole @Lane_Kiffin thing is the allegation that @JuiceKiffin isn’t even Lane’s dog. This should be headline news.

Ole Miss and Lane faked him having a dog to make people like him? Or is it his dog?

— Brandon Walker (@BFW) December 1, 2025

I’m not trying to get ahead of myself, but I am wondering if dogs are allowed here? @Lane_Kiffin pic.twitter.com/j4j4LfYrUe

— Juice Kiffin (@JuiceKiffin) November 29, 2025

People are making Kiffin out to be the bad guy but this is college football today. It started with all the media money and then programs have become more cutthroat with firing coaches. Add in the money culture around NIL and how quickly and easily players can move from one program to another. It's a culture of no one is owed anything and it's fair to move as quickly as possible to seek the bigger payday for players, programs and coaches.

I get that there's a historic opportunity here with Ole Miss and the CFP, but this is the monster that most everyone in college football has created. They're lashing out at Kiffin for taking a move that serves his best interests. I don't even like Kiffin all that much but I think the guy has become a pariah while everyone looks past the ugliness of the money culture in CFB including how aggressively coaches are fired when they don't perform right away.

On Tosh, don't be surprised if we get left at the altar too. It would be awesome if Tosh came back, turned the program around, and brought us to national prominence.

But Tosh is going to do what's best for Tosh just like Kiffin did what's best for himself.

I'm just reading pipedreams here that "maybe Tosh was young and now has learned" and people taking back calling him a "traitor." He did what's best for himself. He'll come to Cal if it's best for himself. He'll leave Cal when it's best for himself.

And how will that happen? If he's turned us around and made us into a successful program, the best programs around the country will come knocking. And not only will they offer more money than we can but they'll also offer national prominence and reputation and ease of recruiting. This is why Kiffin went to LSU despite Ole Miss matching their comp package.

I'm not sh*t talking Tosh and I'm supportive of him coming back. But this is about survival of the program as quickly as possible. People shouldn't get confused and expect him to be a lifer here, let alone bring in a golden decade of Cal football. I'd assume he'd be here for about 4 years give or take. Either he'll be so successful that he'll get poached or he'll have failed and decided that he can find success elsewhere.

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People are making Kiffin out to be the bad guy but this is college football today. It started with all the media money and then programs have become more cutthroat with firing coaches. Add in the money culture around NIL and how quickly and easily players can move from one program to another. It's a culture of no one is owed anything and it's fair to move as quickly as possible to seek the bigger payday for players, programs and coaches.

I get that there's a historic opportunity here with Ole Miss and the CFP, but this is the monster that most everyone in college football has created. They're lashing out at Kiffin for taking a move that serves his best interests. I don't even like Kiffin all that much but I think the guy has become a pariah while everyone looks past the ugliness of the money culture in CFB including how aggressively coaches are fired when they don't perform right away.

On Tosh, don't be surprised if we get left at the altar too. It would be awesome if Tosh came back, turned the program around, and brought us to national prominence.

But Tosh is going to do what's best for Tosh just like Kiffin did what's best for himself.

I'm just reading pipedreams here that "maybe Tosh was young and now has learned" and people taking back calling him a "traitor." He did what's best for himself. He'll come to Cal if it's best for himself. He'll leave Cal when it's best for himself.

And how will that happen? If he's turned us around and made us into a successful program, the best programs around the country will come knocking. And not only will they offer more money than we can but they'll also offer national prominence and reputation and ease of recruiting. This is why Kiffin went to LSU despite Ole Miss matching their comp package.

I'm not sh*t talking Tosh and I'm supportive of him coming back. But this is about survival of the program as quickly as possible. People shouldn't get confused and expect him to be a lifer here, let alone bring in a golden decade of Cal football. I'd assume he'd be here for about 4 years give or take. Either he'll be so successful that he'll get poached or he'll have failed and decided that he can find success elsewhere.

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If Tosh gets us to the playoffs and bails, I wouldn't be one bit pissed off. Better to have a great coach that is worthy of getting poached than a trash coach that accomplished nothing for a decade