Disclaimer: Obviously, this topic will be loaded with speculation and is just for fun.

We've had four players drafted in the first round for the past three years. Which of this year's players is going to be the next to accomplish this? Trevor Guyton helping establish a new Tosh tradition? Marvin Jones to help a pro passing game and special teams? A Sade-fueled Mychal Kendricks? Or will we have to wait for Keenan Allen in the 2013 Draft?

Keenan has the best chance to go next on our team and even he isnt a sure fire first rounder. I don't see any of the seniors going in the first round this year.

We don't have anyone draft eligible who is better than a 4th or 5th rounder.

alarsuel;584597 said:

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We don't have anyone draft eligible who is better than a 4th or 5th rounder.

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Lots of early mock drafts have Mychal Kendricks going in the 3rd round. Not saying it's certain to happen but it's very possible. Jones is currently projected in the 5-7 round range but he has a good shot to move up based on the season he's having.

I expect to see quite a few of our seniors get drafted, Just don't know if any of them will be first rounders (highly doubt it). However FWIW, i did see a mock in the summer that had sean cattouse going in the late first round.

goldenjax;584601 said:

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I expect to see quite a few of our seniors get drafted, Just don't know if any of them will be first rounders (highly doubt it). However FWIW, i did see a mock in the summer that had sean cattouse going in the late first round.

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That's humorous.

I really don't know where our next #1 pick is coming from. It's a pretty damning statement about the shape of our recruiting from '07-'09.

No one in this year's draft class will be a #1 pick. I expect this will be one of our more scant draft classes. I predict Jones will go in the 4th, Kendricks in the 5th and Guyton going late on the second day. Schwartz gets FA looks and maybe catches with someone. Anger will get picked up too.

Obviously Keenan Allen is the guy most likely to climb up into the first round among our current contributors. He's got an NFL body, and with Jones gone (along with Calvin and Miller) he will put up simply crazy numbers next year. Maynard already has tunnel-vision for his brother and that's with a plethora of other receiving options out there. KA has a good chance of breaking every single season receiving mark Cal has in '12. I do wonder about how his track speed will affect his standing. NFL GMs sure do love those 40 times.

If not Allen, I'd just gamble on betting Moala. The defensive line is the premier draft position in the league today and if Moala fulfills his potential he will go very early.

anger 31st overall you heard it here first

goldenjax;584601 said:

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I expect to see quite a few of our seniors get drafted, Just don't know if any of them will be first rounders (highly doubt it). However FWIW, i did see a mock in the summer that had sean cattouse going in the late first round.

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The stuff I've seen has Cattouse ranked as around the 15th-20th best safety in this year's draft class. Not bad, but given the low priority most teams have for safeties, that will not get you drafted on day 1 OR day 2 of the draft. That's day 3 territory.

Oh, I thought you meant the MLS draft:rollinglaugh:

Anger 16. You heard it here first.

alarsuel;584597 said:

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We don't have anyone draft eligible who is better than a 4th or 5th rounder.

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Sorry to upset your worldview, but you're wrong. Kendricks will go in the 2nd or 3rd. I'm willing to bet on it if you are.

I think most of our future 1st rounders (besides KA21) are either freshmen or playing in highschool right now

Keenan Allen, as previously mentioned. By far and away our best player, but not a sure first round pick yet.

After that, probably Moala, again, as mentioned. Maybe Treggs, if he turns into the Desean type player that we expect him to be.

Mychal Kendricks. Cal guys tend to move up once the NFL gets a chance to look at them individually.

and thus the problem. All the "we have plenty of talent" posters should read this thread, as speculative as it may be...

I could definitely see Kendricks slipping into the 2nd or 3rd round. He's got a decent chance to be in the top 5 in tackles in the conference this year, and led the conference in TFLs last year. And unlike a lot of LB overachievers, he's got decent NFL size and speed.

I think Schwartz has a decent chance of going drafted as well. He's been a steady 4 year starter.

I'm a huge Allen fan and I would say he would be the guy. However, I bet he slips a bit due to his 40 time not turning out spectacular. Anger? I hope you all are joking. Will he get drafted?

89Bear;584670 said:

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I'm a huge Allen fan and I would say he would be the guy. However, I bet he slips a bit due to his 40 time not turning out spectacular. Anger? I hope you all are joking. Will he get drafted?

