Just heard on ESPN's Around the Horn that news out of Miami is that the Dolphins are interested in Chip Kelly as their head coach. The Dolphins are denying the rumor. It does makes since ala Cheatie Petey going to the Seahawks on the tail of NCAA sanctions. Chipper could be thinking the same thing, get out of Dodgr before the posse shows up.

Draft RG3 for that offense and off to the races

<blockquote><div class="name-said">bar20;673496 said:</div><hr>Just heard on ESPN's Around the Horn that news out of Miami is that the Dolphins are interested in Chip Kelly as their head coach. The Dolphins are denying the rumor. It does makes since ala Cheatie Petey going to the Seahawks on the tail of NCAA sanctions. Chipper could be thinking the same thing, get out of Dodgr before the posse shows up.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Maybe he will pull a "Pete Carroll" with sanctions coming just around the corner.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">dajo9;673504 said:</div><hr>Draft RG3 for that offense and off to the races<hr></blockquote><br /><br />No kidding - my only concern would be whether RG3 can handle the punishment. Tebow is really the only guy in the league right now that can run the read-option long term, since he's basically a FB playing QB (and even that is debatable I'm sure). I would be worried that with RG3, you are going to get him killed if you run the read-option. He's 6'2", 220 right now (allegedly). That's probably borderline.

I didn't watch a single game with Cam Newton this year, but he's 250lbs and 6'5" - he might be tougher than tebow. Still I don't see a chip style offense working at miami, and if it does, it would make more sense to have a few lower draft picks at QB that are more or less interchangeable. Build a offense around a #2 pick that puts him at risk and, you are exactly right, what happens when he gets hurt. <br /><br />Other than the hurry up spread, which isn't that hard to scout, it's just executed well, what does Chip offer?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Vandalus;673509 said:</div><hr>No kidding - my only concern would be whether RG3 can handle the punishment. Tebow is really the only guy in the league right now that can run the read-option long term, since he's basically a FB playing QB (and even that is debatable I'm sure). I would be worried that with RG3, you are going to get him killed if you run the read-option. He's 6'2", 220 right now (allegedly). That's probably borderline.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />You just need to have a bunch of guys that can run it. Masoli is available. Jamarcus Russell is available.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">calumnus;673532 said:</div><hr>You just need to have a bunch of guys that can run it. Masoli is available. Jamarcus Russell is available.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />can jawalrus even run these days? or move without a forklift?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">68great;673505 said:</div><hr>Maybe he will pull a "Pete Carroll" with sanctions coming just around the corner.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Did you just provide cliffs on his post?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">EchoOfSilence;673536 said:</div><hr>Did you just provide cliffs on his post?<hr></blockquote><br />Just in case you didn't get it the first time.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">ColoradoBear1;673529 said:</div><hr>I didn't watch a single game with Cam Newton this year, but he's 250lbs and 6'5" - he might be tougher than tebow. Still I don't see a chip style offense working at miami, and if it does, it would make more sense to have a few lower draft picks at QB that are more or less interchangeable. Build a offense around a #2 pick that puts him at risk and, you are exactly right, what happens when he gets hurt. <br /><br />Other than the hurry up spread, which isn't that hard to scout, it's just executed well, what does Chip offer?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />How could I have forgotten about Cam! I didn't watch an entire game, but as I recall, they haven't gone as far as denver has in running a true read-option. I mean, Cam may run some, but Denver is running that offense like 70% of their plays. Cam seemed to me to be scrambling a lot and getting positive yards on broken plays more than designed qb runs, but I could be wrong on that.

Kelly is so innovative. I would be interested to see what he can come up with. However, I don't think the read option works in the NFL in the long run. You have experienced, ridiculously athletic guys at the DE and OLB spots in the NFL that guys like RG3, Tebow, and Masoli can't beat to the edge. And, doing a bunch of QB runs between the tackles can't be a good idea.

Cam was my fantasy QB this year so I've probably seen every game he played. He is a freak and will revolutionize the position. Up until maybe the 16th week of the season, he had more rushing TDs than anyone in the league - not just among QBs, mind you, but RBs as well. And he still managed to pass for 4000+ yards. They don't really run much of a read-option, though they do go to it at times, and there are a number of designed QB runs. Rivera was completely content to allow Cam to run it from 15 yards out of the end zone over and over again, and he would score that way - that's how good he is.<br /><br />Once more players like Cam, who in the past would have played TE or DE or WR, start to convert to QB - watch out. <br /><br />I can't imagine Miami would adopt the blur wholesale though. It would be an enormous gamble and NFL types aren't exactly fond of risks. It would be very exciting in a strategic sense to see it played out in the NFL, and great for us in the P12 North, but I won't hold my breath.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SurvivorOf1and10fkaLEA;673561 said:</div><hr>Kelly is so innovative. I would be interested to see what he can come up with. However, I don't think the read option works in the NFL in the long run. You have experienced, ridiculously athletic guys at the DE and OLB spots in the NFL that guys like RG3, Tebow, and Masoli can't beat to the edge. And, doing a bunch of QB runs between the tackles can't be a good idea.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />It would probably work well in the short term at least because NFL Ds aren't used to seeing offenses like these, the first pro team to implement such an offense would have a very nice edge there, a bit like the 9ers had in the early days of the WCO. Opponents aren't going to spend more than a couple of weeks preparing for this unconventional offense. Think of our recent game vs Nevada and Pendergast (who was a good NFL DC).<br /><br />The QB personnel issue isn't that much of a problem as Calumnus mentioned, you could just platoon a bunch of very good read option underpaid ex-college QBs whom Miami could hire for six figures annual salaries. these guys are selling cars and bagging groceries right now...<br /><br />Kelly to the NFL would be the best thing to happen to our Rose Bowl chances. we'd be in the driver's seat for 2013-2014. Here's hoping that one of the dozens of NFL owners/managers has the foresight to grab him...

