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smoke and mirrors...well i guess the Cal fans are getting their $$$ worth these past seasons...too bad we can't get Peterson, ,i bet he would play games to win and not sugarcoat the fact that we do not have a QB or a RB...if we had the QB from WSU we probably could have beaten Texas and Stanford...<br />and we have to go through another season of this??? DOH!!!<br />:newnana:

Our QB situation has been "answered a little bit" after that game? Does he mean ZM gets benched?

At this point, I think JT's head is so far up his you-know-what that he actually believes the crap he spouts.

3rd most passing yards in Cal history? What an effing joke. Should have pulled a Universiy of Chicago a few decades ago.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">goodrich;661602 said:</div><hr>smoke and mirrors...well i guess the Cal fans are getting their $$$ worth these past seasons...too bad we can't get Peterson, ,i bet he would play games to win and not sugarcoat the fact that we do not have a QB or a RB...if we had the QB from WSU we probably could have beaten Texas and Stanford...<br />and we have to go through another season of this??? DOH!!!<br />:newnana:<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Peterson has kids that attend JC type classes and spend half the year majoring in football.

most of Cal's historic QB's played less games in a season...

Tedford just isn't that bright of a guy. Our QB situation is figured out? bwhahaha..you have got to be kidding me?! <br /><br />Tedford the king of beating teams with inferior talent. The fact that he called 2 runs up the middle with less than 5 minutes to go still amazes me.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SchadenBear;661659 said:</div><hr>Peterson has kids that attend JC type classes and spend half the year majoring in football.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />And we have a 35% graduation rate.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">paul916;661616 said:</div><hr>At this point, I think JT's head is so far up his you-know-what that he actually believes the crap he spouts.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I wonder if mr tedford has every taken a drug test? Some of the crap that falls out of his mouth makes one wonder.

At least Rich Brooks went to the Rose Bowl.....

<blockquote><div class="name-said">AZGoldenBear;661664 said:</div><hr>Tedford just isn't that bright of a guy. Our QB situation is figured out? bwhahaha..you have got to be kidding me?! <br /><br />Tedford the king of beating teams with inferior talent. The fact that he called 2 runs up the middle with less than 5 minutes to go still amazes me.<hr></blockquote><br />Tedford said that before the game, and based on the last Four games he was RIGHT , Zach played as good as any PAC 12 QB over the last 4 games,

More pure crap from Tedford. He needs to take off his rose colored glasses. He was totally outcoached last night by Mack Brown. Texas' offense, which is nothing to brag about, at least had a diversified attack, with a handful of trick plays thrown in. Cal, on the other hand, repeated the Tedford routine of running Isi between the tackles on the vast majority of first downs for little or no gain. This has become such a predictible pattern that it's absolutely disgusting. Another given is that Maynard cannot complete any pass over 20 yards; you can absolutely count on any such pass being well overthrown at best or intercepted at worst. <br /><br />Our offensive line play against Texas was beyond pathetic. 6 sacks and 7 net rushing yards for the entire game says it all. Our linemen should go into hiding given how badly they embarrssed themselves last night.<br /><br />Bottom line is I don't see any reason for optimism regarding the 2012 season. The highlight is likely to be the re-opening of the renovated Memorial Stadium rather than anything that happens on the field. So long as Tedford is our coach we'll continue to struggle badly against any team with a winning record. His teams are strictly bottom feeders.

who cares how many passing yards he has?

Typical Cal fans being extremely moody after a loss. It wasn't that Mack Brown out coached JT it was that Texas simply had better players on D, which eventually just wore out the pass protection and offensive line in general. The longer the game went the worse our oline play became. Surprisingly I think that ZM's fumbles are hurting the team more than his INT's. We simply had no running game, and JT was forced to rely on ZM to carry the team. Right after the drive to open up the second half it was clear that Texas had control of the LOS and that we had to solely rely on the passing game. Playcalling wasn't the problem, we just got physically punked.

That is way too rational of an argument.<br /><br />Go Bears!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SchadenBear;662005 said:</div><hr>That is way too rational of an argument.<br /><br />Go Bears!<hr></blockquote><br /><br />But a correct one. Very few QB's can hold up under such a withering pass rush.<br />Even trick plays(that everybody seems to want) don't work.

