Stanford ATO/Ticketing & Stubhub suck

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AUOso
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Bit of a rant, for those of you with Cal section tickets @ Stanford be warned.<br /><br />Stubhub has restricted the resale apparently [U]ONLY OF THE VISITOR SECTION TICKETS the request of the Stanford ATO[/U]. I learned this only after selling some of my extras on stubhub and having the sale voided.<br /><br />Jerks:headbang<br /><br />Hello Craigslist (the tickets are also listed on the ticket exchange board)
calumnus
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">AUOso;626288 said:</div><hr>Bit of a rant, for those of you with Cal section tickets @ Stanford be warned.<br /><br />Stubhub has restricted the resale apparently [U]ONLY OF THE VISITOR SECTION TICKETS the request of the Stanford ATO[/U]. I learned this only after selling some of my extras on stubhub and having the sale voided.<br /><br />Jerks:headbang<br /><br />Hello Craigslist (the tickets are also listed on the ticket exchange board)<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Forget Stanford and Stubhub, sell them here. I am waiting to see if my dad is giving me his 50 yard line seats (when bad weather is more certain), otherwise I'm in the market.
oskidunker
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He lives in Texas and couldn't come out for the game. He found All Stanford tickets have to be electronic, which gives them control over the bar codes. he was told by Stub Hub that CAL created these bar codes which prevented selling on Stub Hub.Seems more likely a Furd thing.<br /><br /> Anyway I still have 2 left.Stub Hub still has 1400 tickets for sale , all over $75.00 except about 50. It amazes me that these sellers are so stupid that they don't adjust their prices considering the lack of demand for this game. Tommorrow is the last day Stub Hub will list tickets unless you take them to their office. There should be fire sales and there isn't.<br /><br />All these tickets will be on the Street Saturday. Wait and buy one there if you don't have a ticket.
Phantomfan
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This sounds like a Cal thing to me.<br /><br />Why would Furd care? Cal has been hammered for some time because of the garbage ATO and people going through Stub Hub. Given the scuttlebutt that Cal returned 2000 seats, I would assume they would want the tickets they sold restricted to who they sold them too and force people who also want to go to buy through them...<br /><br /><br />It seems simple to me.
EchoOfSilence
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I'm in the market for a single ticket, let me know if someone's selling.
FiatSlug
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">AUOso;626288 said:</div><hr>Bit of a rant, for those of you with Cal section tickets @ Stanford be warned.<br /><br />Stubhub has restricted the resale apparently [U]ONLY OF THE VISITOR SECTION TICKETS the request of the Stanford ATO[/U]. I learned this only after selling some of my extras on stubhub and having the sale voided.<br /><br />Jerks:headbang<br /><br />Hello Craigslist (the tickets are also listed on the ticket exchange board)<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Are you saying that Stanf*rd told Stubhub they can't sell tickets that are for the Visitor Section? Or is it that tickets in that section have to be at least face value?
oskidunker
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Big Game tickets bought through Stanford can( evidence 1400 for sale on Stub Hub).<br /><br />He was told Stanford did not want visitor seats purchased through the opposing school to be sold in the secondary market. although as was said one could always use Craigs list or do an ebay auction.<br /><br />The key is that ALL stanford tickets for sale on Stub hub are electronic delivery only. No ability to list and fed x. This gives Stanford Control over the tickets.<br /><br />P.s. People looking to make money on Bowl tickets could run into this same problem. I guess we will find out.<br /><br />The other thing that might be in play here is that "ticket City" is Cal's official after market partner. Not sure who the Furd suggests. Could be they are protecting the kick back they get from Ticket city, although the inventory there is about 10% of Stub Hub and Section 229 is not listed for sale there either.<br /><br /> just received a Tweet that Cal is looking for an Assistant Director of Ticket Sales. Should we apply?
FiatSlug
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That's amazing. It's amazing that Stubhub would comply. <br /><br />What possible sanctions could Stanf*rd impose on Stubhub? Is there a contractual relationship between Stanf*rd and Stubhub?
oskidunker
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Since Alabama sells out and has a long waiting list for season tickets, they would not want the tickets they have to give to opponents being resold at a gouging type of price.<br /><br />But The furd never sells out and the Big Game ticket is always the hardest to sell. Unless we are playing for the right to go to the Conference championship game, it will always be so.