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Cal88;673592 said:</div><hr>Kelly to the NFL would be the best thing to happen to our Rose Bowl chances. we'd be in the driver's seat for 2013-2014. Here's hoping that one of the dozens of NFL owners/managers has the foresight to grab him...<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Step up Oregon! It's the surest sign that your program is on the rise - getting raided by the NFL for your coaching staff. See Cal and Mooch. We were definitely on an upward trend that continued ... <br /><br />:sarc:<br /><br />All kidding aside, I would be all for the chipster moving onward and upward to the NFL.

Meh. Knight would just buy a team of scientists to combine the DNA of Kelly, Saban, Les Miles, and probably Knight himself and make a super-clone coach with Nike signs for ears and dollar signs for eyes.

The idea that Chipies offense would work in the NFL is just hogwash. Did any of you WATCH the LSU/Auburn games? Or 6 of 8 quarters of our game. Or USC?<br /><br />Oregon "wins" because they exploit Edge speed and FORCE the LBs to play great, disciplined defense WHEN THEY ARE OF AVERAGE SPEED. They simply can not get back into the play unless they play the edge perfectly and make the read with extremely rapid reaction time.<br /><br />But NFL linebackers are not of average speed. They can "bite" and still recover to close the edge down. And no, the would-be Miami Dolphins are not upgrading Oregon's edge speed at the same rate.<br /><br />There is a REASON why the NFL offenses that "work" all look like New Orleans and Green Bays. The rules and athletes in the big show favor drop back passers who get the ball out fast and accurate to large but abnormally fast wide outs. If you probably got into the body mechanics it is that defensive backs above 6 feet have a radically diminishing speed while running backwards which is not the case for WR running forward who can still be blindingly fast at 64 or 6 5. Thus the height mismatched exploited time and time again. And my guess is that better training and more advanced understanding of body mechanics have allowed tall players to get that speed. It also helps that the rules don't allow you to play Art Tatum anymore and put people into traction.<br /><br />Think of it ANOTHER way. For reasons that I think reflect the above and rules, this is NOT the era of the next Barry Sanders or Walter Payton. Some fine running backs but no one, even with a 16 game season, only ONE player averaged more than 100 yards a game and only 14 running backs had over 1,000. Meanwhile we had TWENTY QBs go for over 3000 yards passing - and THREE go for more than 5000 this year.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">68great;673505 said:</div><hr>Maybe he will pull a "Pete Carroll" with<b> sanctions coming just around the corner</b>.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />As much as I dislike the chipster, it doesn't seem like sanctions are really coming. We thought they would come last year and now not a whisper of developments. And whose to say it won't be just a slap on the wrist if there are any sactions. Meanwhile Oregon recruits merrilly away. Does anybody have reason to believe these sanctions are for real?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">heartofthebear;673912 said:</div><hr>As much as I dislike the chipster, it doesn't seem like sanctions are really coming. We thought they would come last year and now not a whisper of developments. And whose to say it won't be just a slap on the wrist if there are any sactions. Meanwhile Oregon recruits merrilly away. Does anybody have reason to believe these sanctions are for real?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Last I heard the NCAA sent an official letter of inquiry to Oregon in mid September. This is what NCAA.org says in its glossary of terms about these letters:<br /><br /><i>Letter of Inquiry: When the enforcement staff begins an investigation, they send a letter of inquiry to the president or chancellor. The purpose of this notice is to inform school leadership the enforcement staff will be investigating possible NCAA violations at their school. The alleged facts of the case are also presented and other details are provided including an approximate time frame of the investigation.</i><br /><br />I thought I vaguely remember hearing a time frame of 6-8 weeks, but either my recollection is wrong, the source was wrong, or the NCAA has greatly exceeded their estimate.

I don't think we honestly have a large enough sample size to say whether or not Chip Kelly's offense could thrive in the NFL. All we've seen up until now is what happens when it is tested against collegiate athletes, and with, if I'm honest, a mixture of elite and not so elite athletes responsible for the execution. I'm very curious to see how things evolve as Oregon's offensive line begins utilizing kids that were more highly regarded as linemen out of high school. Similarly it would be interesting to see an NFL quality offensive line doing zone blocking for a read-option offense.<br /><br />The time frame as I understood it suggested that Oregon should receive an NOA (if there is indeed one to be filed) no later than mid-march. The NCAA still has time.