USC poster getting it right re: To$h

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12:41a, 1/19/12

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In reply to edwinbear • 12:51a, 1/19/12

What's the story with getting the previous dline coach fired?

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In reply to freshfunk • 12:53a, 1/19/12

some of it is true, some of it is not, and some of it I have no idea on. whatever free kobe has to say, take it with a grain of salt. when the rumors of SC getting sanctions were floating, Free Kobe was adamant in his belief nothing would happen to SC. we all know how that turned out.

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In reply to ShajMaster12 • 12:55a, 1/19/12

The only thing he says that I hope is true is that Lupoi reads these boards. The rest could go either way, I really don't care.

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In reply to edwinbear • 12:56a, 1/19/12

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In reply to ShajMaster12 • 12:56a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">ShajMaster12;684870 said:</div><hr>some of it is true, some of it is not, and some of it I have no idea on. whatever free kobe has to say, take it with a grain of salt. when the rumors of SC getting sanctions were floating, Free Kobe was adamant in his belief nothing would happen to SC. we all know how that turned out.<hr></blockquote> Yeah, some statements don't seem to gel. If Arik looks up to his brother so much as to aspire to be a great DL guy like him why would he would his first choice still be USC given what happened to his brother?

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In reply to edwinbear • 12:56a, 1/19/12

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In reply to freshfunk • 1:02a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">freshfunk;684869 said:</div><hr>What's the story with getting the previous dline coach fired?<hr></blockquote> Who knows? Everyone was making fun of Ken Delgado's swim technique. I personally thought it was a function of Gregory's overall philosophy, that linemen were taught to engage the o-line, not attack, and let the linebackers do the up field rushing and make plays. I guess this was effective with run D because this often clogs up the line. But lack of sacks was a hallmark. Ken was the d-line coach at SDSU when he had KGB so I tend to think it was Gregory.

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In reply to Papitobear • 4:15a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Papitobear;684874 said:</div><hr>[INDENT]7. This same guy sent me an email three years ago saying that one day tosh Lupoi will stab Cal in the back and tear down the program. Pretty good prediction I would say. He says Tosh is an ego maniac of epic proportions and stands out still in an industry of ego maniacs. 8. Tosh actually backstabbed and got fired the previous dline coach who fought so hard for Lupoi to be brought on as a grad assistant. 9. UW played to tosh's huge ego about how he is underappreciated and was only making 165k and he bit hook line and sinker. 10. tosh will read anything on these boards that is written about him. Loves to see his name anywhere. Wow! Trash Lupus was a snake in the grass the whole time. The ego-maniac thing makes complete sense of how everything went down. Injured but obsessed with ego--Richard II all over again: now the tragedy is about to ensue: for him.

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In reply to Papitobear • 4:16a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Papitobear;684874 said:</div><hr> There's no question Mister Xbox360 Lupaid is reading all the vitriol being spewed about him......The relationships he's tarnished, the community who will now turn face on him...and all the relentless bad commentary competing recruiters will tell future prospects about this selfish guy for years and years to come. Lupaid's recruiting mojo will be permanently tarnished.<hr></blockquote> "Listen bitches. Tosh boy here is up in the house. I don't care what you mother fuckers think. Ya wanna know why? Because I am on a Boat. I am on a boat on Lake Washington. Right now! Whoop boys. And it's snowing. And its cold. I'm on a Boat. Yeah. Where you at?"

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7:24a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;684936 said:</div><hr>all this yet tedford wanted to double his salary?<hr></blockquote>all this yet you wonder why people bag on you all the time here? maybe you don't wonder, maybe you like it.

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7:37a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;684956 said:</div><hr>It's a resonable question. If Tosh is a slimeball and has been for a while and people here are arguing Tedford has 100% integrity. Than why did he offer to double his salary?<hr></blockquote>First, I don't think everything in that article is true. Second, my belief (I do not have evidence for this) based on the events that have transpired is that the Injurygate incident was not the only thing that Tosh and Tedford clashed over. Imagine Tosh trying to pull some of the same shady tactics he is employing right now... negative recruiting, whatever... and Tedford ripping him for it and told him to cut it out. Tedford would be furious about something like that... remember Steve Levy and the mask-grabbing after the TD against A&M? Tedford thinks the problem is handled, Tosh is quietly seething, angry about being hammered for something he feels everyone does and you have to do to succeed. Fast forward to today, and BOOM. Based on what we NOW know about Tosh, and what we already knew about Tedford, I think this holds together pretty well. Speculative, though.