I accept your point in general, because I do think Cal was out-coached because they didn't make offensive adjustments.<br />However, Cal actually scored more points than every other opponent that Texas beat this year, except A&M's 25. In addition, Cal scored more than two of the opponents that Texas lost to(Missouri and K-State.)<br /> So, the "handled easily" comes down to Baylor, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St.; that is a group that are clearly offensive elite. None of that makes me feel a whole lot better, but the defense didn't come out of nowhere either.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">bearster;661948 said:</div><hr>Typical Cal fans being extremely moody after a loss. It wasn't that Mack Brown out coached JT it was that Texas simply had better players on D, which eventually just wore out the pass protection and offensive line in general. The longer the game went the worse our oline play became. Surprisingly I think that ZM's fumbles are hurting the team more than his INT's. We simply had no running game, and JT was forced to rely on ZM to carry the team. Right after the drive to open up the second half it was clear that Texas had control of the LOS and that we had to solely rely on the passing game. Playcalling wasn't the problem, we just got physically punked.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Is this why we ran it up the middle with 5 mins left. I dont know if I was watching a diffent game, but I did not see "we had to solely rely on the passing game". I saw horrible play calling with coninued running plays on long yardage despite a completely ineffective running game and a dwindling clock.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SchadenBear;662005 said:</div><hr>That is way too rational of an argument.<br /><br />Go Bears!<hr></blockquote><br /><br />It may be SchadenBear, but it exposes yet another weakness on the part of this team. Maybe I would give MYnard a pass without the fumbles. Certainly our running game was non existent with Texas OL domination. But then you need to rely on your QB to open things up. ZM seems incapable of any pocket presence. The rollouts to the left are the only thing in the play book for ZM - and the "schoolyard" pass and catch to Keenan. <br /><br />I do not share Tedfords optimism. The PAC-12 is getting better. UCLA, Arizona, Wazoo and ASU will be improved. I don't see how we get better in 2012.<br /><br />But hey - at least we got those 30 days of extra practice in!! It sure showed.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">philly1121;662063 said:</div><hr>It may be SchadenBear, but it exposes yet another weakness on the part of this team. Maybe I would give MYnard a pass without the fumbles. Certainly our running game was non existent with Texas OL domination. But then you need to rely on your QB to open things up. ZM seems incapable of any pocket presence. The rollouts to the left are the only thing in the play book for ZM - and the "schoolyard" pass and catch to Keenan. <br /><br />I do not share Tedfords optimism. The PAC-12 is getting better. UCLA, Arizona, Wazoo and ASU will be improved. I don't see how we get better in 2012.<br /><br />But hey - at least we got those 30 days of extra practice in!! It sure showed.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Why is it we have a so- called 150 plays in the playbook but keep calling the same 2-3 plays. I guess a run up the middle can be done 49 different ways. Simplify like Chipper and execute it

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;662017 said:</div><hr>This differs from our players?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Drunk - I rarely agree with you but hats off to you on this one. I am getting a little impatient with Cal fans who think our players must study harder because they play football at the University of California.<br /><br />Our players are here for one primary purpose - to play football. They are no different than the other 115 D1 programs in the US. Our players are generally not known for taking rocket science courses. (Maybe there were some but not many. Every school has their exceptions).<br /><br />We finished with an abysmal graduation rate. Blame it on Holmoe's players but I just don't care. It proves that academics are not what is important for our players. Eligibility is!<br /><br />Much of our elitist thinking is based on the assumption that our courses are harder and more competitive than other football factories, and, therefore, we can take the high road. And I thought only UCLA had that attitude.<br /><br />If we were on the same Rose Bowl trajectory as Oregon, I doubt many of us including myself would really care what the graudation rate was. It only bothers us that we can't have both at this point in our program. I have also noticed that since we have been getting the living sh!t kicked out of us on the gridiron, Tedford has swung into the "our boys are hitting the books and our academics are being emphasized" mantra. I call BS.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">rafterfan180;661611 said:</div><hr>Why go that far? I think Cal would've won with Bridgford. At least give him a shot. If Bridgford came in last night, stunk it up and Cal loses, I would be satisfied because at least it shows the coaches are trying to win. There is ZERO reason to leave Maynard out there drive after failed-drive.<hr></blockquote><br />Actually the bad part of comparing to WSU is that we might have won with THREE of their QBs. Ok maybe not, but we saw 3 who played and showed reasonable command of offense, 2 of whom you could have confidence in for future years. We still have no frickin clue what we have behind ZM, but our Mansion and Sweeney experiences don't instill confidence. <br /><br />I liked enough of what I saw from AB to want to see more. To see how he could calm down and grow after that first extended chance under live fire. To me it is suicide to not find a way to get QB backup PT.

