Sometimes getting a right handed throw makes a difference. Receivers are used to the spin
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Sure a lot of *****ing and moaning after a win considering how many players are hurt.
Go Bears!
Go Bears!
Yeah some but that last drive was ridiculousCal88 said:We got some bad calls too.Strykur said:MinotStateBeav said:
Congrats bears, but this is the least satisfying W to me
I cannot recall after any Cal win feeling as deflated as I am right now, we got favorable calls all the way the last 90 seconds
We often lose games like this, nice to win one.
MinotStateBeav said:
Congrats bears, but this is the least satisfying W to me,
the coaching staff needs to do a lot of self reflection
Brosseau..you were the MVP
I thought McCann was great after starting out bad through most of the first half. I thought Hutchings was great with the exception of going to Hail Mary defense too soon, though i doubt that play only took 2 seconds off the clock to get 20 yards. Tosh's game management decision making was poor.
Lost my voice, crowd was great. And Bears win!!
nikeykid said:
Lost my voice, crowd was great. And Bears win!!
What?
could have been PI in end zone, as Cam tackled the receiver when the ball arrived and never looked back....
How sweet it is!!
Strykur said:I cannot recall after any Cal win feeling as deflated as I am right now, we got favorable calls all the way the last 90 secondsMinotStateBeav said:
Congrats bears, but this is the least satisfying W to me
Any long suffering Cal fan knew in their heart that this was going to be another moral victory loss. Cal loses games like that 10-10 times. I'M ECSTATIC!
“Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside”
—Jim Morrison
“I love Cal deeply, by the way, what are the directions to The Portal from Sproul Plaza?”
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside”
—Jim Morrison
“I love Cal deeply, by the way, what are the directions to The Portal from Sproul Plaza?”
calumnus said:MinotStateBeav said:
Congrats bears, but this is the least satisfying W to me,
the coaching staff needs to do a lot of self reflection
Brosseau..you were the MVP
I thought McCann was great after starting out bad through most of the first half. I thought Hutchings was great with the exception of going to Hail Mary defense too soon, though i doubt that play only took 2 seconds off the clock to get 20 yards. Tosh's game management decision making was poor.
First half 3rd down play calls left a lot to be desired. They had almost no shot of giving us first downs and extending the drives even if blocked correctly. Second half was excellent.
I don't know who's responsible for game management but we have to stop doing squibs at the end, we're just giving the other teams offense the ball at nearly midfield every time. Have faith in your KO coverage unit.
Stanford gave up another 58 today. Ouch.
Grrrrah76 said:
could have been PI in end zone, as Cam tackled the receiver when the ball arrived and never looked back....
In fairness refs tend to swallow whistles at the end of games like that. Dbs can face guard in college, it's a bad practice though, we should be teaching our guys to turn and find the ball.
Boot said:
Stanford gave up another 58 today. Ouch.
Stanford is so poor right now, I wonder how long the Luck experiment lasts.
Cal88 said:Strykur said:MinotStateBeav said:
Congrats bears, but this is the least satisfying W to me
I cannot recall after any Cal win feeling as deflated as I am right now, we got favorable calls all the way the last 90 seconds
We got some bad calls too.
Yeah didn't we get a penalty called against us on the last drive for 15 yards?
Strykur said:I cannot recall after any Cal win feeling as deflated as I am right now, we got favorable calls all the way the last 90 secondsMinotStateBeav said:
Congrats bears, but this is the least satisfying W to me
We got some; they got some.
Take the win!
Can I just say how stupid the targeting rule is...I'm sorry, Tuitele may have 'targeted' by the rule, but the spirit of the rule, no way. To me there has to be some common sense on the field and say was there some kind of intent to injure.
MinotStateBeav said:calumnus said:MinotStateBeav said:
Congrats bears, but this is the least satisfying W to me,
the coaching staff needs to do a lot of self reflection
Brosseau..you were the MVP
I thought McCann was great after starting out bad through most of the first half. I thought Hutchings was great with the exception of going to Hail Mary defense too soon, though i doubt that play only took 2 seconds off the clock to get 20 yards. Tosh's game management decision making was poor.
First half 3rd down play calls left a lot to be desired. They had almost no shot of giving us first downs and extending the drives even if blocked correctly. Second half was excellent.
Not to mention the bad calls (especially running on first down for negative yards) that put us into third long in the first place.
Once we started changing up and completng passes in the middle of the field off play action for big gains on first down the offense started rolling with tosses outside, passes underneath and then eventually even the run up the middle opened up. Plus lots of outright trickery. I also like that once we started moving the ball we went tempo, putting the defense back on their heals.
MinotStateBeav said:Boot said:
Stanford gave up another 58 today. Ouch.
Stanford is so poor right now, I wonder how long the Luck experiment lasts.
I'd guess at least another season, but they may be forced to make some very tough decisions in a realignment scenario.
MinotStateBeav said:
Can I just say how stupid the targeting rule is...I'm sorry, Tuitele may have 'targeted' by the rule, but the spirit of the rule, no way.
100%
Isnt there another rule for "helmet to helmet" contact? Because he absolutely lead with his forearm.
MinotStateBeav said:
Can I just say how stupid the targeting rule is...I'm sorry, Tuitele may have 'targeted' by the rule, but the spirit of the rule, no way. To me there has to be some common sense on the field and say was there some kind of intent to injure.
I think it has the best intentions in the world, but sometimes the head arrives first on a play like that. It's not intentional, but it happens.
calumnus said:MinotStateBeav said:
Can I just say how stupid the targeting rule is...I'm sorry, Tuitele may have 'targeted' by the rule, but the spirit of the rule, no way.
100%
Isnt there another rule for "helmet to helmet" contact? Because he absolutely lead with his forearm.