FiatSlug
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">oskidunker;626513 said:</div><hr>Since Alabama sells out and has a long waiting list for season tickets, they would not want the tickets they have to give to opponents being resold at a gouging type of price.<br /><br />But The furd never sells out and the Big Game ticket is always the hardest to sell. Unless we are playing for the right to go to the Conference championship game, it will always be so.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Stanf*rd will not sell any more Big Game tickets because they told Stubhub to adhere to Stanf*rd policies or else. If they do sell any more the numbers will be marginally better.<br /><br />Will Stanf*rd tell craigslist to cease and desist? This is why the attempt to restrict Stubhub is incredible: it's like trying to push back the ocean with a broom.
ColoradoBear
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">oskidunker;626513 said:</div><hr>Since Alabama sells out and has a long waiting list for season tickets, they would not want the tickets they have to give to opponents being resold at a gouging type of price.<br /><hr></blockquote><br /><br />That's true, but you can probably assume that every team doesn't really want tickets going for way above face. And stubhub, because they make money on each sale, isn't just going to appease every team that doesn't want tickets resold, otherwise their business would go away. Unless legally they are required to cease, I don't see them giving in to stanford or anyone. It was a few years ago that the hub fought the patriots in court regarding a request by New England for stubhub to reveal which seats had been sold (NE has a no re-sell policy). So yeah, what exactly does stanford have on the hub? <br /><br />Only thing I can think of is that it becomes a customer service issue when a ticket in the cal section is sold to a unknowing 'furd fan and they get harassed all game long.<br /><br />An aside regarding stubhub, I think it makes it easier to get excellent MLB tickets these days at a cheaper price (because there are so many games that season ticketholders need to sell). Plus having all the tickets out there listed is much more transparent than finding some scalper on the corner with a small stack of random tickets. At least on stubhub, there is mostly open competition, driving the prices down.
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">Phantomfan;626374 said:</div><hr>This sounds like a Cal thing to me.<br /><br />Why would Furd care? Cal has been hammered for some time because of the garbage ATO and people going through Stub Hub. Given the scuttlebutt that Cal returned 2000 seats, I would assume they would want the tickets they sold restricted to who they sold them too and force people who also want to go to buy through them...<br /><br /><br />It seems simple to me.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />He's told you what it is, and yet you blindly speculate otherwise. Why is that?
AUOso
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Fiat Slug Wrote: "Are you saying that Stanf*rd told Stubhub they can't sell tickets that are for the Visitor Section? Or is it that tickets in that section have to be at least face value?"<br /><br />I was told it was no sales in this section (227) as specified by Stanford. Whether Cal is requesting this I don't know. Since I sold at a loss I was dumbfounded. I obviously can resell elsewhere if I want (if they tried to restrict everywhere I think they would have a lawsuit on their hands...in addition to it being completely unenforceable) From what I understand, Stanford has a contract with stubhub which says that they can restrict sales (or re-sales) how & when they want. They enforce this by not allowing anything to be physically exchanged by mail. Stanford sales on stubhub are electronic transfer only, so when I put the barcode # in to finalize the transfer they simply rejected it. <br /><br />I am also angry with stubhub for allowing me to sell something in the first place that they weren't allowed to let me sell...they apparently just didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground.<br /><br />IF IT IS the CAL ATO...then this is truly the straw that broke the camel's back....there is only so much abuse I will take as a donor. I mean how short sighted can these people be?<br /><br />Is there anyone with inside knowledge about this issue?
oskidunker
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But evidently they were bought from Stanford, not Cal.<br /><br />So this is a wake up call to all those who panic bought Big Game tickets from Cal fearing the game would be sold out and they wouldn't get a ticket. Two years from now, wait until the last minute.I will never again buy Big game tickets from Cal for the game at Stanford.They take away your ability to sell if you can't go.It's your ticket, you should be able to do what you want with it.<br /><br />recent add on Craigs list. Pretty funny from a Furd Alum:3 Stanford Cal Big Game tickets, <b>[COLOR="Red"]shadyside,[/COLOR]</b> great seats
march2397
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ATO really, really sucks.