I think we'll definitely be better. Zach and Isi have a year under their belt. It sounds like Bigs will get some more touches. The defense improved over the course of the year and they'll be good. Jalil is a beast. The corners are good. McCain looks promising. We still have Allen. Stanford will be down a notch. We should get 1 or 2 more Pac 12 wins and probably lose to Ohio St. I'd say 8-4 with an Alamo Bowl or Vegas bowl win sounds about right. As more talent poors in the frustrating losses will grow. I hope Tedford doesn't Ben Braun himself.

Ohio State = loss (no chance in hell are we beating Urban Meyer in the horseshoe.)<br /><br />Washington = loss (that team last night looked scary, at least on one side of the ball.)<br /><br />USC = loss (Tedford is 2-12 in SoCal, and he's not going to suddenly beat the No. 1/2 team in the land.)<br /><br />Oregon = loss (yup)<br /><br />That's 4 guaranteed losses.<br /><br />Plus 1 WTF loss = We have one or more every year. Will it be UCLA, Washington State, Arizona State and/or Nevada?<br /><br />Plus maybe a loss to Stanford = When a team suddenly looks beatable, we end up getting beaten.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">goodrich;661602 said:</div><hr>smoke and mirrors...well i guess the Cal fans are getting their $$$ worth these past seasons...too bad we can't get Peterson, ,i bet he would play games to win and not sugarcoat the fact that we do not have a QB or a RB...if we had the QB from WSU we probably could have beaten Texas and Stanford...<br />and we have to go through another season of this??? DOH!!!<br />:newnana:<hr></blockquote><br /><br />And, if Texas had had an mediocre to average NCAA Div. 1 QB ..... and if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. <br /><br />Don't mean to sound too harsh. Cal has a stable of great high school QBs behind Maynard. I am not a big fan of Hinder as a player [I'm sure he is a fine kid]. Boehm and Bridgford never really got a shot this year. Instead of wishing for a kid outside your program or some coach, it would be great to have seen either of these QBs play. Even if it meant simplifying the playbook or calls, I was very impressed with both of them in high school.<br /><br />Texas? The great and powerful university of the state of Texas left its QBing in the hands of a kid who should at best be a walk-on [McCoy] and a true freshman [Ash] with barely 3 weeks of August practices. Yeah, that's a recipe for winning. As much as I love my Longhorns, my BP rises every time I think of this.

These are disconcerting quotes. Our QB situation has been answered for what? For 7-6 type seasons? Then yes, they have. Wow, if JT believes that Maynard gives us the best chance at competing for the P12 title (isn't that our goal, or is it? If not, what is the school paying him to do?), he has completely lost it. Again, I seem to have to preface this on every point so no one gets this wrong. Zach is a good, classy kid and is doing what any kid would do if their coach tells them he's the starter - play and try his best. It's not on him. JT has to decide if he wants this program to turn the corner and be big time or not (and considering he makes big time money). Otherwise, he can continue in his middling and mediocre ways. I think he has 1 year to figure it out. But these quotes don't give me any confidence that he will. He hasn't in years so why would he radically change now? Sadly 2012 looks like another season of irrelevance. Good luck to Oregon and $C. *sigh*

Typical bullshit from Tedford.<br /><br />He probably figures some **** will stick to the wall...eventually.<br /><br /><br />Tedford interviews are worse than Ben Braun ones....

