Ideas on new DL coach....?

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SmellinRoses
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Who is floating around out there? Any high-energy, former NFLers looking to move up in the coaching ranks? I assume guys like Tedford have a short list at all times...
BigbadBear
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We need someone who played at Cal to replace Tosh. Agree with Nickerson and Follett.
510Bear
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Lots of us are mentioning the Follett/Nickerson option, but there hasn't been much analysis of whether it could happen. Any reasons why JT or TPTB might veto something like that, other than Follett's lack of experience?
heartofthebear
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">510Bear;680034 said:</div><hr>Lots of us are mentioning the Follett/Nickerson option, but there hasn't been much analysis of whether it could happen. Any reasons why JT or TPTB might veto something like that, other than Follett's lack of experience?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />These guys are not DL guys nor are they at the level of coaching we need. Sure hire them as grad assists or let them coach STs together since.... well you know. <br /><br />But I believe the OP was thinking about some additional names, since there are threads running on these guys already.<br /><br />We need somebody with national name recognition as well as these guys.
southseasbear
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Ed White was an assistant under Holmoe and seemed to have recruited some good players. He was an all time great offensive lineman with the Chargers in the NFL but played DL at Cal.
SmellinRoses
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">cal4life;680073 said:</div><hr>Hardy Nickerson. Former Bear. Enthusiastic. Completely fierce player. Played at an all pro level in the NFL. Coaching one of the premier HS programs in state. Bleeds blue and gold. <br /><br />Make it happen.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Can HN coach the DL? I agree it'd be ideal to get a former Bear. Isn't a former 49er currently the DL coach at SJSU...? Possible candidate...?
pnaidu
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We need someone who has a lot of love and excitement and played at cal, people that come to mind are Cam Jordan(not going to happen because he has a pretty damn good job at the moment), Rulon Davis(what's he doing?) and trevor Guyton(lets see if he gets drafted first though). If we are going to try to replace Tosh, which is almost impossible, then you have to recreate the formula. Thoughts?
schristeck
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We need to retain a DL coach with NFL DL credentials of some sort. Someone like Ambrose, but on the DL would be good. A coach like that can go to work on the DL guys that are already interested and legitimately make a case that they are now in the best hands are far as there NFL prospects go - perhaps even better than with Lupoi as their position coach. Going forward, JT can bring on someone young, like Follet, to fill the recruiting and more intangible void that is left with Lupoi's departure.
cbadbear
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What's Regan Upshaw doing these days?
TKDBear
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Cal Alum, former 1st round pick & a 10 year NFL career. <br /><br /><a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""""" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""""</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football""""</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football""""</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""</a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""</a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""</a></a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""</a></a></a> class="postlink " 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Agureghian
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how about nick holt?
82gradDLSdad
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that Marshall had a ton of NFL experience. Hell he had a ton of college experience. That doesn't mean ****. If you can't coach it will mess your team up. It seems like most people on this board dismiss coaching. Sorry to disappoint but great coaching is what is needed most at Cal. I don't have a lot of faith that Tedford has a short list of great DL coaches but throwing around names like Follet and Nickerson to come coach our DL is just stupid. Trust me, we need someone who can coach. If they have a name and can recruit that's a bonus but first and foremost he needs to be able to coach DL technique and manage/motivate his DL roster.
Ukrainian
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">heartofthebear;680066 said:</div><hr>These guys are not DL guys nor are they at the level of coaching we need. Sure hire them as grad assists or let them coach STs together since.... well you know. <br /><br />But I believe the OP was thinking about some additional names, since there are threads running on these guys already.<br /><br />We need somebody with national name recognition as well as these guys.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Really ?? What experience did Tosh have prior to taking the DL job ? I don't deny his love and passion for Cal, which have now been trumped by $$$$, but there are others with more NFL experience and similar enthusiam for our university.<br /><br />Follett has experience playing on Sunday and is tech savvy. His on-field intensity is legendary and he endeared himself to Detroit fans, just as he did playing for the Bears. He would be a great recruiter of young, agressive talent.<br /><br />Hardy Sr. played many years at an all-pro level for a pretty good defense in Pittsburgh. That's qualifications enough for me !! He also is equally passionate for Cal and did a helluva job coaching up his son.
socaltownie
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I would love for them to find a spot for ZF (cause he damm well, I am sure, recruit) but I also think that if you want 4 and 5 star linemen you need someone who can teach NFL rushing technique. I know those are the first set of questions for ZF in his interview.
