Joe Announces His Retirement - Page 2

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In reply to bigtuba1 • 2:14p, 11/9/11

He doesn't deserve retirement. He should be fired, then sued into poverty.

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2:15p, 11/9/11

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;619731 said:</div><hr>this argument isn't whether paterno will go to jail. it seems he will not. it's whether putting him in jail will protect future children. and i'd argue it would.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Please explain to me how putting him in jail will protect future children? So instead of him witnessing molestation and only reporting it to the AD, you'd rather have nobody witness it?

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In reply to philly1121 • 2:22p, 11/9/11

<blockquote><div class="name-said">philly1121;619746 said:</div><hr>Phantom, I think the issue isn't whether he should go to jail. He met his legal responsibility to report what was reported to him. Fine. <br /><br />What is in question is whether he should lose his job over this. I contend that he should and that he should not be allowed to determine, on his own, when he should step away. You believe that tenure prevents his firing. I believe that this is the issue that the Board of Trustees is deciding, along with firing the university president.<br /><br />To me, the choices are:<br /><br />1. Let him finish it out as the head coach.<br />2. Let him finish it out but not be on the sideline or the booth either at home or away.<br />3. Fire him and face a lawsuit. They probably had the "force him to step away/resign" option taken from them when he announced he would retire at the end of the season. <br /><br />In my opinion, this was a very d*ck move on his part as he is now forcing the Board of Trustees to make a decision on his terms.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Actually, the discussion I got involved was ENTIRELY that he "would" go to jail, and that what he failed to do was illegal...<br /><br />If the question is "should it be illegal" my opinion is that it should be... <br /><br /><br />I liked Paterno right up until I found out that there was a monster trolling the building right up to the final day...<br /><br />At a minimum Paterno should be on Admin leave until it is sorted. Additionally, EVERYONE that is not an athlete in the program should be forced out.

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In reply to BeachyBear • 2:24p, 11/9/11

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BeachyBear;619751 said:</div><hr>He doesn't deserve retirement. He should be fired, then sued into poverty.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Hopefully the school does not try to pay his legal costs...<br /><br />I would guess that because it happened while he was employed they will, though... <br /><br />Still, I can hope.

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In reply to Phantomfan • 2:28p, 11/9/11

I'm agreeing with you up until the point that you say tenure precludes firing. They could kick him off the sideline right now if they want to.

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In reply to pingpong2 • 2:31p, 11/9/11

I think he's saying that if you put Joe Pa in jail it would really wake people up to the fact that this kind of thing may be occuring on your own watch, that it is serious, and that we're serious about stopping it. If you're told it's happening, you need to report it. I'd have to agree.

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In reply to Phantomfan • 2:37p, 11/9/11

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Phantomfan;619519 said:</div><hr><b>He is tenured.</b><br /><b>At Penn State coaches, after serveing for a certain number of years, are granted tenure, same (rights) as professors</b>. )<hr></blockquote><br /><br />At least Tedford isn't tenured...<br /><br />"Things could always be worse"

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In reply to BeachyBear • 2:44p, 11/9/11

It's ridiculous that he's allowed to coach another game.

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In reply to Davidson • 3:01p, 11/9/11

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Davidson;619791 said:</div><hr>It's ridiculous that he's allowed to coach another game.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I agree. How could Penn State even think to allow that. I found this from Huffington Post on Joe announcing his retirement. Apparently, it was without the sanction of the University. He simply did this on his own:<br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">Quote:</div><hr>Joe Schad is on SportsCenter via telephone, reacting to Paterno's announcement:<br /><br />"This is, I believe, a strong strategic play by Joe Paterno. An attempt to call his own shot," he said. "This is a statement not being put out by the university, but by Joe Paterno. And of course it will be the board of trustees that will ultimately decide if they will honor his wish, as he says to end his career with dignity and determination. He wants to go out on his own terms."<hr></blockquote><br /><br />If I was on the Board, the retirement announcement would eliminate all doubt for me, that he should be fired.

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In reply to philly1121 • 3:36p, 11/9/11

<blockquote><div class="name-said">philly1121;619804 said:</div><hr>I agree. How could Penn State even think to allow that. I found this from Huffington Post on Joe announcing his retirement. Apparently, it was without the sanction of the University. He simply did this on his own:<br /><br /><br /><br />If I was on the Board, the retirement announcement would eliminate all doubt for me, that he should be fired.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Yep. Even the statement said that the board shouldn't waste another moment thinking about this. In other words, "I've made the decision. I'm finishing this season. I'm Joe F-ckin Paterno. Bow to me, minions."

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10:43p, 11/9/11