<blockquote><div class="name-said">KoreAmBear;662171 said:</div><hr>These are disconcerting quotes. Our QB situation has been answered for what? For 7-6 type seasons? Then yes, they have. Wow, if JT believes that Maynard gives us the best chance at competing for the P12 title (isn't that our goal, or is it? If not, what is the school paying him to do?), he has completely lost it. Again, I seem to have to preface this on every point so no one gets this wrong. Zach is a good, classy kid and is doing what any kid would do if their coach tells them he's the starter - play and try his best. It's not on him. JT has to decide if he wants this program to turn the corner and be big time or not (and considering he makes big time money). Otherwise, he can continue in his middling and mediocre ways. I think he has 1 year to figure it out. But these quotes don't give me any confidence that he will. He hasn't in years so why would he radically change now? Sadly 2012 looks like another season of irrelevance. Good luck to Oregon and $C. *sigh*<hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Yeah, that article was disturbing because it was utterly positive.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">okaydo;662209 said:</div><hr>Yeah, that article was disturbing because it was utterly positive.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Sounds like JT's final stage at Cal is complete denial of what's going on. At least Rick Neuheisel faced it by apologizing and admitting how bad things were going. JT seems to be entrenched in denial, that we're a couple of plays or executing from winning any particular game (or within an x number of points from going 10-3 or something), being extremely cantankerous at post practice interviews, either blaming the fans for now showing or asking fans to feel sorry for him after the season (with excuses like we never had a real home game, or we had injuries, or we're too young, etc.). I wish we could let JT go now but now we are going to have to suffer at least one more year. It's so predictable now. Does Sandy want to do the math and see if it's worth the loss in revenue at the gate and with merchandising, compared to eating JT's salary?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Letsroll;662078 said:</div><hr>Drunk - I rarely agree with you but hats off to you on this one. I am getting a little impatient with Cal fans who think our players must study harder because they play football at the University of California.<br /><br />Our players are here for one primary purpose - to play football. They are no different than the other 115 D1 programs in the US. Our players are generally not known for taking rocket science courses. (Maybe there were some but not many. Every school has their exceptions).<br /><br />We finished with an abysmal graduation rate. Blame it on Holmoe's players but I just don't care. It proves that academics are not what is important for our players. Eligibility is!<br /><br />Much of our elitist thinking is based on the assumption that our courses are harder and more competitive than other football factories, and, therefore, we can take the high road. And I thought only UCLA had that attitude.<br /><br />If we were on the same Rose Bowl trajectory as Oregon, I doubt many of us including myself would really care what the graudation rate was. It only bothers us that we can't have both at this point in our program. I have also noticed that since we have been getting the living sh!t kicked out of us on the gridiron, Tedford has swung into the "our boys are hitting the books and our academics are being emphasized" mantra. I call BS.<hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Kudos to you for having the guts to point out this open secret. <br />I've taken my share of easy courses, where I spent about 1% of my normal effort to get an A, where in a "real" class this effort would get me thrown out in week 1.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">KoreAmBear;662214 said:</div><hr>Sounds like JT's final stage at Cal is complete denial of what's going on. At least Rick Neuheisel faced it by apologizing and admitting how bad things were going. JT seems to be entrenched in denial, that we're a couple of plays or executing from winning any particular game (or within an x number of points from going 10-3 or something), being extremely cantankerous at post practice interviews, either blaming the fans for now showing or asking fans to feel sorry for him after the season (with excuses like we never had a real home game, or we had injuries, or we're too young, etc.). I wish we could let JT go now but now we are going to have to suffer at least one more year. It's so predictable now. Does Sandy want to do the math and see if it's worth the loss in revenue at the gate and with merchandising, compared to eating JT's salary?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Reporter: " Well Jeff, How do you feel you coached this year? "<br /> JT: " I think I was on par with an Urban Meyer or Chris Peterson<br />Reporter: " Hmmm. I see. Well what are your thoughts on ZM's season ? "<br /> JT: " I believe Zach was right up there with the likes of Aaron Rodgers, <br /> and RGIII<br />Reporter: oooookayy!!. Jeff, Could you tell me what year it is? "<br /> JT: " umm. could you repeat the question. I'll have to get back to you<br /> on that".<br />Reporter: " smh, nv. thanks coach "

More and more, that "package deal" is really irking me.<br /><br />It's taken the program hostage.<br /><br />As someone wrote on the Bama board, we made a deal with the devil.<br /><br />Even if there isn't favoritism, it just looks bad.<br /><br />It's like Tedford is more concerned these days with the personal feelings of its players rather than the business of winning.<br /><br />How do you make a package deal with the QB position?<br /><br />It just leaves me feeling queasy.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">oskibear1988;662043 said:</div><hr>Is this why we ran it up the middle with 5 mins left. I dont know if I was watching a diffent game, but I did not see "we had to solely rely on the passing game". I saw horrible play calling with coninued running plays on long yardage despite a completely ineffective running game and a dwindling clock.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I read it as our coaches basically packing it in. Just no sense of urgency at all, and this isn't just this last game, but something that has happened in other 4th quarters the last few years.