Oski87
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Andre Carter...just tore his left quad tendon. Maybe wants to call it quits? He only had a one year contract with the Patriots, and made about 1.5 million.
Scooterville Gau
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replacing Tosh the head recruiter that will be very, very difficult - good DL coaches abound and Tedford will find some suitable old crony/hack that can fill the bill - but, can he find a SUPER RECRUITER to replace Benedict Lupoi that is the big question
southseasbear
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">82gradDLSdad;680169 said:</div><hr>that Marshall had a ton of NFL experience. Hell he had a ton of college experience. That doesn't mean ****. If you can't coach it will mess your team up. It seems like most people on this board dismiss coaching. Sorry to disappoint but great coaching is what is needed most at Cal. I don't have a lot of faith that Tedford has a short list of great DL coaches but throwing around names like Follet and Nickerson to come coach our DL is just stupid. Trust me, we need someone who can coach. If they have a name and can recruit that's a bonus but first and foremost he needs to be able to coach DL technique and manage/motivate his DL roster.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Excellent point. Nickerson is a high school coach, though, isn't he? How well have his teams performed?<br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">TKDBear;680159 said:</div><hr>Cal Alum, former 1st round pick & a 10 year NFL career. <br /><br /><a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""""" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""""</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football""""</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football""""</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""</a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""</a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football"""</a></a>" class="postlink " 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href="http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football</a></a><hr></blockquote><br</a></a></a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://mnusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=138&path=football</a></a><hr></blockquote><br</a></a></a></a> /><br />Intriguing idea. How technically good was his line at MNU? Also, it appears he's not a full time coach since he's also a premed student there.
mdcspe69
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Hardy Nickerson was also the Chicago Bears Linebackers Coach.
mbBear
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it might be a good hire, but if its not someone that is "well known" on the board, it will start 10 threads, blame Sandy, and let the Tedford haters pile on more. <br /> So, we have that going for us...<br />I love the alum factor, but you weigh that against coaching ability, recruiting connections. Is Tosh the last hire who didn't come from another school? Cal has never hired a HS coach to be an assistant, is that accurate?
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I would start looking at Clancy's past and where he was a coach. He is the DC, so he just might have a lot of say in the hire since the person will coach under him. Is is possible the guy was with Clancy at some point?<br /><br />Pat Hill?:p
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">mdcspe69;680421 said:</div><hr>Hardy Nickerson was also the Chicago Bears Linebackers Coach.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I know, I keep point ing this out. But guess what? The Chicago Bears hired him as a position coach with [U]no previous coaching[/U] experience!!! Imagine that? Pro teams do it ALL THE TIME.<br /><br />Back when we were advocating Ron Rivera for our DC opening people argued he was not qualified to coach at Cal. Now, just a few years later, <b>he is a head coach in the NFL</b>. He did not start as a "GA" in the NFL--he started as a position coach in the NFL, with [U]no previous coaching experience[/U]. And Rivera was not a perennial All-Pro like Nickerson (though he might have been if he did not play behind Mike Singletary). <br /><br />So Nickerson has coaching experience in the NFL and head coaching experience in High School--but he was qualified when the Chicago Bears hired him. Zach Follet is qualified to be a position coach for Cal.
