Blaming of Cal failing to ante up stops with this thread

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bencgilmore
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From an SEC fan:<br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">RJ9;14442637 said:</div><hr><a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="<a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff""""" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff""""</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff"""</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff"""</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff""</a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff""</a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff""</a></a>" 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target="_blank"><a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff</a></a><br</a>"</a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff</a></a><br</a>"</a></a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="<a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff</a></a><br</a></a>"" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff</a></a><br</a></a>"</a> class="postlink " target="_blank"><a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff</a></a><br</a></a></a>" class="postlink " target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/37272/vols-pluck-sunseri-from-tides-staff</a></a><br</a></a></a></a> /><br />Tennessee coach Derek Dooley has his new defensive coordinator, and he's a familiar face to both the SEC and Dooley. <br /><br />Sal Sunseri, the associate head coach and linebackers coach at Alabama for the past three seasons, has agreed to take the Vols' defensive coordinator's job. Tennessee is paying handsomely to get Sunseri, too. He'll receive a three-year deal worth $2.4 million. <br /><br />Sunseri and Dooley worked together on Nick Saban's staff at LSU in 2000. Before reuniting with Saban at Alabama, Sunseri was the defensive line coach with the Carolina Panthers for seven seasons. So he has experience as both a linebackers and defensive line coach and was also considered one of the top recruiters on the Crimson Tide's staff. ESPN named Sunseri one of the top 25 recruiters in the country in 2011, and 247Sports.com named Sunseri the nation's top recruiter. <br /><br />"Sal has had unparalleled success over the last decade in not only contributing to team and unit success, but also in his ability to motivate and develop elite individual talent," Dooley said. "His combination of defensive knowledge, recruiting success, high-energy personality, ability to connect with players and personal integrity and character make him an exceptional fit for Tennessee." <br /><br />The fact that Tennessee was willing to give Sunseri a three-year deal is telling on a couple of different fronts. First, it's a sure sign that Tennessee athletic director Dave Hart is willing to make the commitment and spend top dollar to surround Dooley with quality assistants. New running backs coach Jay Graham and offensive line coach Sam Pittman also received multiyear deals. <br /><br />Sunseri's $800,000 salary makes him the third highest-paid assistant in the SEC behind Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart and newly hired Auburn defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder, although several guys are in line to get raises.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Cliffs: Tennessee just hired a defensive coordinator - one of the country's 'other' top recruiters - for 800k, and he's the 3rd highest paid assistant of any kind in the SEC. LSU and Bama's DL coaches make around 400k each. 650k buys you nearly any DC in the country, let alone DL coach.<br /><br />UW is making an unprecedented bet on him.
MrGPAC
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Unfortunately, the real thing Cal had to offer that Washington doesn't is a future. We will never know what was truly offered to Tosh...but he should have been the DC in waiting *for sure*...with potential "if DC works out you are in for Head coach in training" coming afterwards.<br /><br />Those guys make the millions, and if promised for the future, was the best we could offer. Not sure if it was offered, but it should have been.<br /><br />~MrGPAC
Oski87
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I think everyone assumes that Clancy is going back to the NFL at some point. The issue for Tosh was, can i wait for that. It may have been two or three years. Cal, for the second straight year, was the best defense in the Pac 12. Tosh was part of that, but Clancy was the architect of that. Tosh is a good defensive line coach - but so are many. His value was the recruiting. He must have seen that even if he was going to get the DC job, the 500K that UW was offering was going to be more than that.
heartofthebear
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">Oski87;682416 said:</div><hr>I think everyone assumes that Clancy is going back to the NFL at some point. The issue for Tosh was, can i wait for that. It may have been two or three years. Cal, for the second straight year, was the best defense in the Pac 12. Tosh was part of that, but Clancy was the architect of that. Tosh is a good defensive line coach - but so are many. His value was the recruiting. He must have seen that even if he was going to get the DC job, the 500K that UW was offering was going to be more than that.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I wouldn't be surprised to see Clancy go to the Raiders next year. And it wound't bother me either.
alarsuel
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Why does everyone assume CP has NFL jobs lined up? He was fired from his last job, unceremoniously, after the super bowl. Obviously the Cards didn't think he was instrumental to their NFC championship team.
GivemTheAxe
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<blockquote><div class="name-said">Oski87;682416 said:</div><hr>I think everyone assumes that Clancy is going back to the NFL at some point. The issue for Tosh was, can i wait for that. It may have been two or three years. Cal, for the second straight year, was the best defense in the Pac 12. Tosh was part of that, but Clancy was the architect of that. Tosh is a good defensive line coach - but so are many. His value was the recruiting. He must have seen that even if he was going to get the DC job, the 500K that UW was offering was going to be more than that.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Sooooo...are you saying Tosh was smart not to wait since it was less money at present; or that he should have waited even though it was less money at present.<br /><br />I can see it being a smart move to stay at Cal (i) Cal was offering to match UW's earlier $300K annual salary which was double what he had been making; (ii) he was in line for the DC job when CP moved on in a year or two other even better opportunities turned up; (iii) he would keep his integrity and credibility.<br /><br />Now he has made a deal with the devil - and you know how much you can trust the devil.
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Sark has two (maybe three) years to get to a Rose Bowl minimum. When that doesn't happen (since Oregon plays in their division and show no signs of falling off) he, Tosh, and Kiesau will be back in the market. Expect to see Tosh as the d-line coordinator at a second tier SEC school.<br /><br />I look forward to hearing stories of his pitch about his passion for Mississippi State and how they are all a family there.
SchadenBear
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Welcome to Alabama Tosh. <br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" /><br />Do you mind if we borrow your boat?
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