Maybe, it's just these guys are flying on the field and helmets or arms or whatever can accidentally touch the helmet with no intent to injure the person. I mean offensive linemen go helmet to helmet every play...and we understand that's just normal play with no intent.
14-3, with a naty. Now that the frauds texas and oregon have been exposed, the path is clear.
Bobodeluxe said:
14-3, with a naty. Now that the frauds texas and oregon have been exposed, the path is clear.
There is now a path.
I saw lots of garbage refereeing this game. Endless holding non-calls. Completely missed a VT targeting on that last drive before half time. Borderline calls that were inconsistently called against us and not VT.
Personally thought that the last play was bang bang and only looked like PI in slow motion replay. Either way, I've seen so many garbage bad calls on us or non calls benefit our opponents, I'm not going to waste any time bemoaning a close call on that last play.
Personally thought that the last play was bang bang and only looked like PI in slow motion replay. Either way, I've seen so many garbage bad calls on us or non calls benefit our opponents, I'm not going to waste any time bemoaning a close call on that last play.
Just finished watching the Cal game and a couple of things of note. The play calling was noticeably better. We used the run to keep Va. Tech honest which allowed for a mixture of short passes that acted as runs as well as some downfield throws. The defense had a couple of untimely penalties and had a couple of instances where they were late getting off the field and looked a little confused getting lined up before Va Tech hiked the ball. The offense still had some dropped balls which they need to get corrected. The key is the play calling was better and they closed.
ninetyfourbear said:
I saw lots of garbage refereeing this game. Endless holding non-calls. Completely missed a VT targeting on that last drive before half time. Borderline calls that were inconsistently called against us and not VT.
Personally thought that the last play was bang bang and only looked like PI in slow motion replay. Either way, I've seen so many garbage bad calls on us or non calls befit our opponents, I'm not going to waste any time bemoaning a close call on that last play.
Refs like to swallow their whistles on the final play so it's gotta be super egregious to draw a flag and it wasn't.
Too many times the defense is not wrapping up. I see too many players just thinking brute force and impact will knock the player down only to be surprised to see they didn't achieve their goal and the offensive player goes for another 10 yards. There has to be better technique
Finally... finally, the other team falls victim to a fake punt instead of us!
McCann with trickery twice? Gutsy calls, great timing.
FTR, I read up on McCann several times years ago (WR coach at Davis) and observed him from afar on Social media, interviews, etc. The non-football observation that hit me was that he appeared to really connect authentically with players. He came off as youthful and energetic. Granted, he was young then.
His wife was doing an Instagram thing, and he had a prime time WR in humble star Keelan Doss (4 years in the NFL). So at Davis he got to learn at a successful FCS program who's coaching tree and philosophies fed Oregon (Bellotti, Alioti) and Boise State (Hawkins, Peterson). I'm sure he interfaced a lot with longtime HC Bob Biggs.
Congrats to Coach McCann.
FTR, I read up on McCann several times years ago (WR coach at Davis) and observed him from afar on Social media, interviews, etc. The non-football observation that hit me was that he appeared to really connect authentically with players. He came off as youthful and energetic. Granted, he was young then.
His wife was doing an Instagram thing, and he had a prime time WR in humble star Keelan Doss (4 years in the NFL). So at Davis he got to learn at a successful FCS program who's coaching tree and philosophies fed Oregon (Bellotti, Alioti) and Boise State (Hawkins, Peterson). I'm sure he interfaced a lot with longtime HC Bob Biggs.
Congrats to Coach McCann.
calumnus said:MinotStateBeav said:
Can I just say how stupid the targeting rule is...I'm sorry, Tuitele may have 'targeted' by the rule, but the spirit of the rule, no way.
100%
Isnt there another rule for "helmet to helmet" contact? Because he absolutely lead with his forearm.
I was watching from the stadium but I swear it looked like the forearm led and landed first. I didn't even see significant helmet contact but I'd certainly take another look at it if there's a clip of the play.
I'm willing to admit when targeting might be warranted but that looked cleaner to me than either UNLV targeting call.
BearNIt said:
Just finished watching the Cal game and a couple of things of note. The play calling was noticeably better. We used the run to keep Va. Tech honest which allowed for a mixture of short passes that acted as runs as well as some downfield throws. The defense had a couple of untimely penalties and had a couple of instances where they were late getting off the field and looked a little confused getting lined up before Va Tech hiked the ball. The offense still had some dropped balls which they need to get corrected. The key is the play calling was better and they closed.
Honestly, a lot of the best routes today were available previously, but JKS wouldn't make the throw. Especially over the middle
I was at the game so I missed most of the chatter in this thread. At the game we were just dumbfounded how poorly the last 18 seconds of the game were handled, starting with the kickoff, and ending with that bizarro lining up of the players at the goal line, leaving a huge swath of land unoccupied and letting them easily get down to the seven yard line.
Anyway, sometimes after an interesting game I'll go to fan sites of other teams that might have been paying attention to our game (for example, future opponents) to see what they had to say. I just went to a Virginia forum, and they were delighted that VT lost again in controversial fashion. But boy did they notice how badly Cal handled the end of the game. I took a screenshot of some of their comments--they're pretty brutal and deserved:
Anyway, sometimes after an interesting game I'll go to fan sites of other teams that might have been paying attention to our game (for example, future opponents) to see what they had to say. I just went to a Virginia forum, and they were delighted that VT lost again in controversial fashion. But boy did they notice how badly Cal handled the end of the game. I took a screenshot of some of their comments--they're pretty brutal and deserved:
They don't comprehend GENIUS. 14-3, with a naty.
I'm sure they don't teach that, but it's lazy and there needs to be accountability. You do a half assed job at work and you get fired. Same should be true with NIL. Earn it.
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