Somewhere, Mike Judge is laughing (if he wasn't already thanks to the successful re-launch of Beavis and Butthead) <br /><br />State College's riots suggest "Idiocracy" is coming true.

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<blockquote><div class="name-said">okaydo;619966 said:</div><hr>Will there be rioting at PSU?<hr></blockquote>Yes!

What does it say about society when you're accused of having "no class" because you were fired due to not reporting a 10 year old child being raped by a grown man.<br /><br />People need to wake the f*ck up. All these people who are rioting and saying it's wrong to fire JoePa probably do not have children of their own. If you had children, you would feel, in your gut, the outrage against anyone involved in this kind of cover up.

Kutcher has deleted that tweet. <br /><br />He doesn't apparently follow the news.<br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" />" />" />

<blockquote><div class="name-said">okaydo;620061 said:</div><hr><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" />" />" /><hr></blockquote><br /><br />Doesn't this moron have some sort of foundation with his wife trying to stop world wide child prostitution? Yet he thinks firing Joe Pa because he protected a child rapist is wrong?<br /><br />Edit: I see he didn't know the full story. He's still an idiot.

<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" />" />" /><br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">SoCalBear323;620077 said:</div><hr>Doesn't this moron have some sort of foundation with his wife trying to stop world wide child prostitution? Yet he thinks firing Joe Pa because he protected a child rapist is wrong?<br /><br />Edit: I see he didn't know the full story. 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<blockquote><div class="name-said">FingeroftheBear;620028 said:</div><hr>You know I was wondering, how the heck did Sandusky get an office on campus after "retirement". It was like he had emeritus status, as a freaking DC. WTF.<hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Are you asking if he had emeritus status? Is so, yes, he did.

Glad I'm a Cal grad. That is all.<br /><br />Goodnight Bears!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">okaydo;619996 said:</div><hr>Really, this news is so big I think ESPN should cancel College Gameday this week.<br /><br />It just wouldnt' be right to have the Stanford band and tree celebrating during this solemn time.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Goodness knows I'm no fan of the LSJUMB, but imagine if they played Penn State this Saturday!

Hopefully some good will come out of this. I would expect there are several people going to bed right now knowing they should come forward and report a friend, collegue, or parent who is a child abuser.<br /><br />I was surprised to hear 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys are sexually abused at some point in their lives. 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<blockquote><div class="name-said">okaydo;620040 said:</div><hr>From Jon Wertheim, Sports Illustrated:<br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" />" />" /><hr></blockquote><br /><br />I guess they're roaring?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">elpbear;619983 said:</div><hr>This is all obviously a giant hoax. After all, Phantomfan assured us that Paterno could not be fired.<hr></blockquote><br />Obviously they agreed with people here that the risk of a law suit was small (something I had not thought of).

Wonder if Saturday's PSU-Neb game gets moved to Lincoln at some point tomorrow....

<blockquote><div class="name-said">510Bear;620187 said:</div><hr>Wonder if Saturday's PSU-Neb game gets moved to Lincoln at some point tomorrow....<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Kids might REALLY riot over that.

Why is McQuary (the graduate assistant) still around?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;620237 said:</div><hr>judging from the press conference i'm thinking he wont be around for long.<hr></blockquote><br />That would be the way I'm thinking too. McQueary was no kid, he was 28 years old when all this happened, and an ex college-qb. He had the physical stature to confront Sandusky at the time he witnessed the sodomy, had he the testicular fortitude to do so. Instead, he ran scared, called Daddy, then JoePa. JoePa immediately setup a meeting with AD Curley that occurred the next day.<br /><br />It really wasn't this sequence that is so unforgivable. They were both told in that meeting by Curley that he would 'take care of the matter from here'. Curley was supervisor of campus police and had access to all the formal reporting infrastructure as a nominal part of his job.<br /><br />The unforgivable part is that neither man followed up. Neither man EVER looked after the welfare of the those kids, even though they surely saw Sandusky on-site again on multiple occasions and probably with other kids in tow. For that lack of initiative, they deserve to pay with their jobs.

has some leverage. Don't know if that is why he hasn't been fired yet but he was the one (so far) eye witness to Sandusky's acts and thus is a key player for the prosecution. I'm sure they want to be careful to cut a deal with him so that they can give Sandusky the maximum punishment. Who knows when they will be satisfied that there is no more to get out of McQueary. After that he will be gone from coaching for good.

Interesting point. Not sure how much leverage he has. He's given his testimony. If he changes his story how, he's going to go to jail. They have victims that have come forward. I think PSU can safely can him.