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If I remember correctly, Kiper listed him as a top 5 punter [maybe even first] this year. So, there's that.

NM

BlueAndGold;584707 said:

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If I remember correctly, Kiper listed him as a top 5 punter [maybe even first] this year. So, there's that.

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What Kiper says and what goes down on draft day are not the same thing...

Anger does have a huge leg. He is slow getting it off, and is not consistent. He has always gotten a lot of hype, but his production has not matched.

Last I checked he was Kiper's number 1 punter.

Kendricks is the only upperclassman with the talent to go high in the draft. Unlikely to go first round, but could definitely be in the first few rounds. Jones would be the #2 guy, but most 1st round receivers tend to be pretty special physically. Whether that means size, or speed, or both...don't think Marv has enough of either to go 1st roun, even if he continues to have a very good season and his production impresses NFL scouts. Relatively speaking, Anger probably is the biggest talent on the team, but obviously no punter will ever be drafted high (by the way, his mid-40's punting average is nice, so not sure why his production is being questioned)...

maxer;584632 said:

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Sorry to upset your worldview, but you're wrong. Kendricks will go in the 2nd or 3rd. I'm willing to bet on it if you are.

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Kiper listed Kendricks as one of his Top-5 most underrated prospects. Wouldn't be surprised if he went as early as the second round though I wouldn't exactly bet on it.

Forgot to mention Cattouse. It doesn't surprise me that he's listed fairly high on a preliminary draft status. He seems to have pretty good potential - big hitter with solid size/speed, and would definitely be the kind of player NFL scouts would keep track of. As they see film of him this year, though, it'll probably be clear that he hasn't taken the steps forward we hoped and is weak in coverage (at least it seems that way so far this season), which means he'll start dropping.

hanky1;584794 said:

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Kiper listed Kendricks as one of his Top-5 most underrated prospects. Wouldn't be surprised if he went as early as the second round though I wouldn't exactly bet on it.

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Exactly. I could see Kendricks going as high as 1st round. I wouldn't bet on it, though - it's more likely a guy falls than rises. There are only so many first round spots available, and a whole lot more spots later on in the draft.

No first rounders for 2012 NFL draft.

Drafted
Kendricks
Schwartz
Jones

Possibly drafted
Anger
Cattouse
Guyton
Miller

As always combine will determine rounds. I think Schwartz is vastly underated here and I see him as 4th/5th round pick right now. Kendricks is 3rd/4th round pick at the moment. Cattouse has the physical talent but his instincts aren't where they need to be so he could be a 6th round 7th round guy.

Jones has a high ceiling he could have the largest leap of all the players. He was a FA before this year. Now he's played into the 5th round imo. His body control is remarkable and reminds me somewhat of Sean Dawkins.

As for KA he needs to work on his speed and his build. He's a great possesion receiver but his lack of speed is what will likely kill 1st round possibilities.

If Treggs is our next 1st rounder then we are in trouble.

I like Kendricks and all, but he will need to show exceptional measurables (ie. 40 time) at the combine to go in the first two days (rounds 1-3). Last year only 10 LBs were drafted in the first three rounds. And NFL teams tend to focus more on edge/outside LBs than middle/inside LBs. Lastly there's the height issue. Yes, there have been LBs successful in the NFL with his height. But it will ding him in the evaluation process. A lot of NFL teams are going to look at him and doubt whether he can carry 265 lbs on his frame - and that's what NFL teams want from a inside/middle LB. If he runs very well at Indy, teams might look at him on the outside.

Cal84;584818 said:

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I like Kendricks and all, but he will need to show exceptional measurables (ie. 40 time) at the combine to go in the first two days (rounds 1-3). Last year only 10 LBs were drafted in the first three rounds. And NFL teams tend to focus more on edge/outside LBs than middle/inside LBs. Lastly there's the height issue. Yes, there have been LBs successful in the NFL with his height. But it will ding him in the evaluation process. A lot of NFL teams are going to look at him and doubt whether he can carry 265 lbs on his frame - and that's what NFL teams want from a inside/middle LB. If he runs very well at Indy, teams might look at him on the outside.

