Poaching and other Huskie sins

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socaltownie
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So does anyone know how frequently this "re-recruiting" of your commits by (former) assistants is? Payton just tweeted about UW in home tonight.
BoaltBear
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I would be interested in someone's assessment of Tosh's actions under NCAA rules.<br /><br />I really wish Tosh's contract had SOME kind of clause with a non-compete period. Would LOVE to slap UW with an injunction.
bearboy7
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">BoaltBear;681840 said:</div><hr>I would be interested in someone's assessment of Tosh's actions under NCAA rules.<br /><br />I really wish Tosh's contract had SOME kind of clause with a non-compete period. Would LOVE to slap UW with an injunction.<hr></blockquote><br />Except that non-compete agreements are generally illegal in California.
MrGPAC
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">KeithPrice;681838 said:</div><hr>waaaaaah. And it's Husky not Huskie.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />...seriously what are you doing here? Is your dick so small you have to revel in the misfortunes of others to boost up your own ego? Shouldn't you be off on the Washington message boards celebrating with your fellow fans?<br /><br />~MrGPAC
OldBlue1999
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">bearboy7;681847 said:</div><hr>Except that non-compete agreements are generally illegal in California.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />No they're not. They're just required to have limited scope in terms of duration and geographic reach. Like say 2-4 weeks and just California.<br /><br />Plus there's a difference between a noncompete, which says person X cannot enter into a particular type of business, and misappropriation of trade secrets, which customer lists / relationships fall under.<br /><br />It is absolutely legal in California to enjoin a former employee from actively soliciting your existing and already identified prospective customers.
PDXDuckFan
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Ethics are certainly one thing, but don't think for a second that all of this money, and then all of the immediate visits to Cal commits, isn't going to upset some very important boosters at Cal. I'm sure it will also show up on the NCAA's radar.<br /><br />Of course, UW fans will just tell you that Mark Emmert is the head of the NCAA, and because he was president at UW, it won't matter.
socaltownie
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I am just curious as to past history - for example is Bama's new OC making calls on current UW commits?
OldBlue1999
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I should clarify: <br />First, the customer list has to qualify as a trade secret. There are elements that have to be met that I don't have time to go into right now.<br />Second, here, as with other instances, obviously the <i>identity</i> of the "customers" is not secret, so anyone can contact them. It's the "inside information" Lupoi learned and developed on Cal's dime that he should be prohibited from using, which is obviously harder to prove.<br />But for Cal winning the infringement case wouldn't be the goal, it's just showing a probability of success to get the TRO.
PDXDuckFan
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">socaltownie;681897 said:</div><hr>I am just curious as to past history - for example is Bama's new OC making calls on current UW commits?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Why on Earth would 'Bama want any of UW's commits? <br /><br />Plus, 'Bama is already at 25, and is starting to break the greyshirt news to their lower recruits.
socaltownie
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">PDXDuckFan;681905 said:</div><hr>Why on Earth would 'Bama want any of UW's commits?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />LOL!!! That is funny. Of course it is pretty clear that UofW doesn't want them either
SnoozerBear
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">BoaltBear;681840 said:</div><hr>I would be interested in someone's assessment of Tosh's actions under NCAA rules.<br /><br />I really wish Tosh's contract had SOME kind of clause with a non-compete period. Would LOVE to slap UW with an injunction.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Give me a break, Cal got punked by UW in a power move, there is no one to blame except Cal for not supporting its assistants enough. The fact that another program was willing to offer To$h 3x the salary screams incompetence at Cal.<br /><br />Bottom line is we don't take football seriously, this catastrophe that is unfolding exemplifies just that.
PDXDuckFan
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">KeithPrice;681911 said:</div><hr>They certainly wouldn't want 2 Elite 11 QBs.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />"We're Back" :cheer
SnoozerBear
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">BoaltBear;681906 said:</div><hr>Not sure about the time frame point, but restricting the employee's ability to solicit former clients has been held to be an invalid non-compete clause: <br /><br />"The agreement restricted Edwards from performing work for Andersen's Los Angeles clients and therefore restricted his ability to practice his accounting profession. (See Thompson v. Impaxx, Inc. (2003) 113 Cal.App.4th 1425, 1429, 7 Cal.Rptr.3d 427 [distinguishing "trade route" and solicitation cases that protect trade secrets or confidential proprietary information].) The noncompetition agreement that Edwards was required to sign before commencing employment with Andersen was therefore invalid because it restrained his ability to practice his profession." Edwards v. Arthur Andersen LLP, 44 Cal. 4th 937, 948, 189 P.3d 285, 292 (2008).<br /><br />Your "soliciting customers" argument seems more like a tortious interference with a contractual relationship argument, but there's no contract between Cal and potential recruits yet, unfortunately. <br /><br />However, I like the trade secrets argument --- especially because there is actually a "list" being stolen here. <br /><br />I don't know the facts, but if what is being said is true, some of Tosh's actions taken while still employed by Cal may have breached his contract.<br /><br />All thin. I'd still like to know if this is all kosher under NCAA rules.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />:headbang great, another one of god's gift to the law profession flexing his legal knowledge.
berk18
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">KeithPrice;681911 said:</div><hr>They certainly wouldn't want 2 Elite 11 QBs.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />You say that so confidently. Cute. <br /><br />UW and UCLA have the two worst fanbases in the PAC-12. They're the only fans that come here to gloat after 7-6 seasons. At least UCLA had a good recruiting class when they showed up here. Cal sucks right now. Over the last two years, UW has sucked about 15 yards less. Congratulations. Go home.
mdcspe69
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UW does not have any current commits that Alabama would want. Alabama does not take 2 star football players.
CalGangOrDie
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I always thought that U$C fans were the absolute dirt of the the conference but this "KeithPrice" guy is giving me reasons to question that belief.
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