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<blockquote><div class="name-said">82gradDLSdad;620797 said:</div><hr>has some leverage. Don't know if that is why he hasn't been fired yet but he was the one (so far) eye witness to Sandusky's acts and thus is a key player for the prosecution. I'm sure they want to be careful to cut a deal with him so that they can give Sandusky the maximum punishment. Who knows when they will be satisfied that there is no more to get out of McQueary. After that he will be gone from coaching for good.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />There is no chance McQueary gets prosecuted for anything other than perjury.<br /><br />And Penn State probably hasn't fired McQueary yet because: 1) they still want control over this situation (criminal and civil litigation, plus federal investigations) and having McQueary on staff (as a material witness) is far better than having McQueary (as a material witness) who just got fired; and 2) they'd get sued by McQueary. Keep in mind that this is a University that just fired its President and has its AD and a VP chaged with perjury. Covering up is what they are naturaly inclined to do.<br /><br />Penn State is similarly pissing their pants over the potential testimony that the AD Curley and the VP Schultz have to offer.<br /><br />Also, Barry Switzer is on record saying that: <br /><br />"Having been in this profession a long time and knowing how close coaching staffs are, I knew that this was a secret that was kept secret," Switzer said. "Everyone on that staff had to have known, the ones that had been around a long time."<br /><br />"You think that a 13-year assistant hasn't told someone else?" Switzer said. "His wife? His father? People knew. The community knew."<br /><br />"There are more people culpable than just Joe Paterno and the athletic director," Switzer said via telephone while traveling in Texas. "There are so many other people that have thought, 'I could've done something about this, too' that didn't come forward. That's the tragedy of it."<br /><br />"I'll tell you how it happens it's the American sports phenomenon," Switzer said. "I've seen it happen all my life; we've made coaches and players and athletes more than what we are. It's what happens in American sports. Because of that, they've gotten away with more than they should have."

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BearGeorge;620242 said:</div><hr>That would be the way I'm thinking too. McQueary was no kid, he was 28 years old when all this happened, and an ex college-qb. He had the physical stature to confront Sandusky at the time he witnessed the sodomy, had he the testicular fortitude to do so. Instead, he ran scared, called Daddy, then JoePa. JoePa immediately setup a meeting with AD Curley that occurred the next day.<br />her kids in tow. For that lack of initiative, they deserve to pay with their jobs.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Great point.<br /><br />How do you <b>not</b> pick up a bat/pipe/chair and crack it over Sandusky's head? I'm not a particularly violent person but imagine that kid is yours. Would you even wait for the cops to show up before you unleash hell on this SOB?<br /><br />:facepalm

You have to believe it was one of those things that circulated through out the whole community, but since Joe Pa did nothing they were all willing to discount it as just a rumor.<br /><br />We had a science teacher when I was in 8th grade that was rumored to be a child abuser. I can't remember what happened to him. I sort of think he got kicked out and that was the reason why. It seemed plausible to all of us who had been around him. He was well liked, but did seem to spend too much time around the kids on outside activities. I just remember he had this photo of this completely developed 14 year old girl in our class getting out of a swimming pool. The whole school was in love with this girl. He took the photo and showed it to all of us in some slide show.

At the Cal game last week I asked a friend, whose Dad is a PSU alum and hooked in pretty well back there, what she had to say about the breaking news about the Sandusky case. She didn't bat an eye and mentioned something about it being known for quite some time and what was the 'new' news. I was somewhat shocked given how big a deal it seemed to be. I can't wait to ask her this week. I don't think she realized just what a massive coverup there appears to have been.

This right here is something I've been thinking all along. More people on that staff knew. Tom Bradley has been there 33 years, I'll bet dollars to donuts that he knew. This is the one thing that leads me to agree with those calling for the team to forfeit the rest of the season. Everyone in this program needs to be fired, and a completely new team brought in. <blockquote><div class="name-said">SchadenBear;620831 said:</div><hr>There is no chance McQueary gets prosecuted for anything other than perjury.<br /><br />And Penn State probably hasn't fired McQueary yet because: 1) they still want control over this situation (criminal and civil litigation, plus federal investigations) and having McQueary on staff (as a material witness) is far better than having McQueary (as a material witness) who just got fired; and 2) they'd get sued by McQueary. Keep in mind that this is a University that just fired its President and has its AD and a VP chaged with perjury. Covering up is what they are naturaly inclined to do.<br /><br />Penn State is similarly pissing their pants over the potential testimony that the AD Curley and the VP Schultz have to offer.<br /><br />Also, Barry Switzer is on record saying that: <br /><br />"Having been in this profession a long time and knowing how close coaching staffs are, I knew that this was a secret that was kept secret," Switzer said. "Everyone on that staff had to have known, the ones that had been around a long time."<br /><br />"You think that a 13-year assistant hasn't told someone else?" Switzer said. "His wife? His father? People knew. The community knew."<br /><br />"There are more people culpable than just Joe Paterno and the athletic director," Switzer said via telephone while traveling in Texas. "There are so many other people that have thought, 'I could've done something about this, too' that didn't come forward. That's the tragedy of it."<br /><br />"I'll tell you how it happens it's the American sports phenomenon," Switzer said. "I've seen it happen all my life; we've made coaches and players and athletes more than what we are. It's what happens in American sports. Because of that, they've gotten away with more than they should have."<hr></blockquote>