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Keep in mind Kendricks was a productive OLB in a rush LB situation last year. I doubt teams will be looking at him solely as a MLB. He's shown MLB traits - like being a factor in the run game and tackling with power, but also athleticism and rush ability as an OLB. I think he'll be looked at as a versatile player like people viewed Aaron Curry a few years ago (that he seems to be a bust isn't relevant to the point/comparison). Maybe even a good fit for a cover 2 WOLB.

As for measurables, do you really think Kendricks is that short? A guy like Patrick Willis is listed at a similar size. I think plenty of LB's are around 6'0 or so, right? I don't expect Kendricks to blow people away with 4.4 speed or anything, but I do think he'll have solid measurables. I think he's the most athletic LB we've had in recent years, including the likes of Follett, Bishop, and Felder.

Cal84;584818 said:

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I like Kendricks and all, but he will need to show exceptional measurables (ie. 40 time) at the combine to go in the first two days (rounds 1-3). Last year only 10 LBs were drafted in the first three rounds. And NFL teams tend to focus more on edge/outside LBs than middle/inside LBs. Lastly there's the height issue. Yes, there have been LBs successful in the NFL with his height. But it will ding him in the evaluation process. A lot of NFL teams are going to look at him and doubt whether he can carry 265 lbs on his frame - and that's what NFL teams want from a inside/middle LB. If he runs very well at Indy, teams might look at him on the outside.

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Agree. Kendricks reminds me a bit of our former LB, Worrell Williams, but with better speed and better instincts. We'll get a really good idea where he'll be drafted when he runs the 40 at the combines: A 4.7/4.8 like Desmond Bishop will get him drafted about where Bishop was (6th round, IIRC). A 4.6-something gets him moving up the charts (though if his height turns out to be 5-11 1/2, that's another obstacle).

Just wondering... Supposing he's a 4.60 guy: How would he have been at running back?

RaphaelAglietti;584801 said:

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No first rounders for 2012 NFL draft.

Drafted
Kendricks
Schwartz
Jones

Possibly drafted
Anger
Cattouse
Guyton
Miller

As always combine will determine rounds. I think Schwartz is vastly underated here and I see him as 4th/5th round pick right now. Kendricks is 3rd/4th round pick at the moment. Cattouse has the physical talent but his instincts aren't where they need to be so he could be a 6th round 7th round guy.

Jones has a high ceiling he could have the largest leap of all the players. He was a FA before this year. Now he's played into the 5th round imo. His body control is remarkable and reminds me somewhat of Sean Dawkins.

As for KA he needs to work on his speed and his build. He's a great possesion receiver but his lack of speed is what will likely kill 1st round possibilities.

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Forgot about Miller. There's a great chance Miller gets drafted if he gets attention during the season and shows off his receiving ability. Kiper was really high on him as a junior but cooled off after a season where he barely got looks in the receiving game.

StillNoStanfurdium;585070 said:

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Forgot about Miller. There's a great chance Miller gets drafted if he gets attention during the season and shows off his receiving ability. Kiper was really high on him as a junior but cooled off after a season where he barely got looks in the receiving game.

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Miller dropped a bunch of passes last year; the NFL likes consistency, especially in its TEs. Of course, he doesn't get a lot of opportunities to shine with our current target distribution, but he's had a few drops already this year. Plus, as dangerous as he potentially is as a pass-catcher, he's certainly no beast in the run block department.

I'd love to see Miller get drafted. I think he has NFL talent, but I just don't think he's going to get it put together in time.

RaphaelAglietti;584801 said:

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No first rounders for 2012 NFL draft.

Drafted
Kendricks
Schwartz
Jones

Possibly drafted
Anger
Cattouse
Guyton
Miller

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+1 on no 1st rounders in the next NFL draft.


Cattouse = this year's Thomas Decoud. Both big hitters. Similar size & speed. Both mad inconsistent...go back & forth between brilliant & horrible. Decoud was very good against the run but his pass defense was not so good. Cattouse is below average against the run, but he can be great against the pass...when he's on. When he's not, he looks bad, missing easy tackles, being in wrong position, getting run over. He will get drafted somewhere in the 5-7th rd.


Miller is also very inconsistent, making brilliant catches one minute and dropping easy passes. Same goes for his blocking. Inconsistent. He looks heavy and slow on the field for some reason. What happened to this guy?