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Hardy would be great, but for the DL part (which is the real problem). He is obviously keyed in with younger kids, since he's now a coach. Fierce. NFL. Someone thought maybe coach T could slide over to DL. Don't know. Coach G has ST and TE experience, but don't think DL. Unless we did something more dramatic (like replacing an existing coach), I don't see Hardy coming in at this point. Follet could be a GA, but don't know fi they can recruit. <br /><br />Agree on the broader point. What hurts is we lost both a DL coach AND the 2x recruiter of the year. The latter is what we need to replace, but we need someone who can also coach DL (unless one of our existing coaches steps up on recruiting--Ambrose, HELLO!!!).
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">calumnus;680479 said:</div><hr>I know, I keep point ing this out. But guess what? The Chicago Bears hired him as a position coach with [U]no previous coaching[/U] experience!!! Imagine that? Pro teams do it ALL THE TIME.<br /><br />Back when we were advocating Ron Rivera for our DC opening people argued he was not qualified to coach at Cal. Now, just a few years later, <b>he is a head coach in the NFL</b>. He did not start as a "GA" in the NFL--he started as a position coach in the NFL, with [U]no previous coaching experience[/U]. And Rivera was not a perennial All-Pro like Nickerson (though he might have been if he did not play behind Mike Singletary). <br /><br />So Nickerson has coaching experience in the NFL and head coaching experience in High School--but he was qualified when the Chicago Bears hired him. Zach Follet is qualified to be a position coach for Cal.<hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br />There certainly are many examples of players coaching a position they did not play. <br /><br />Does anyone know why Hardy left the Chicago Bears?
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">89Bear;680494 said:</div><hr>There certainly are many examples of players coaching a position they did not play. <br /><br />Does anyone know why Hardy left the Chicago Bears?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />"Family health issues" The Bears wanted him to stay: <a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""""" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""""</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""""</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""""</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""</a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""</a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""</a></a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""</a></a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="<a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a>""" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a>""</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a>"</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a>"</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a></a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a></a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a></a></a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a></a></a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank">LINK</a><br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">Quote:</div><hr>Larry: Why did Hardy Nickerson really resign as Bears linebackers coach?<br /><br />Paul K.<br />Dubuque, Iowa<br /><br />Paul: My understanding is that Hardy Nickerson resigned so he could help his family deal with medical issues involving both his mother and mother-in-law. I’m told that it was a very difficult decision for him because he enjoyed working for Lovie Smith, whom Nickerson has referred to as a mentor. The coaches and players I’ve spoken to enjoyed working with Hardy and wish him and his family the best of luck.<hr></blockquote>
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">calumnus;680520 said:</div><hr>"Family health issues" The Bears wanted him to stay: <a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""""" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""""</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""""</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""""</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""</a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""</a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""</a></a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265"""</a></a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="<a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a>""" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a>""</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a>"</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a>"</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a></a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a></a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a></a></a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://"http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=4265""</a></a></a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank">LINK</a><hr></blockquote><br /><br />Thank you. Hardy sounds pretty good to me!!
CarmelBear
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Nick holt
Scooterville Gau
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one of Teddy's hack Fresno buddies
buster99
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">Scooterville Gau;681852 said:</div><hr>one of Teddy's hack Fresno buddies<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Jim Jeffcoat, former Cowboy, is DL coach at SJSU
calfanz
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i am fine w/ that.
CMHBear
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Mike Singletary.<br /><br />I kid....
mechaniCAL
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Lets grab the 49ers DL coach... or someone from the SEC? Then hire ZF as a recruiter... also I think Boise State has had a pretty good DL considering the level of kids they get
82gradDLSdad
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Only one name comes to mind. Ken Delgado.<br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" /><br /><br />Tedford is a master when it comes to rehiring guys.
mechaniCAL
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">82gradDLSdad;681981 said:</div><hr>Only one name comes to mind. Ken Delgado.<br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" /><br /><br />Tedford is a master when it comes to rehiring guys.<hr></blockquote><br />I second that... big time!
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