Darby
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">FiatSlug;626532 said:</div><hr>Stanf*rd will not sell any more Big Game tickets because they told Stubhub to adhere to Stanf*rd policies or else. If they do sell any more the numbers will be marginally better.<br /><br />Will Stanf*rd tell craigslist to cease and desist? This is why the attempt to restrict Stubhub is incredible: it's like trying to push back the ocean with a broom.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Great job stubhub. Sign deals with schools/teams that restrict sellers and ruin the vibrancy of their market. I wondered why prices seemed so much higher on stubhub and now it is clear. f them.<br /><br />This is ebay small ball thinking and they run stubhub now. Expect these type of shenanigans to increase as buyers look elsewhere for tickets.
Vandalus
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This is really interesting that only the visitor sections would be restricted - or at least - that's how I have interpreted it to be based upon these posts. It's odd because a partner in my firm has stanfraud tickets but they couldn't use all of them, so they sold two for the oregon game last week at $500 each. They are I guess 45 yard line seats, and I was told that it was done through stub hub. Were tickets really that high for that game and back down to $70-100 for ours! LOL! What a difference a week makes (coupled with a hilariously embarrassing loss).
geebear
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Yeah, I had an extra set of tickets sold and voided from SH last week too. I think I might have been the first one to deal with the problem. Talked to the Furd ticket office and SH but "my bar codes weren't activated yet" and there was nothing they could do for me.<br /><br />SH has failed me royally this season. I've got a pair in 228 that I'm willing to sell to a Cal fan at a very reasonable price. Drop me a note if interested.
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">geebear;626663 said:</div><hr>Yeah, I had an extra set of tickets sold and voided from SH last week too. I think I might have been the first one to deal with the problem. Talked to the Furd ticket office and SH but "my bar codes weren't activated yet" and there was nothing they could do for me.<br /><hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br /><br />So are we talking about print at home tickets? so does that mean stubhub checks the barcodes on tickets with the issuing school/venue? I've always been a little sketched out by the third party PDF tickets (anything not MLB). Stubhub now has too much market share and as a result their customer service has suffered. And by suffered, they basically don't give a crap unless there is huge $$ involved.<br /><br />There are still BG tix left up in the Cal sections... maybe the printed tickets are OK since they go straight from sender to buyer and the barcodes can't get stolen. Normal tickets just sit there until the game. barcode doesn't change or anything.
oskidunker
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Stub hub required he enter the Bar codes to list and he was then told visitor furd tickets can not be sold on stub hub.
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">oskidunker;626839 said:</div><hr>Stub hub required he enter the Bar codes to list and he was then told visitor furd tickets can not be sold on stub hub.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Thanks for the clarification. I'm looking at the ND game over thanksgiving, a game where hard tickets can easily be fedex-ed in time and there are none. Every single ticket is a PDF. So stubhub and stanford have tied their ticketing software together and apparently the Furd is using it to give a big FU to Cal fans. <br /><br />It's really strange.... in a typical year, everyone is paying essentially jack sh1t for furd tix. remember all teh USC fans who were so concerned about getting into the game that they pooled together to buy a group of full season tickets? then similar seats were around for $20 on gameday. So maybe the furd has reason they don't want tickets for sale if they undercut their own box office and they target visitors since they aren't perspective return customers. But for the hub, why are they bowing to stanfurd? why would stubhub lower their revenues unless furd is paying them off to make the process at least revenue neutral?
calumnus
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">ebag08;626881 said:</div><hr>[somewhat related] parking used to be free at stanford games. does anybody know if parking is still free? thanks in advance!<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Parking was $15 for the Stanford - UCLA game, so I would expect at least that.
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Mama Bear
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I couldn't believe $15.00 to park in the groves. New policy this year. Cashing in on their new-found fans. But $35. for a 2011 season parking pass was a good buy. Off campus for us. No bucks (pun intended) for Stanford.
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">ColoradoBear1;626875 said:</div><hr>So maybe the furd has reason they don't want tickets for sale if they undercut their own box office and they target visitors since they aren't perspective return customers. But for the hub, why are they bowing to stanfurd? why would stubhub lower their revenues unless furd is paying them off to make the process at least revenue neutral?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Yeah, Stubhub is the "official fan to fan ticket marketplace for Stanford Athletics," so I guess that arrangement allows Stanf to call the shots. And, meanwhile, longtime Stubhub customers who bought their tix through Cal (like they've been doing for years) are suddenly screwed. <br /><br />I'm trying to sell 2 tickets Big Game in the Cal section and am having a helluva time getting a fair offer. If my tickets hadn't been banned from Stubhub, I'm sure I could have sold them there days ago.
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miket, check your pm
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