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In reply to edwinbear • 7:42a, 1/19/12

Nothing unusual there. For the most part, you don't become one of the premier recruiters in the entire nation without having supreme confidence, arrogance, attitude, etc and is not afraid to stab people in the back. We just haven't heard much about Lupoi's bad side because he hasn't jumped around from job to job like other premier coaches...until now. Saban, Meyer, Orgeron, Kiffin, on-and-on-and-on.... All of these big-time recruiters/coaches have burned many bridges and have huge number of haters.... With positives outweighing negatives, Tedford obviously wanted to keep Lupoi, but there was no way he was going to allow playing salary-tags with open-pocket UW. $300k offer was already making Lupoi the highest paid assistant, and Tedford probably didn't want to completely alienate his other assistants by continuing to match UW's escalating offers, so he told Lupoi to stop going back-and-forth after the first match. But obviously Lupoi didn't. UW more than doubled their initial offer ($550k + boat + house + car + additional incentives for flipping Cal commits) and Lupoi ran away.

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8:07a, 1/19/12

dupdadee is right. Sadly, in this world being dirty gets you ahead. Happens in sports and happens in business too. Just open your eyes and see what happens in the real world. As long as you stay within legal bounds you're good. The reason why JT was willing to pay To$h is that despite everything he was really good at his job. I think DO could've answered that for himself. Let's face it: The guy was/is an awesome recruiter. There will be many instances where situations aren't black/white but shades of gray and this is why we kept him. Plus, he's young so you would assume he would make mistakes, particularly ones of ambition. The mistake that we all made was that we thought To$h was different. He had our complete trust. We thought he was a true Son of California and that he bled blue and gold. Now we know he's just another scumbag amongst many scumbags in college football.

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In reply to freshfunk • 8:15a, 1/19/12

After all what sounds better? "He was just another coach. Happens all the time. We'll get a new one." OR "Oh sh*t we're f*cked. He was the most awesome coach ever and our recruiting will be half of what it was before." Anyway, one coach does not a program make. To$h will still recruit well but not as well as he did here.

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In reply to freshfunk • 8:17a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">freshfunk;684994 said:</div><hr>The mistake that we all made was that we thought To$h was different. He had our complete trust. We thought he was a true Son of California and that he bled blue and gold. Now we know he's just another scumbag amongst many scumbags in college football.<hr></blockquote> In these trying times, your optimism is refreshing. Thanks.

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In reply to Papitobear • 8:19a, 1/19/12

To$h is too busy right now trying to steal our recruits to read this board. <blockquote><div class="name-said">Papitobear;684874 said:</div><hr>[INDENT]7. This same guy sent me an email three years ago saying that one day tosh Lupoi will stab Cal in the back and tear down the program. Pretty good prediction I would say. He says Tosh is an ego maniac of epic proportions and stands out still in an industry of ego maniacs. 8. Tosh actually backstabbed and got fired the previous dline coach who fought so hard for Lupoi to be brought on as a grad assistant. 9. UW played to tosh's huge ego about how he is underappreciated and was only making 165k and he bit hook line and sinker. 10. tosh will read anything on these boards that is written about him. Loves to see his name anywhere. [/INDENT]It's very easy to profile Lupaid without needing to read these comments. There's no question Mister Xbox360 Lupaid is reading all the vitriol being spewed about him......The relationships he's tarnished, the community who will now turn face on him...and all the relentless bad commentary competing recruiters will tell future prospects about this selfish guy for years and years to come. Lupaid's recruiting mojo will be permanently tarnished.<hr></blockquote>

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In reply to edwinbear • 8:33a, 1/19/12

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In reply to 9thCircuitBear • 10:23a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">9thCircuitBear;684892 said:</div><hr>It's a damn shame when we're relying on a trojan to explain what happened. But then, who better to explain an egomaniac?<hr></blockquote> Even more funny when you consider who SC has as its HC. But just because he's a hypocrite doesn't mean he isn't right on the money.

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10:31a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;684956 said:</div><hr>It's a resonable question. If Tosh is a slimeball and has been for a while and people here are arguing Tedford has 100% integrity. Than why did he offer to double his salary?<hr></blockquote> to lock down shaq and that DL class probably

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In reply to LocoOso • 10:42a, 1/19/12

<blockquote><div class="name-said">LocoOso;685041 said:</div><hr>Why is it that every "inside info" post on the USC boards always includes "fill in the blank player really wants to go to USC" Watch, then the kid ends up at Cal or Notre Dame, they'll come back with their usual "he doesn't want to compete"<hr></blockquote> Nah...that's not the argument they are using with Arik (or Armond for that matter). Both of them bleed Red and Gold and want nothing more than to be Trojans. Its their evil father who will have none of it. He's preventing both of them from living out their dreams and competing for a spot at USC! ~MrGPAC